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Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: guest24 Date: November 25, 2020, 9:03 am
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=238.msg20937#msg20937
date=1606269001]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=238.msg20927#msg20927
date=1606226633]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=238.msg20874#msg20874
date=1606000423]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=238.msg20854#msg20854
date=1605956942]
Wimmin are free to pray and to prophesy providing they cover
their heads ... prophecy here is to be understood as preaching.
Now what else could a woman desire?
They are not to USURP authority ... but it says nothing of men
who willing submit to the authority of a sister.
How many times Paul in his letters greet women, commends them,
calls them FELLOW labourers with him in the gospel, leaders of
house fellowship ...
... to whom Paul desires that the brethren give every assistance
to.
Who could object to being taught by Corrie ten Boom?
[/quote]
In response to the title and some of the post above, GOD told
women they are not to have any authority within the Church
programs......We increasingly see, those words do not mean
anything to many.
Blade
[/quote]
Well it says THE authority, it doesn't say ANY authority. A
sister can minister perfectly well while still submitting to the
overall male authority.
A wise person will recognize the gifts and unction of the Holy
Spirit and there is no male or female here.
[/quote]
Then you too do not recognize the authority of GOD as His WORD!
So Sad
Blade
[/quote]it is the authority of God through scripture that I have
repeatedly asked you to address...so sad that you just brush off
what God wants us to know in exchange for man's wisdom.
#Post#: 21233--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: Billy Evmur Date: November 29, 2020, 6:54 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=238.msg20937#msg20937
date=1606269001]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=238.msg20927#msg20927
date=1606226633]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=238.msg20874#msg20874
date=1606000423]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=238.msg20854#msg20854
date=1605956942]
Wimmin are free to pray and to prophesy providing they cover
their heads ... prophecy here is to be understood as preaching.
Now what else could a woman desire?
They are not to USURP authority ... but it says nothing of men
who willing submit to the authority of a sister.
How many times Paul in his letters greet women, commends them,
calls them FELLOW labourers with him in the gospel, leaders of
house fellowship ...
... to whom Paul desires that the brethren give every assistance
to.
Who could object to being taught by Corrie ten Boom?
[/quote]
In response to the title and some of the post above, GOD told
women they are not to have any authority within the Church
programs......We increasingly see, those words do not mean
anything to many.
Blade
[/quote]
Well it says THE authority, it doesn't say ANY authority. A
sister can minister perfectly well while still submitting to the
overall male authority.
A wise person will recognize the gifts and unction of the Holy
Spirit and there is no male or female here.
[/quote]
Then you too do not recognize the authority of GOD as His WORD!
So Sad
Blade
[/quote]
Do you recognise that women may pray and prophesy [preach]
providing they cover their head?
#Post#: 34760--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: garee Date: August 27, 2021, 10:10 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=238.msg2256#msg2256
date=1542414484]
Why can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
Video clips come from GodQuestions.org video on why woman can't
preach, teach, or lead in the church.
9 minutes
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdRZpcZqSe4
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Virtue lost in the Garden of Eden. Virtue restored by the gospel
of Christ our husband as new creatures
Because of the restored order removing kings in Israel the order
is restored to the period of Judges’ Samuel the last .A new
kingdom of priests was restored, men and women like Deborah or
Rehab sent as apostles with the gospel of Christ.
Previously before the time of reformation under fleshly kings a
government of men (law of the fathers a hierarchy ) Jewish
woman had a high wall not allowing them to participate with the
men in the ceremonies as shadow of the good things to come and
another high wall that separated the gentiles .
The walls fell down the pastoral priesthood was established A
time of great joy for the world a great tribulation like never
before or ever again for a Jew.
Then the lord established the new ceremony because of the
blending together woman men Jew and gentile).Restoring it again
to the garden where virtue was lost. Because of Adams false
pride lust flesh lust of the eye and refusal to protect her
The pastoral requirements are a family affair. Two or three
gathering under the power of Christ’s faith that works in us,
yoked with him. With him empowering us the daily burdens are
lighter.
One wife, no divorcees. . . a good example of a strand of three
is not easily broken as “sign to the world” of the gospel of
peace.. Not a sign unto their own selves (self-edifying)
.Christians walk by faith the unseen eternal
A parable of Christ and the church
The need of a new ceremony as a shadow to come to the world. The
gospel was given in 1 Corinthians 11 a ceremonial parable
therefore restoring virtue that was lost in the garden when Adam
failed to protect Eve. Because of the lust of his eyes looking
at the most beautiful creature that lost the serpents ability to
walk .
Uncovered hair or head and hair covered both revealing virtue is
restored one part of the two part demonstration also another
used the blood of grapes and bread to represent the body Jesus
to represent the consummation the wedding supper
The hair covering part of that gospel sign has all but been
dismissed as a fashion statement for the day .A few
denominations do honor it as two working as one new creature.
The man with no hair covering is used to represent a glory
“Christ our head” the woman to represent as a glory her husband.
The woman not left without a glory of her own representative was
to cover it. The only glory to be seen was of that of the
shadow. The pastoral ministry is dual
The husbands represent the unseen glory of Christ the head or
one given power from above and the wife as a glory to represent
her submission to her husband together represent the love of the
Father and Son working out our salvation .
Temporal mankind both man and woman called the bride or wife of
Christ. . The new creatures we are as sons of God .according to
1 John
Husbands wash your wives with the doctrines of God that fall
like rain as Christ washes the whole church. Wives in their
weakness submit to their husbands as if they were Christ.
Something God demonstrated with Moses and Aaron together a
ministry of two.
Exodus 4:15 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his
mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and
will teach you what ye shall do. And he shall be thy spokesman
unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee
instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.
The witness of God s two never one.
#Post#: 34761--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: guest8 Date: August 27, 2021, 11:32 pm
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[quote author=garee link=topic=238.msg34760#msg34760
date=1630120252]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=238.msg2256#msg2256
date=1542414484]
Why can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
Video clips come from GodQuestions.org video on why woman can't
preach, teach, or lead in the church.
9 minutes
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Virtue lost in the Garden of Eden. Virtue restored by the gospel
of Christ our husband as new creatures
Because of the restored order removing kings in Israel the order
is restored to the period of Judges’ Samuel the last .A new
kingdom of priests was restored, men and women like Deborah or
Rehab sent as apostles with the gospel of Christ.
Previously before the time of reformation under fleshly kings a
government of men (law of the fathers a hierarchy ) Jewish
woman had a high wall not allowing them to participate with the
men in the ceremonies as shadow of the good things to come and
another high wall that separated the gentiles .
The walls fell down the pastoral priesthood was established A
time of great joy for the world a great tribulation like never
before or ever again for a Jew.
Then the lord established the new ceremony because of the
blending together woman men Jew and gentile).Restoring it again
to the garden where virtue was lost. Because of Adams false
pride lust flesh lust of the eye and refusal to protect her
The pastoral requirements are a family affair. Two or three
gathering under the power of Christ’s faith that works in us,
yoked with him. With him empowering us the daily burdens are
lighter.
One wife, no divorcees. . . a good example of a strand of three
is not easily broken as “sign to the world” of the gospel of
peace.. Not a sign unto their own selves (self-edifying)
.Christians walk by faith the unseen eternal
A parable of Christ and the church
The need of a new ceremony as a shadow to come to the world. The
gospel was given in 1 Corinthians 11 a ceremonial parable
therefore restoring virtue that was lost in the garden when Adam
failed to protect Eve. Because of the lust of his eyes looking
at the most beautiful creature that lost the serpents ability to
walk .
Uncovered hair or head and hair covered both revealing virtue is
restored one part of the two part demonstration also another
used the blood of grapes and bread to represent the body Jesus
to represent the consummation the wedding supper
The hair covering part of that gospel sign has all but been
dismissed as a fashion statement for the day .A few
denominations do honor it as two working as one new creature.
The man with no hair covering is used to represent a glory
“Christ our head” the woman to represent as a glory her husband.
The woman not left without a glory of her own representative was
to cover it. The only glory to be seen was of that of the
shadow. The pastoral ministry is dual
The husbands represent the unseen glory of Christ the head or
one given power from above and the wife as a glory to represent
her submission to her husband together represent the love of the
Father and Son working out our salvation .
Temporal mankind both man and woman called the bride or wife of
Christ. . The new creatures we are as sons of God .according to
1 John
Husbands wash your wives with the doctrines of God that fall
like rain as Christ washes the whole church. Wives in their
weakness submit to their husbands as if they were Christ.
Something God demonstrated with Moses and Aaron together a
ministry of two.
Exodus 4:15 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his
mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and
will teach you what ye shall do. And he shall be thy spokesman
unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee
instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.
The witness of God s two never one.
[/quote]
Because God tells us they cannot in His House.
Blade
#Post#: 34763--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: guest8 Date: August 27, 2021, 11:35 pm
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[quote author=garee link=topic=238.msg34760#msg34760
date=1630120252]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=238.msg2256#msg2256
date=1542414484]
Why can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
Video clips come from GodQuestions.org video on why woman can't
preach, teach, or lead in the church.
9 minutes
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Virtue lost in the Garden of Eden. Virtue restored by the gospel
of Christ our husband as new creatures
Because of the restored order removing kings in Israel the order
is restored to the period of Judges’ Samuel the last .A new
kingdom of priests was restored, men and women like Deborah or
Rehab sent as apostles with the gospel of Christ.
Previously before the time of reformation under fleshly kings a
government of men (law of the fathers a hierarchy ) Jewish
woman had a high wall not allowing them to participate with the
men in the ceremonies as shadow of the good things to come and
another high wall that separated the gentiles .
The walls fell down the pastoral priesthood was established A
time of great joy for the world a great tribulation like never
before or ever again for a Jew.
Then the lord established the new ceremony because of the
blending together woman men Jew and gentile).Restoring it again
to the garden where virtue was lost. Because of Adams false
pride lust flesh lust of the eye and refusal to protect her
The pastoral requirements are a family affair. Two or three
gathering under the power of Christ’s faith that works in us,
yoked with him. With him empowering us the daily burdens are
lighter.
One wife, no divorcees. . . a good example of a strand of three
is not easily broken as “sign to the world” of the gospel of
peace.. Not a sign unto their own selves (self-edifying)
.Christians walk by faith the unseen eternal
A parable of Christ and the church
The need of a new ceremony as a shadow to come to the world. The
gospel was given in 1 Corinthians 11 a ceremonial parable
therefore restoring virtue that was lost in the garden when Adam
failed to protect Eve. Because of the lust of his eyes looking
at the most beautiful creature that lost the serpents ability to
walk .
Uncovered hair or head and hair covered both revealing virtue is
restored one part of the two part demonstration also another
used the blood of grapes and bread to represent the body Jesus
to represent the consummation the wedding supper
The hair covering part of that gospel sign has all but been
dismissed as a fashion statement for the day .A few
denominations do honor it as two working as one new creature.
The man with no hair covering is used to represent a glory
“Christ our head” the woman to represent as a glory her husband.
The woman not left without a glory of her own representative was
to cover it. The only glory to be seen was of that of the
shadow. The pastoral ministry is dual
The husbands represent the unseen glory of Christ the head or
one given power from above and the wife as a glory to represent
her submission to her husband together represent the love of the
Father and Son working out our salvation .
Temporal mankind both man and woman called the bride or wife of
Christ. . The new creatures we are as sons of God .according to
1 John
Husbands wash your wives with the doctrines of God that fall
like rain as Christ washes the whole church. Wives in their
weakness submit to their husbands as if they were Christ.
Something God demonstrated with Moses and Aaron together a
ministry of two.
Exodus 4:15 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his
mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and
will teach you what ye shall do. And he shall be thy spokesman
unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee
instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.
The witness of God s two never one.
[/quote]
Because God tells us they cannot in His House.
Blade
#Post#: 34766--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: guest24 Date: August 28, 2021, 6:07 am
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Well it says THE authority, it doesn't say ANY authority. A
sister can minister perfectly well while still submitting to the
overall male authority.
[/quote] why do you think your understanding of scripture trumps
what God does and wants to do through all His people?
A wise person will recognize the gifts and unction of the Holy
Spirit and there is no male or female here.
[/quote]
Then you too do not recognize the authority of GOD as His WORD!
So Sad
Blade
[/quote]And you don't recognize the reality that you by
insisting that your interpretation of scripture could be wrong
since it does not say what you claim it says and therefore are
telling God what He can and cannot do....which is where the real
sad comes into the discussion.
#Post#: 34769--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: garee Date: August 28, 2021, 8:07 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=238.msg34763#msg34763
date=1630125331]
[quote author=garee link=topic=238.msg34760#msg34760
date=1630120252]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=238.msg2256#msg2256
date=1542414484]
Why can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
Video clips come from GodQuestions.org video on why woman can't
preach, teach, or lead in the church.
9 minutes
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Virtue lost in the Garden of Eden. Virtue restored by the gospel
of Christ our husband as new creatures
Because of the restored order removing kings in Israel the order
is restored to the period of Judges’ Samuel the last .A new
kingdom of priests was restored, men and women like Deborah or
Rehab sent as apostles with the gospel of Christ.
Previously before the time of reformation under fleshly kings a
government of men (law of the fathers a hierarchy ) Jewish
woman had a high wall not allowing them to participate with the
men in the ceremonies as shadow of the good things to come and
another high wall that separated the gentiles .
The walls fell down the pastoral priesthood was established A
time of great joy for the world a great tribulation like never
before or ever again for a Jew.
Then the lord established the new ceremony because of the
blending together woman men Jew and gentile).Restoring it again
to the garden where virtue was lost. Because of Adams false
pride lust flesh lust of the eye and refusal to protect her
The pastoral requirements are a family affair. Two or three
gathering under the power of Christ’s faith that works in us,
yoked with him. With him empowering us the daily burdens are
lighter.
One wife, no divorcees. . . a good example of a strand of three
is not easily broken as “sign to the world” of the gospel of
peace.. Not a sign unto their own selves (self-edifying)
.Christians walk by faith the unseen eternal
A parable of Christ and the church
The need of a new ceremony as a shadow to come to the world. The
gospel was given in 1 Corinthians 11 a ceremonial parable
therefore restoring virtue that was lost in the garden when Adam
failed to protect Eve. Because of the lust of his eyes looking
at the most beautiful creature that lost the serpents ability to
walk .
Uncovered hair or head and hair covered both revealing virtue is
restored one part of the two part demonstration also another
used the blood of grapes and bread to represent the body Jesus
to represent the consummation the wedding supper
The hair covering part of that gospel sign has all but been
dismissed as a fashion statement for the day .A few
denominations do honor it as two working as one new creature.
The man with no hair covering is used to represent a glory
“Christ our head” the woman to represent as a glory her husband.
The woman not left without a glory of her own representative was
to cover it. The only glory to be seen was of that of the
shadow. The pastoral ministry is dual
The husbands represent the unseen glory of Christ the head or
one given power from above and the wife as a glory to represent
her submission to her husband together represent the love of the
Father and Son working out our salvation .
Temporal mankind both man and woman called the bride or wife of
Christ. . The new creatures we are as sons of God .according to
1 John
Husbands wash your wives with the doctrines of God that fall
like rain as Christ washes the whole church. Wives in their
weakness submit to their husbands as if they were Christ.
Something God demonstrated with Moses and Aaron together a
ministry of two.
Exodus 4:15 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his
mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and
will teach you what ye shall do. And he shall be thy spokesman
unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee
instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.
The witness of God s two never one.
[/quote]
Because God tells us they cannot in His House.
Blade
[/quote]
The pastoral ministry is two or three, a family or a nation of
families called tribes sects or denominations.
Because of the new reformed order destroying the abomination of
desolation (kings in Israel) men and woman prophets according to
the promise of Joel preaching the gospel as a new kingdom of
priest sent out as apostles .restoring to the order of judges
like Deborah, Samson. . Samuel the last Judge before God gave
over to the pagan Jews to do that which they should not of.
God set up the New Testament ceremonial law (1 Corithians11) in
order to restore virtue. Adam failed to protect Eve as Christ
protects the church the bride.
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my
name, there am I in the midst of them.
Again restoring virtue two working as one.
If the foundation of the doctrine of the Nazarene is searched
out we can understand why God used hair to represent the unseen
glory of God .It must be covered when families gather together
and man hair not covered . If either the unseen glory
represented by man with a woman to represent his glory is
violated the whole ceremony is rendered useless .
.
Woman is not left without a represented glory “her hair. The
Nazarene vow, the Nazarene the first sect mentioned of this side
of the cross.
Paul is shown releasing himself from the vow, shaving his head.
The Nazarene vow throughout the bible was for both man and
woman. Virtue restored
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Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: guest8 Date: August 29, 2021, 8:31 pm
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[quote author=garee link=topic=238.msg34769#msg34769
date=1630199220]
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date=1630125331]
[quote author=garee link=topic=238.msg34760#msg34760
date=1630120252]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=238.msg2256#msg2256
date=1542414484]
Why can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
Video clips come from GodQuestions.org video on why woman can't
preach, teach, or lead in the church.
9 minutes
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Virtue lost in the Garden of Eden. Virtue restored by the gospel
of Christ our husband as new creatures
Because of the restored order removing kings in Israel the order
is restored to the period of Judges’ Samuel the last .A new
kingdom of priests was restored, men and women like Deborah or
Rehab sent as apostles with the gospel of Christ.
Previously before the time of reformation under fleshly kings a
government of men (law of the fathers a hierarchy ) Jewish
woman had a high wall not allowing them to participate with the
men in the ceremonies as shadow of the good things to come and
another high wall that separated the gentiles .
The walls fell down the pastoral priesthood was established A
time of great joy for the world a great tribulation like never
before or ever again for a Jew.
Then the lord established the new ceremony because of the
blending together woman men Jew and gentile).Restoring it again
to the garden where virtue was lost. Because of Adams false
pride lust flesh lust of the eye and refusal to protect her
The pastoral requirements are a family affair. Two or three
gathering under the power of Christ’s faith that works in us,
yoked with him. With him empowering us the daily burdens are
lighter.
One wife, no divorcees. . . a good example of a strand of three
is not easily broken as “sign to the world” of the gospel of
peace.. Not a sign unto their own selves (self-edifying)
.Christians walk by faith the unseen eternal
A parable of Christ and the church
The need of a new ceremony as a shadow to come to the world. The
gospel was given in 1 Corinthians 11 a ceremonial parable
therefore restoring virtue that was lost in the garden when Adam
failed to protect Eve. Because of the lust of his eyes looking
at the most beautiful creature that lost the serpents ability to
walk .
Uncovered hair or head and hair covered both revealing virtue is
restored one part of the two part demonstration also another
used the blood of grapes and bread to represent the body Jesus
to represent the consummation the wedding supper
The hair covering part of that gospel sign has all but been
dismissed as a fashion statement for the day .A few
denominations do honor it as two working as one new creature.
The man with no hair covering is used to represent a glory
“Christ our head” the woman to represent as a glory her husband.
The woman not left without a glory of her own representative was
to cover it. The only glory to be seen was of that of the
shadow. The pastoral ministry is dual
The husbands represent the unseen glory of Christ the head or
one given power from above and the wife as a glory to represent
her submission to her husband together represent the love of the
Father and Son working out our salvation .
Temporal mankind both man and woman called the bride or wife of
Christ. . The new creatures we are as sons of God .according to
1 John
Husbands wash your wives with the doctrines of God that fall
like rain as Christ washes the whole church. Wives in their
weakness submit to their husbands as if they were Christ.
Something God demonstrated with Moses and Aaron together a
ministry of two.
Exodus 4:15 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his
mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and
will teach you what ye shall do. And he shall be thy spokesman
unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee
instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.
The witness of God s two never one.
[/quote]
Because God tells us they cannot in His House.
Blade
[/quote]
The pastoral ministry is two or three, a family or a nation of
families called tribes sects or denominations.
Because of the new reformed order destroying the abomination of
desolation (kings in Israel) men and woman prophets according to
the promise of Joel preaching the gospel as a new kingdom of
priest sent out as apostles .restoring to the order of judges
like Deborah, Samson. . Samuel the last Judge before God gave
over to the pagan Jews to do that which they should not of.
God set up the New Testament ceremonial law (1 Corithians11) in
order to restore virtue. Adam failed to protect Eve as Christ
protects the church the bride.
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my
name, there am I in the midst of them.
Again restoring virtue two working as one.
If the foundation of the doctrine of the Nazarene is searched
out we can understand why God used hair to represent the unseen
glory of God .It must be covered when families gather together
and man hair not covered . If either the unseen glory
represented by man with a woman to represent his glory is
violated the whole ceremony is rendered useless .
.
Woman is not left without a represented glory “her hair. The
Nazarene vow, the Nazarene the first sect mentioned of this side
of the cross.
Paul is shown releasing himself from the vow, shaving his head.
The Nazarene vow throughout the bible was for both man and
woman. Virtue restored
[/quote]
wow!
Blade
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Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: garee Date: September 2, 2021, 2:57 pm
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[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=238.msg20490#msg20490
date=1605374055]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=238.msg20454#msg20454
date=1605326532]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=238.msg20442#msg20442
date=1605294962]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=238.msg20441#msg20441
date=1605288438]
What struck me when I did the study on woman in the church was
the word "LIKEWISE" in the same way women...if you go back and
see what Paul tells me, they are to live "quite" and "peaceful"
lives...LIKEWISE women are to be quiet and not usurp
authority...if the roles are "LIKEWISE" then they cannot be
completely different teachings, when we look at word study, we
discover the words are nearly the same, it is our translations
that get it wrong. But as a woman, no lone will even look at
the study I did except maybe my own husband who agrees with what
I found and a couple of other men who are not determined to
quench the
Holy Spirit that flows through woman too.
When someone can explain to me why when men are taught to live
quiet and peaceful lives and LIKEWISE woman are to live quiet
and peaceful lives is to be interpreted a different way with a
rational explanation, then I will be happy to return to my
historical teaching that I grew up with.
[/quote]Usurp authority is what is different.
[/quote]
LORI......Women are not to have any authority within the
church.[/quote] you still haven't shown me this in
scripture...and just for the record, my husband and I talked
about it and these videos this AM and he is still agreeing with
what I found which you refuse to address. [quote] It was during
Paul's days and it is still in effect today. Outside of the
church (i.e. this forum) you are on your own.....Yes, the Bible
says to live quite and peaceful lives and by doing the opposite
(i.e. feminist, CEOs, Execs, etc.), do run the risk that they
will be guilty of not following His WORD!
Blade
[/quote]You assert this but refuse to show it to me in
scripture.
Let's take the roles in the marriage for example since that is
one argument you previously presented...The word for submitting
has two meanings...1. in the military it means the hierarchy of
command but in nonmilitary use (as in marriage) it means 2. to
work together with. This takes us back to Gen. where the woman
was given as a helpmate, but it also takes us to passages like 2
Corinthians 5:20 where we are told we are Christ's
ambassadors...(scripture interpreting scripture you know)...so
if it means to work together with, where does that disqualify
the wife from any position in the church? But we aren't done
yet...Christ is the head of the Church, not the man...so if the
woman cannot serve as say pastor because of her role in the
family, the same is true of the men in the church, only Christ
can serve as pastor since He alone is the head of the
church...so, therefore, we cannot by reason of following the
teaching through to the end, have any man as pastor.
Now before you tell me I am wrong and just repeat your stand
rather than offering substance, let me remind you that I was
totally into the traditional understanding before I actually
studied the passage and even after study I am NOT fond of women
pastors but my preference is NOT the question...what scripture
teaches is the question and repeating your assertions without
rebuttal of what I found when I studied does no good to
profitable communication on the matter.
[/quote]
The ministry is always two fold. The witness of two working as
one. Like the father and the son.. . can't have one without the
other.
The new order of priest propmised in Joel. . men and woman from
all the nations of the world remains .
In the end of the matter prophets men or women sent as apostles
preach the gospel and water it with the doctrines of God that
fall like rain (inspired form above) they are considered as
nothing .(Powerless)
The unseen Holy Father that dwells in each believes has the
power of faith to teach us his thoughts . Like Jesus we can
preach the gospel but the father must provide the faith or power
to believe.
On one occasion when one came to Jesus and bowed down calling
Jesus good master as Lord the infallible teaching authority
.Jesus gave glory to the unseen Holy Father saying. . .only one
is the good teaching master God (not seen) not the Son of man
the temporal (seen).
Its never about us men or woman as if God was served by humans
hands as a will .
1 Corinthians 3:7-9King James Version So then neither is he that
planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that
giveth the increase. Now he that planteth and he that watereth
are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to
his own labour. For we are labourers together with God: ye are
God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
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Re: Why Can't Women Preach, Teach, or Lead in the Church??
By: patrick jane Date: July 3, 2022, 1:55 am
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Are Female Pastors Biblical?
On today's broadcast we examine 15 reasons from scripture why
female pastors are not Biblical according to the word of God.
1 hour 10 minutes
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJgztXCSurs
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