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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=284.msg15429#msg15429
date=1595284238]
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I do not agree with this opinion. Demons, have to be invited
into a body include those of animals. Just because you sin does
not mean you have a (spirit) within you... This opinion is that
if you do not have the Holy Spirit within you, you have a
demon.......Not Biblical,.
Blade
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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
By: patrick jane Date: August 16, 2020, 8:28 am
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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
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date=1610955631]
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If one reads the seven letters to the seven churches in Rev 2-3,
one will see that there are overcomers from every church, thus
leaving those who are not-overcomers.
Blade
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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
By: patrick jane Date: March 22, 2021, 7:11 pm
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The Equality Act, People of Faith, and Religious Freedom
When sexual freedom conflicts with religious freedom, who will
take precedent?
H. R. 5, known as “The Equality Act,” was introduced in the
United States Senate Judiciary Committee last week. The
legislation would amend the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to prohibit
discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender
identity in employment, housing, public accommodations, public
education, federal funding, the credit system, and jury duty. H.
R. 5 seeks to create a new protected class for people
experiencing same-sex attraction or gender discordance from
discrimination of any kind. At the heart of this effort is an
attempt to dismiss ontological sexual differences as unimportant
by redefining gender as only a matter of social construct.
The Equality Act, which has an appealing name, does not actually
support equality for everyone. To the contrary, it targets
people of faith for whom human sexuality is not merely a matter
of personal opinion. Several advocates for The Equality Act
claim that the proposal allows both sexual freedom and religious
freedom to coexist, doing so by understanding faith primarily,
if not entirely, as a private expression in one’s heart. Under
this law, religious faith is limited to a narrow, personal,
subjective, and privatized understanding of faith. For years,
the brilliant sociologist Peter Berger insightfully and
prophetically reminded us of the trends in our culture not only
toward secularization and pluralization, but toward the
privatization of faith.
Fellow citizens who hold positions of religious faith, however,
understand that one’s faith is both objective and subjective,
vertical and horizontal, as well as personal and communal. Faith
possesses certain public dimensions that should not be outlawed
simply because of changes in a public opinion poll. Human
dignity must remain vital for every person since all humans are
created in the image of God. Thus, all persons, regardless of
their religious beliefs, should be treated with compassion and
respect without regard to race, ethnicity, religion, or
biological sex.
Unjust discrimination or harassment must never be tolerated in a
pluralistic society and the desire to protect people from such
unwelcomed actions is commendable. Where genuine unjust
discrimination and harassment exists, all Americans, regardless
of religious identity, should work together in a pluralistic
society to seek to address such actions. As a nation founded
with a commitment to principled pluralism, we want to honor
every person’s right to gainful employment and to basic goods
and services needed to live and flourish. People of faith want
to work with others, demonstrating neighbor love, to ensure that
these basic rights are protected and that nondiscrimination
principles are protected. We want to see this take place,
however, without confusing ontological differences between male
and female.
When sexual freedom conflicts with religious freedom, The
Equality Act devalues religious freedom, stating that “The
Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993,” which was sponsored
in the House of Representatives by then Congressman Chuck
Schumer and in the Senate by Senator Ted Kennedy, and passed
almost unanimously by Congress before being signed into law by
President Bill Clinton, “shall not provide a claim concerning,
or a defense to a claim under, a covered title, or provide a
basis for challenging the application or enforcement of a
covered title.” This language removes traditional religious
freedom protections that have characterized Constitutional
discussions since the days of the Bill of Rights. Appearing to
target those who might disagree with the ideas put forth in the
legislation, it effectively brings an end to the kind of
dialogue that has long been important for a pluralistic society.
The Equality Act would become the first major piece of
legislation in the history of the United States to exclude
protections for religious freedom. The bill does not even
recognize the sacred rights of religious congregations,
communities, or denominations. In fact, it would discriminate
against people of faith by adversely affecting religious
schools, benevolence organizations, women’s sports, sex specific
facilities, and conscience rights. If religious freedom entails
the ability of people on their own to reach conclusions about
their religious beliefs and to live out those beliefs in the
community, the marketplace, and the public square in an
unhindered way, then the so-called Equality Act will violate the
religious freedom of millions of people in this country.
H. R. 5, which was passed in the House of Representatives this
past month, and which President Biden has promised to sign into
law, reveals the divisions in American culture. President Biden
commented that “every person should be treated with dignity and
respect, and this bill represents a critical step toward
ensuring that America lives up to our foundational values of
equality and freedom for all.”
Yet, this legislation has been called the most invasive threat
to religious liberty ever proposed in America because of its
intent to mandate understandings of sexual orientation and
gender identity as expectations for all aspects of society.
Anyone who maintains a traditional understanding of human
sexuality, gender identity, and marriage will no longer be
allowed to disagree out of good will and commitment to one’s
beliefs but will treated as one guilty of discrimination. The
bill also addresses abortion by including the language of
“pregnancy, childbirth, or a related medical condition” as that
which is forbidden by law. By including this language in the
discussions of sexuality, anyone who refuses to perform an
abortion would be guilty of sexual discrimination
As others have observed, The Equality Act, which reaches far
beyond its basic goals, fails to differentiate between views
that are morally repugnant from those that are culturally
disfavored. It should be recognized that this would not just
affect one particular religious group. This legislation moves
against people represented across the entire landscape of the
United States, all of whom cherish historical protections for
the diversity of religious convictions.
Beliefs regarding sexual ethics held by Muslims, Jews, Roman
Catholics, and Evangelical Protestants are supported by
centuries of tradition, reason, and natural law, as well as by
teachings viewed as special revelation by these various faith
communities. The proposed legislation pushes against these
perspectives and seeks to contain them in certain legal spaces
deemed appropriate by public law. By doing so, it delegitimizes
diverse points of view held by people of good will. Looking
ahead, these perspectives will be viewed to represent malevolent
ill will, labeled as a form of discrimination similar to racism.
Religious communities have also maintained an anthropological
understanding that the human person is a unity of body and soul,
a whole person. They have maintained that a person’s identity is
not separable from one’s body. Sexual difference is a sacred
dimension of human life and the beautiful complementarity
between male and female should be celebrated. The Equality Act
would thus burden people who have religious-based questions
about the gender ideology movement.
If passed by the U. S. Senate, this legislation would create a
hostility toward religious ethics in the court of public opinion
resulting in the narrowing of opportunities for people of faith
to serve in the areas of education, social work, counseling,
healthcare, as well as other spheres. Extending beyond the
impact of the Obergefell (2015) and Bostock (2020) Supreme Court
decision, the missional, legal, financial, and cultural impact
of The Equality Act on religious schools, non-profits, and
benevolence organizations would be immediate and wide ranging.
Raising the LGBTQ community to a protected class at the federal
level would greatly affect hiring rights, behavioral
expectations, federal funding, and accreditation. Moreover, it
would change the way that graduates of religious colleges are
viewed when it comes to graduate school opportunities, job
placement, and internships, making it more difficult for these
schools to carry out their mission in a faithful manner,
limiting their ability to serve society at large. Frankly, the
bill is so pervasive, almost nothing would escape its sweeping
influence, having implications for private businesses and
individuals as well.
The Equality Act expands the meaning of public accommodations in
ways that would violate the privacy of women and men, forcing a
gender ideology not only on schools, but healthcare
organizations and those who provide benevolence and charitable
services. Some entities that would not normally be classified by
law as public institutions will be considered such by H. R. 5.
As a result of this legislation, if a Jewish synagogue, for
example, rents its banquet hall for certain events, then they
would be mandated to host events that they may consider immoral
in their facility.
The Equality Act is anything but a step toward ensuring that
America lives up to its foundational values of equality and
freedom for all. With no ability to appeal to the Religious
Freedom Restoration Act, the protection of conscience and
religious liberty will be lost. People of faith, while
recognizing that they now live as a cultural and cognitive
minority, will need to work together, exemplifying conviction as
well as civility and kindness, to support religious freedom
issues as a first priority, recognizing the broad implications
for many areas of private and public life in what Charles Taylor
has rightly called “our secular age.”
David S. Dockery serves as president of the International
Alliance for Christian Education and as distinguished professor
of theology at Southwestern Seminary.
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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
By: guest8 Date: March 22, 2021, 10:55 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=284.msg27332#msg27332
date=1616458291]
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HTML https://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2021/march/equality-act-people-of-faith-and-religious-freedom.html
The Equality Act, People of Faith, and Religious Freedom
When sexual freedom conflicts with religious freedom, who will
take precedent?
H. R. 5, known as “The Equality Act,” was introduced in the
United States Senate Judiciary Committee last week. The
legislation would amend the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to prohibit
discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender
identity in employment, housing, public accommodations, public
education, federal funding, the credit system, and jury duty. H.
R. 5 seeks to create a new protected class for people
experiencing same-sex attraction or gender discordance from
discrimination of any kind. At the heart of this effort is an
attempt to dismiss ontological sexual differences as unimportant
by redefining gender as only a matter of social construct.
The Equality Act, which has an appealing name, does not actually
support equality for everyone. To the contrary, it targets
people of faith for whom human sexuality is not merely a matter
of personal opinion. Several advocates for The Equality Act
claim that the proposal allows both sexual freedom and religious
freedom to coexist, doing so by understanding faith primarily,
if not entirely, as a private expression in one’s heart. Under
this law, religious faith is limited to a narrow, personal,
subjective, and privatized understanding of faith. For years,
the brilliant sociologist Peter Berger insightfully and
prophetically reminded us of the trends in our culture not only
toward secularization and pluralization, but toward the
privatization of faith.
Fellow citizens who hold positions of religious faith, however,
understand that one’s faith is both objective and subjective,
vertical and horizontal, as well as personal and communal. Faith
possesses certain public dimensions that should not be outlawed
simply because of changes in a public opinion poll. Human
dignity must remain vital for every person since all humans are
created in the image of God. Thus, all persons, regardless of
their religious beliefs, should be treated with compassion and
respect without regard to race, ethnicity, religion, or
biological sex.
Unjust discrimination or harassment must never be tolerated in a
pluralistic society and the desire to protect people from such
unwelcomed actions is commendable. Where genuine unjust
discrimination and harassment exists, all Americans, regardless
of religious identity, should work together in a pluralistic
society to seek to address such actions. As a nation founded
with a commitment to principled pluralism, we want to honor
every person’s right to gainful employment and to basic goods
and services needed to live and flourish. People of faith want
to work with others, demonstrating neighbor love, to ensure that
these basic rights are protected and that nondiscrimination
principles are protected. We want to see this take place,
however, without confusing ontological differences between male
and female.
When sexual freedom conflicts with religious freedom, The
Equality Act devalues religious freedom, stating that “The
Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993,” which was sponsored
in the House of Representatives by then Congressman Chuck
Schumer and in the Senate by Senator Ted Kennedy, and passed
almost unanimously by Congress before being signed into law by
President Bill Clinton, “shall not provide a claim concerning,
or a defense to a claim under, a covered title, or provide a
basis for challenging the application or enforcement of a
covered title.” This language removes traditional religious
freedom protections that have characterized Constitutional
discussions since the days of the Bill of Rights. Appearing to
target those who might disagree with the ideas put forth in the
legislation, it effectively brings an end to the kind of
dialogue that has long been important for a pluralistic society.
The Equality Act would become the first major piece of
legislation in the history of the United States to exclude
protections for religious freedom. The bill does not even
recognize the sacred rights of religious congregations,
communities, or denominations. In fact, it would discriminate
against people of faith by adversely affecting religious
schools, benevolence organizations, women’s sports, sex specific
facilities, and conscience rights. If religious freedom entails
the ability of people on their own to reach conclusions about
their religious beliefs and to live out those beliefs in the
community, the marketplace, and the public square in an
unhindered way, then the so-called Equality Act will violate the
religious freedom of millions of people in this country.
H. R. 5, which was passed in the House of Representatives this
past month, and which President Biden has promised to sign into
law, reveals the divisions in American culture. President Biden
commented that “every person should be treated with dignity and
respect, and this bill represents a critical step toward
ensuring that America lives up to our foundational values of
equality and freedom for all.”
Yet, this legislation has been called the most invasive threat
to religious liberty ever proposed in America because of its
intent to mandate understandings of sexual orientation and
gender identity as expectations for all aspects of society.
Anyone who maintains a traditional understanding of human
sexuality, gender identity, and marriage will no longer be
allowed to disagree out of good will and commitment to one’s
beliefs but will treated as one guilty of discrimination. The
bill also addresses abortion by including the language of
“pregnancy, childbirth, or a related medical condition” as that
which is forbidden by law. By including this language in the
discussions of sexuality, anyone who refuses to perform an
abortion would be guilty of sexual discrimination
As others have observed, The Equality Act, which reaches far
beyond its basic goals, fails to differentiate between views
that are morally repugnant from those that are culturally
disfavored. It should be recognized that this would not just
affect one particular religious group. This legislation moves
against people represented across the entire landscape of the
United States, all of whom cherish historical protections for
the diversity of religious convictions.
Beliefs regarding sexual ethics held by Muslims, Jews, Roman
Catholics, and Evangelical Protestants are supported by
centuries of tradition, reason, and natural law, as well as by
teachings viewed as special revelation by these various faith
communities. The proposed legislation pushes against these
perspectives and seeks to contain them in certain legal spaces
deemed appropriate by public law. By doing so, it delegitimizes
diverse points of view held by people of good will. Looking
ahead, these perspectives will be viewed to represent malevolent
ill will, labeled as a form of discrimination similar to racism.
Religious communities have also maintained an anthropological
understanding that the human person is a unity of body and soul,
a whole person. They have maintained that a person’s identity is
not separable from one’s body. Sexual difference is a sacred
dimension of human life and the beautiful complementarity
between male and female should be celebrated. The Equality Act
would thus burden people who have religious-based questions
about the gender ideology movement.
If passed by the U. S. Senate, this legislation would create a
hostility toward religious ethics in the court of public opinion
resulting in the narrowing of opportunities for people of faith
to serve in the areas of education, social work, counseling,
healthcare, as well as other spheres. Extending beyond the
impact of the Obergefell (2015) and Bostock (2020) Supreme Court
decision, the missional, legal, financial, and cultural impact
of The Equality Act on religious schools, non-profits, and
benevolence organizations would be immediate and wide ranging.
Raising the LGBTQ community to a protected class at the federal
level would greatly affect hiring rights, behavioral
expectations, federal funding, and accreditation. Moreover, it
would change the way that graduates of religious colleges are
viewed when it comes to graduate school opportunities, job
placement, and internships, making it more difficult for these
schools to carry out their mission in a faithful manner,
limiting their ability to serve society at large. Frankly, the
bill is so pervasive, almost nothing would escape its sweeping
influence, having implications for private businesses and
individuals as well.
The Equality Act expands the meaning of public accommodations in
ways that would violate the privacy of women and men, forcing a
gender ideology not only on schools, but healthcare
organizations and those who provide benevolence and charitable
services. Some entities that would not normally be classified by
law as public institutions will be considered such by H. R. 5.
As a result of this legislation, if a Jewish synagogue, for
example, rents its banquet hall for certain events, then they
would be mandated to host events that they may consider immoral
in their facility.
The Equality Act is anything but a step toward ensuring that
America lives up to its foundational values of equality and
freedom for all. With no ability to appeal to the Religious
Freedom Restoration Act, the protection of conscience and
religious liberty will be lost. People of faith, while
recognizing that they now live as a cultural and cognitive
minority, will need to work together, exemplifying conviction as
well as civility and kindness, to support religious freedom
issues as a first priority, recognizing the broad implications
for many areas of private and public life in what Charles Taylor
has rightly called “our secular age.”
David S. Dockery serves as president of the International
Alliance for Christian Education and as distinguished professor
of theology at Southwestern Seminary.
[/quote]
the death of the church (denominational) as we know .
Blade
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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
By: patrick jane Date: April 10, 2021, 8:06 pm
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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
By: patrick jane Date: November 4, 2021, 11:40 am
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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
By: guest17 Date: November 8, 2021, 3:48 pm
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Ex-Witch Warns Witchcraft Expanding, Says Hollywood 'Releasing
Spells Over the Viewers'
Musician and artist Jenny Weaver shares her incredible testimony
of faith despite growing up in an abusive home and delving into
witchcraft as a young woman. Now, Weaver warns that those
dabbling in Wiccan are trying to unleash spells and it's even
infecting Christians and the church.
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Re: The Infiltration of the Church
By: patrick jane Date: November 9, 2021, 6:20 pm
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