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Re: Christ's Ways
By: Olde Tymer Date: January 30, 2019, 8:34 pm
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[font=arial]Rom 12:8a . . If your gift is to encourage others,
then do so.
You know who really benefits from encouragement in a big way?
Little kids. Thoughtless grown-ups can break a growing child's
fragile spirit by criticizing them all the time and never once
giving them an "atta boy" or a single vote of confidence.
A fitting word spoken at just the right moment can really beef
up somebody's resolve to meet life head on. If you're good at
that sort of thing, then watch for opportunities among your
fellow Christians to do so. It has to be honest though because
flattery is all the same as treachery.
"Whoever flatters his neighbor is spreading a net for his feet."
(Prov 29:5)
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Re: Christ's Ways
By: Olde Tymer Date: January 31, 2019, 5:06 pm
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[font=arial]Rom 12:8b . . If you have money, share it
generously.
Generously is quite the opposite of sparingly.
Jesus once compared a widow's contributions to those of the
wealthy. The small amount she gave counted more than the larger
amounts contributed by the wealthy because her donation pretty
much cleaned her out; while the wealthy's contributions scarcely
made a dent in their prosperity. (Mark 12:41-44)
I don't think Rom 12:8b is commanding Christ's followers to ruin
themselves, rather, to avoid being miserly.
“Christmas is a poor excuse every 25th of December to pick a
man's pockets.”
Scrooge
From: A Christmas Carol
by Charles Dickens
Ol' Scrooge is known the world over as the king of tightwads.
He's an extreme example, to be sure; most people aren't that
grasping, but I think quite a few are maybe a bit too frugal.
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Re: Christ's Ways
By: Olde Tymer Date: February 1, 2019, 10:07 pm
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[font=arial]Rom 12:8c . . If God has given you leadership
ability, take the responsibility seriously.
A natural aptitude for church management doesn't count. It has
to be God-given; that is: a legitimate Spirit-endowed ability.
(cf. Rom 12:3-8, 1Cor 12:4-11, 1Cor 12:27-30)
There are far too many people sitting on church boards merely
because they're a success in business. Well; if your church is a
commercial enterprise; then maybe you should think about finding
another one.
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Re: Christ's Ways
By: Olde Tymer Date: February 2, 2019, 9:10 pm
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[font=arial]Rom 12:8d . . If you have a gift for showing
kindness to others, do it gladly.
That would probably correspond to incidents like the one
depicted in the parable of the man attacked by road agents in
Luke 10:30-36. In that instance, a passerby had the skills and
the wherewithal to provide care for a total stranger in need.
Personally, I'm not much at first aid and/or emergency medical
services. But what we're getting at here is that should you find
yourself in circumstances where you can be of genuine, effective
assistance; don't lend a hand grudging. It ought to make
Christians happy to be of assistance instead of getting
irritated and grumpy about an unexpected inconvenience.
A solo Pacific Crest Trail hiker named Cheryl Strayed, in her
book [I]WILD[/I], recounts an evening wherein she was very low
on funds and having no luck locating a suitable place in the
woods to set up her tent before it got really dark. Cheryl found
her way into a fee campground and set up at the extreme end of
the facility where she thought no one would mind; but later that
night the caretakers came by and, in a not-so-friendly tone,
insisted that she either pay the $12 fee or break camp and
leave.
The "Christian" thing to do would have been to pay the fee for
her instead of forcing a woman to wander out into the pitch
black forest all alone at night.
NOTE: The law is the law and rules are rules, that's true but
according to Jesus' teachings; there are instances when human
need-- e.g. health, safety, and welfare --come first. His
hard-hearted, strictly by-the-book religious opponents just
couldn't get that through their thick skulls. (cf. Ex 1:15-21)
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Re: Christ's Ways
By: Olde Tymer Date: February 3, 2019, 8:55 pm
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[font=arial]Rom 12:9a . . Don't just pretend that you love
others.
Webster's defines "pretense" as fiction, make-believe, and/or
simulation. Ironically, pretense is foundational to ordinary
civility and common courtesy. But when it comes to love;
Christians should never put on a front. In other words: don't
lead someone on to believe you care about them when in reality
you don't. That's not only dishonest; it's cruel.
I once asked a rather incompetent Sunday school teacher, in so
many words, whether feelings play a role in Christianity. He
said that feelings are emotions and therefore insignificant.
Well; I have to disagree.
"Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels
of mercies" (Col 3:12)
The koiné Greek word for "bowels" in that passage is splagchnon
(splangkh'-non) which basically refers to one's intestines; i.e.
the tummy; which says to me that bowels of mercies are emotions
rather than just good manners.
In other words: real love isn't a non emotional academic
concept; it contains things like pity, sympathy, empathy,
compassion, thoughtfulness, and sensitivity. Real love is easily
mimicked, but not all that easy to feel; especially by people
who, by nature, are more monster than human.
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Re: Christ's Ways
By: guest8 Date: February 4, 2019, 12:18 am
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=306.msg3669#msg3669
date=1549248909]
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[font=arial]Rom 12:9a . . Don't just pretend that you love
others.
Webster's defines "pretense" as fiction, make-believe, and/or
simulation. Ironically, pretense is foundational to ordinary
civility and common courtesy. But when it comes to love;
Christians should never put on a front. In other words: don't
lead someone on to believe you care about them when in reality
you don't. That's not only dishonest; it's cruel.
I once asked a rather incompetent Sunday school teacher, in so
many words, whether feelings play a role in Christianity. He
said that feelings are emotions and therefore insignificant.
Well; I have to disagree.
"Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels
of mercies" (Col 3:12)
The koiné Greek word for "bowels" in that passage is splagchnon
(splangkh'-non) which basically refers to one's intestines; i.e.
the tummy; which says to me that bowels of mercies are emotions
rather than just good manners.
In other words: real love isn't a non emotional academic
concept; it contains things like pity, sympathy, empathy,
compassion, thoughtfulness, and sensitivity. Real love is easily
mimicked, but not all that easy to feel; especially by people
who, by nature, are more monster than human.
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[shadow=blue,left]Hi Old Timer...You finally put an OPED out
that I can agree with.
Blade[/shadow]
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Re: Christ's Ways
By: Olde Tymer Date: February 4, 2019, 8:28 pm
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[font=arial]Rom 12:9b . . Hate what is evil.
Hating evil is second nature to God-fearing people; or at least
it should be.
"You who love The Lord; hate evil." (Ps 97:10)
"In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This
man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil."
(Job 1:1)
"The fear of The Lord is to hate evil. Pride and arrogance and
the evil way, and the perverted mouth, I hate." (Prov 8:13)
I think it's fair to say that when somebody hates the same
things that God hates, and loves the same things that God loves;
the two of them have the makings of a rapport: defined by
Webster's as a friendly, harmonious relationship-- especially a
relationship characterized by agreement, mutual understanding,
or empathy that makes communication possible or easy.
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Re: Christ's Ways
By: guest8 Date: February 5, 2019, 10:53 am
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=306.msg3683#msg3683
date=1549333680]
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[font=arial]Rom 12:9b . . Hate what is evil.
Hating evil is second nature to God-fearing people; or at least
it should be.
"You who love The Lord; hate evil." (Ps 97:10)
"In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This
man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil."
(Job 1:1)
"The fear of The Lord is to hate evil. Pride and arrogance and
the evil way, and the perverted mouth, I hate." (Prov 8:13)
I think it's fair to say that when somebody hates the same
things that God hates, and loves the same things that God loves;
the two of them have the makings of a rapport: defined by
Webster's as a friendly, harmonious relationship-- especially a
relationship characterized by agreement, mutual understanding,
or empathy that makes communication possible or easy.
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I believe I would call it something else beside a harmonious
relationship.
LOVE
Blade
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Re: Christ's Ways
By: Olde Tymer Date: February 5, 2019, 9:39 pm
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[font=arial]Rom 12:9c . . Cling to what is good.
The Greek word translated "good" is agathos (ag-ath-os') which
refers to good in just about every sense imaginable, e.g.
beneficial, fitting, suitable, acceptable, adequate, all right,
alright, creditable, decent, fine, useful, commendable, nice, OK
(or okay), passable, respectable, satisfactory, serviceable,
sufficient, well-- everything from doing good, tasting good,
looking good, to sounding good, etc.
Christian CEOs on the boards of multi-national corporations have
my sympathy. Good luck complying with Rom 12:9c.
I recently watched a very interesting documentary on NetFlix
that analyzed corporations; and they found that corporations, as
a personality, typically exhibit all five of the psychopathic
behaviors listed below.
• Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.
• Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships.
• Reckless disregard for the safety of others.
• Deceit and dissembling; viz: repeated lying, suppressing
information, stretching the truth, and conning others for
profit.
• Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful
behaviors.
One of corporate America's more shameful management practices is
the exploitation of foreign poverty, cheap labor, defenseless
employees, minimal safety requirements, and hardly any
environmental regulations in order to keep costs down and the
bottom lines of quarterly reports up. It's all about profits
with corporations; while the human suffering exploited to obtain
them is collateral damage, so to speak; and nowhere has that
been more prevalent than the manufacture of textiles and
garments.
One of corporate America's more shameful management practices is
the exploitation of foreign poverty, cheap labor, defenseless
employees, minimal safety requirements, and hardly any
environmental regulations in order to keep costs down and the
bottom lines of quarterly reports up. It's all about profits
with corporations; and nowhere has that been more prevalent than
the manufacture of textiles and garments.
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Re: Christ's Ways
By: guest8 Date: February 5, 2019, 10:41 pm
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=306.msg3704#msg3704
date=1549424371]
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[font=arial]Rom 12:9c . . Cling to what is good.
The Greek word translated "good" is agathos (ag-ath-os') which
refers to good in just about every sense imaginable, e.g.
beneficial, fitting, suitable, acceptable, adequate, all right,
alright, creditable, decent, fine, useful, commendable, nice, OK
(or okay), passable, respectable, satisfactory, serviceable,
sufficient, well-- everything from doing good, tasting good,
looking good, to sounding good, etc.
Christian CEOs on the boards of multi-national corporations have
my sympathy. Good luck complying with Rom 12:9c.
I recently watched a very interesting documentary on NetFlix
that analyzed corporations; and they found that corporations, as
a personality, typically exhibit all five of the psychopathic
behaviors listed below.
• Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.
• Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships.
• Reckless disregard for the safety of others.
• Deceit and dissembling; viz: repeated lying, suppressing
information, stretching the truth, and conning others for
profit.
• Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful
behaviors.
One of corporate America's more shameful management practices is
the exploitation of foreign poverty, cheap labor, defenseless
employees, minimal safety requirements, and hardly any
environmental regulations in order to keep costs down and the
bottom lines of quarterly reports up. It's all about profits
with corporations; while the human suffering exploited to obtain
them is collateral damage, so to speak; and nowhere has that
been more prevalent than the manufacture of textiles and
garments.
One of corporate America's more shameful management practices is
the exploitation of foreign poverty, cheap labor, defenseless
employees, minimal safety requirements, and hardly any
environmental regulations in order to keep costs down and the
bottom lines of quarterly reports up. It's all about profits
with corporations; and nowhere has that been more prevalent than
the manufacture of textiles and garments.
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[shadow=blue,left]God will not judge nor will He give salvation
to the Corporations. This is part of the problem with churches
today. The building as a whole is held responsible for
everything instead of the individuals inside.
Blade[/shadow]
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