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       #Post#: 3407--------------------------------------------------
       Left Behind
   DIR By: Olde Tymer
       Date: January 25, 2019, 5:31 am
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       .
       I recently viewed a 2014 movie on NetFlix starring Nicolas Cage
       titled "Left Behind". There was a glaring omission: nobody came
       back from the dead for the rapture; only living people were
       taken out.
       Something else overlooked by the movie's producers is the
       category of folk who are supposed to be taken. According to
       1Thess 4:13-17, they are "in him" and "in Christ"; viz: the
       rapture is exclusive; Christ is coming back for his church and
       no others.
       Well; in order to get in Jesus' church, one must first believe
       the gospel. Then they have to be sealed in him by the Holy
       Spirit (Eph 1:13). Therefore; non believing, non sealed children
       won't be taken in the real rapture. The movie's rapture took all
       the children.
       _
       #Post#: 3417--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Left Behind
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: January 25, 2019, 9:31 am
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       --- Quote from: Olde Tymer link ---
       >
       > .
       > I recently viewed a 2014 movie on NetFlix starring Nicolas
       Cage titled "Left Behind". There was a glaring omission: nobody
       came back from the dead for the rapture; only living people were
       taken out.
       >
       > Something else overlooked by the movie's producers is the
       category of folk who are supposed to be taken. According to
       1Thess 4:13-17, they are "in him" and "in Christ"; viz: the
       rapture is exclusive; Christ is coming back for his church and
       no others.
       >
       > Well; in order to get in Jesus' church, one must first believe
       the gospel. Then they have to be sealed in him by the Holy
       Spirit (Eph 1:13). Therefore; non believing, non sealed children
       won't be taken in the real rapture. The movie's rapture took all
       the children.
       > _
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]I agree except where the children are
       concerned. Jesus tells us those who believe in him will see him
       through a child's eyes. Also there is a knowing age where the
       child becomes responsible for his/her actions. (i.e. 12-13-
       Jewish ceremonies,'bar mitzvah')
       There were other discrepancies that I don' agree with but it was
       a good start.  As far as the dead rising, do you envision the
       graves exploding into the air and the dead rising slowly enough
       for people to see them those bodies as they ascend to heaven?
       Rem a twinkle of the eye is around 10 to the minus 43 power
       Have a great day sir.
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 3421--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Left Behind
   DIR By: Olde Tymer
       Date: January 25, 2019, 10:53 am
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       .
       It's sometimes objected that a truly loving, sensitive,
       kind-hearted god would never leave children behind to go thru
       the calamitous events depicted in the book of Revelation.
       How many children were spared the Flood?
       How many children were spared Sodom and Gomorrah?
       How many children would've been collateral damage had not the
       adults in Nineveh heeded Jonah's preaching?
       Being left out of the rapture may be a death sentence for some
       but it isn't a sentence to hell; I mean, after all, according to
       Rev 7:9-17, a very large number of people will be saved during
       the calamities; which includes a world-wide earthquake so severe
       on the Richter scale that every city on Earth will collapse at
       once; no doubt resulting in an unimaginable body count.
       Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the World Trade
       Center was demolished by a terrorist attack in 2001. Well that
       was only a small portion of New York City. Just imagine the
       carnage when all of Manhattan comes down at once. along with
       other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Mexico City,
       Paris, Moscow, Beijing, and Tokyo, et al.
       FYI: The rapture and the second coming of Christ are two
       separate events. The one precedes the other by seven years. Only
       his church will see Christ at the rapture. The whole world will
       see him at the second coming.
       _
       #Post#: 3431--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Left Behind
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: January 25, 2019, 8:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Olde Tymer link ---
       >
       > .
       > It's sometimes objected that a truly loving, sensitive,
       kind-hearted god would never leave children behind to go thru
       the calamitous events depicted in the book of Revelation.
       >
       > How many children were spared the Flood?
       >
       > How many children were spared Sodom and Gomorrah?
       >
       > How many children would've been collateral damage had not the
       adults in Nineveh heeded Jonah's preaching?
       >
       > Being left out of the rapture may be a death sentence for some
       but it isn't a sentence to hell; I mean, after all, according to
       Rev 7:9-17, a very large number of people will be saved during
       the calamities; which includes a world-wide earthquake so severe
       on the Richter scale that every city on Earth will collapse at
       once; no doubt resulting in an unimaginable body count.[/QUOTE]
       >
       > [shadow=blue,left]You said :"Being left out of the rapture may
       be a death sentence for some but it isn't a sentence to hell"
       >
       > Are you going to tell the reader how they WILL NOT GO TO HELL
       during this time? The 144,000 will be ministering to the earth.
       Those that come to believe in Jesus will be  martyred, the
       rest,,, well Hell awaits.[/shadow]
       >
       > [quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=314.msg3421#msg3421
       date=1548435193]Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the
       World Trade Center was demolished by a terrorist attack in 2001.
       Well that was only a small portion of New York City. Just
       imagine the carnage when all of Manhattan comes down at once.
       along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco,
       Mexico City, Paris, Moscow, Beijing, and Tokyo, et al.
       >
       > FYI: The rapture and the second coming of Christ are two
       separate events. The one precedes the other by seven years. No
       one but his own will see Christ at the rapture. The whole world
       will see him at the second coming.
       >
       > _
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]I have my doubts about it being just seven
       years for the anti-christ will have to come to power before he
       can sign a covenant with many.
       This suggest a gap period  of very possibly up to 33 years prior
       to Daniel's 70th week.
       Hey, Olde TImer, how are you doing, OK I hope?
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 3434--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Left Behind
   DIR By: Olde Tymer
       Date: January 25, 2019, 10:11 pm
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       .
       My contributions to this thread may be taken as a public service
       announcement.
       I close my remarks with lines from the movie spoken a few hours
       after the rapture that go something like this:
       Journalist: It looks like the end of the world.
       Chloe Steele: No, not yet. I'm afraid this is just the
       beginning.
       _
       #Post#: 3436--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Left Behind
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: January 25, 2019, 10:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Olde Tymer link ---
       >
       > .
       > My contributions to this thread may be taken as a public
       service announcement.
       >
       > I close my remarks with lines from the movie spoken a few
       hours after the rapture that go something like this:
       >
       > Journalist: It looks like the end of the world.
       >
       > Chloe Steele: No, not yet. I'm afraid this is just the
       beginning.
       > _
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]Yes it probably is a public service
       announcement but are the Journalist at CNN..... leaving out
       parts of the truth for what?
       Just tell the whole story according to scripture.
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 15826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Left Behind
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: August 4, 2020, 1:31 pm
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       yep
       #Post#: 17793--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Left Behind
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: September 21, 2020, 3:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > yep
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       left in front
       #Post#: 18697--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Left Behind
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: October 11, 2020, 10:08 am
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=314.msg15826#msg15826
       date=1596565910]
       > yep
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       left in front
       [/quote]on the side
       #Post#: 18850--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Left Behind
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: October 14, 2020, 3:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=314.msg17793#msg17793
       date=1600721319]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=314.msg15826#msg15826
       date=1596565910]
       > yep
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       left in front
       [/quote]on the side
       [/quote]left on top
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