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#Post#: 2932--------------------------------------------------
The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: Olde Tymer
Date: December 24, 2018, 6:31 am
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● Luke 2:1-12a . . Now it came about in those days that a
decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken of
all the inhabited earth. This was the first census taken while
Quirinius was governor of Syria. And all were proceeding to
register for the census, everyone to his own city.
. . . And Joseph also went up from Galilee, from the city of
Nazareth, to Judea, to the city of David, which is called
Bethlehem, because he was of the house and family of David, in
order to register, along with Mary, who was engaged to him, and
was with child.
. . . And it came about that while they were there, the days
were completed for her to give birth. And she gave birth to her
first-born son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a
manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.
● Luke 2:1-12b. . . And in the same region there were some
shepherds staying out in the fields, and keeping watch over
their flock by night. And an angel of the Lord suddenly stood
before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them; and
they were terribly frightened.
. . . And the angel said to them: Do not be afraid; for behold,
I bring you good news of a great joy which shall be for all the
people; for today in the city of David there has been born for
you a savior, who is Christ the Lord. And this will be a sign
for you: you will find the babe wrapped in cloths, and lying in
a manger.
The koiné Greek word for "savior' is soter (so-tare') which
means a rescuer. Most everybody has seen rescuers in action at
one time or another, e.g. Fireman, Cops, Emergency Medical
teams, snow patrols, mountain rescue units, and the Coast Guard.
Rescuers typically help people to safety who are in grave danger
and/or distress and completely helpless to do anything about it.
Just how useful would the savior of Luke 2:8-12 really be if he
couldn't guarantee a fail-safe, sin proof, commandment proof,
human-error proof, God proof rescue from the wrath of God and
full time protection from retribution? He'd be no savior at all;
he'd be more like a coach or a manager than a rescuer.
But if instead, the savior announced by the angel guarantees
anybody who wants it, a completely free of charge, no strings
attached, fail-safe, sin proof, commandment proof, human-error
proof, God proof rescue from the wrath of God, and full-time
protection from retribution; wouldn't he qualify as good news of
great joy? I think everyone would have to agree with me that a
savior like that would not only most certainly be good news; but
also cause for celebration.
_
#Post#: 2939--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: December 24, 2018, 11:23 am
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--- Quote from: Olde Tymer link ---
>
> .
> ● Luke 2:1-12a . . Now it came about in those days that
a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken
of all the inhabited earth. This was the first census taken
while Quirinius was governor of Syria. And all were proceeding
to register for the census, everyone to his own city.
>
> . . . And Joseph also went up from Galilee, from the city of
Nazareth, to Judea, to the city of David, which is called
Bethlehem, because he was of the house and family of David, in
order to register, along with Mary, who was engaged to him, and
was with child.
>
> . . . And it came about that while they were there, the days
were completed for her to give birth. And she gave birth to her
first-born son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a
manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.
>
> ● Luke 2:1-12b. . . And in the same region there were
some shepherds staying out in the fields, and keeping watch over
their flock by night. And an angel of the Lord suddenly stood
before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them; and
they were terribly frightened.
>
> . . . And the angel said to them: Do not be afraid; for
behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which shall be for
all the people; for today in the city of David there has been
born for you a savior, who is Christ the Lord. And this will be
a sign for you: you will find the babe wrapped in cloths, and
lying in a manger.
>
> The koiné Greek word for "savior' is soter (so-tare') which
means a rescuer. Most everybody has seen rescuers in action at
one time or another, e.g. Fireman, Cops, Emergency Medical
teams, snow patrols, mountain rescue units, and the Coast Guard.
Rescuers typically help people to safety who are in grave danger
and/or distress and completely helpless to do anything about it.
>
> Just how useful would the savior of Luke 2:8-12 really be if
he couldn't guarantee a fail-safe, sin proof, commandment proof,
human-error proof, God proof rescue from the wrath of God and
full time protection from retribution? He'd be no savior at all;
he'd be more like a coach or a manager than a rescuer.
>
> But if instead, the savior announced by the angel guarantees
anybody who wants it, a completely free of charge, no strings
attached, fail-safe, sin proof, commandment proof, human-error
proof, God proof rescue from the wrath of God, and full-time
protection from retribution; wouldn't he qualify as good news of
great joy? I think everyone would have to agree with me that a
savior like that would not only most certainly be good news; but
also cause for celebration.
> _
>
--- End Quote ---
Amen brother, great post !!! Merry Christmas Olde Tymer
#Post#: 2951--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: Olde Tymer
Date: December 25, 2018, 12:40 pm
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.
● Luke 2:25-31 . . Now there was a man in Jerusalem called
Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the
consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. It had
been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die
before he had seen the Lord's Christ. Moved by the Spirit, he
went into the temple courts.
. . .When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him
what the custom of the Law required, Simeon took him in his arms
and praised God, saying: Sovereign Lord, as you have promised;
dismiss now your servant in peace, for my eyes have seen your
salvation, which you have prepared in the sight of all people.
The Greek word for "salvation" in Simeon's prayer is soterion
(so-tay'-ree-on) which basically means defender. In this case,
it's no doubt speaking of a public defender; viz: a
court-appointed attorney.
God could charge for Jesus' service, but in His kindness, any
fee He might have charged is waived; and everyone, regardless of
their income level and/or social status, qualifies for
assistance.
● John 6:37-38 . . All that the Father gives me will come
to me, and whoever comes to me I will certainly not refuse.
"Whoever" is a pretty big word. It leaves nobody out in the cold
with nowhere else to turn.
Q: Defends against what?
A: Rev 20:11-15 depicts a courtroom scene to which people will
be subpoenaed to appear and answer charges against them.
Q: So? What can Jesus do for me; make sure I get a fair trial
before being thrown alive and screaming into the lake of fire
depicted in that scene?
A: Should you enlist Jesus for legal aid, he knows how to get
any and all charges against you dropped; so that on the books,
it will appear as if you've always been nothing less than 100%
innocent. In other words: Jesus knows a perfectly legitimate way
to get his clients acquitted regardless of the severity of their
sins against God.
_
#Post#: 4140--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 25, 2019, 7:36 pm
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--- Quote from: Olde Tymer link ---
>
> .
> ● Luke 2:25-31 . . Now there was a man in Jerusalem
called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for
the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. It
had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not
die before he had seen the Lord's Christ. Moved by the Spirit,
he went into the temple courts.
>
> . . .When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him
what the custom of the Law required, Simeon took him in his arms
and praised God, saying: Sovereign Lord, as you have promised;
dismiss now your servant in peace, for my eyes have seen your
salvation, which you have prepared in the sight of all people.
>
> The Greek word for "salvation" in Simeon's prayer is soterion
(so-tay'-ree-on) which basically means defender. In this case,
it's no doubt speaking of a public defender; viz: a
court-appointed attorney.
>
> God could charge for Jesus' service, but in His kindness, any
fee He might have charged is waived; and everyone, regardless of
their income level and/or social status, qualifies for
assistance.
>
> ● John 6:37-38 . . All that the Father gives me will
come to me, and whoever comes to me I will certainly not refuse.
>
> "Whoever" is a pretty big word. It leaves nobody out in the
cold with nowhere else to turn.
>
> Q: Defends against what?
>
> A: Rev 20:11-15 depicts a courtroom scene to which people will
be subpoenaed to appear and answer charges against them.
>
> Q: So? What can Jesus do for me; make sure I get a fair trial
before being thrown alive and screaming into the lake of fire
depicted in that scene?
>
> A: Should you enlist Jesus for legal aid, he knows how to get
any and all charges against you dropped; so that on the books,
it will appear as if you've always been nothing less than 100%
innocent. In other words: Jesus knows a perfectly legitimate way
to get his clients acquitted regardless of the severity of their
sins against God.
> _
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]Olde Tymer...you said:"What can Jesus do for
me; make sure I get a fair trial before being thrown alive and
screaming into the lake of fire depicted in that scene?"
Unless you are talking to those souls that reside in HELL, I am
not sure who you are talking to??? Those who believed in Jesus
and were part of His Church (Body/Bride) of Christ, have been in
heaven for over 1000 years by the time of the White Throne
Judgement. They have already been judged and will receive no
more judgement..
It appears your ramblings here are dangerous to a person's
eternal soul.
The other part is that you have reduced Jesus Christ down to a
lawyer?? You said:"Should you enlist Jesus for legal aid, he
knows how to get any and all charges against you dropped"
The very title Jesus warns against in:
Luke 14:46....."And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for
ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves
touch not the burdens with one of your fingers."
I know you did not mean anything by it but one needs to be a
little more careful, I would think?
Blade[/shadow]I concur.
#Post#: 15828--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: August 4, 2020, 1:32 pm
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babe
#Post#: 17795--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: September 21, 2020, 3:49 pm
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>
> babe
>
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in the woods
#Post#: 18699--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: October 11, 2020, 10:09 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg15828#msg15828
date=1596565936]
> babe
>
--- End Quote ---
in the woods
[/quote] 8)
#Post#: 18852--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: October 14, 2020, 3:56 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg17795#msg17795
date=1600721364]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg15828#msg15828
date=1596565936]
> babe
>
--- End Quote ---
in the woods
[/quote] 8)
[/quote]babe
#Post#: 18958--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: October 16, 2020, 8:48 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg18699#msg18699
date=1602428950]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg17795#msg17795
date=1600721364]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg15828#msg15828
date=1596565936]
> babe
>
--- End Quote ---
in the woods
[/quote] 8)
[/quote]babe
[/quote]🥃
#Post#: 19040--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Babe In The Manger
DIR By: guest73
Date: October 18, 2020, 8:45 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg18852#msg18852
date=1602709017]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg18699#msg18699
date=1602428950]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg17795#msg17795
date=1600721364]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=289.msg15828#msg15828
date=1596565936]
> babe
>
--- End Quote ---
in the woods
[/quote] 8)
[/quote]babe
[/quote]🥃
[/quote]✝
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