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       Jon
       By: guest5 Date: August 5, 2018, 7:09 pm
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       Hey, I’m Jon. I came from Theology Forums (y’all should check
       them out too). I’m Christian, i’m From Mississippi. I like
       fishing and hunting. I actually dabble in several hobbies, so
       the odds are that you and I have at least SOMETHING in common.
       I’m a beginner at theology, and i’m Not at the depths of the
       rabbit hole in conspiracies YET. I’m a pretty friendly guy, that
       likes to try and get along with everybody that I can. Also, i’m
       Not afraid to be wrong about something lol, so feel free to
       point me out, I don’t mind learning.
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       #Post#: 122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon
       By: joechan82 Date: August 5, 2018, 10:15 pm
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       I'm Joe and I'm a forum-oholic. I am in FA. It really works. I
       go on forums, but I use a different name. When I worked in the
       prison system (on staff, if you please) I had to introduce new
       inmates to Federal Prison Industries. The AA and NA (Narcotics
       Anonymous) representative usually followed me. As I closed my
       bit, I told the inmates to really listen to the AA/NA guy. I
       said, "It really works. I still drink, but now I use a different
       name." It is an old Rodney Dangerfield joke. The AA/NA rep was
       highly ticked off. I was just trying to be funny. I have learned
       that not all people appreciate humor. As my youngest daughter
       once said, "Dark humor is not everybody's pot of boiling
       puppies."
       #Post#: 136--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon
       By: guest5 Date: August 6, 2018, 4:40 am
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       [quote author=joechan82 link=topic=23.msg122#msg122
       date=1533525330]
       I'm Joe and I'm a forum-oholic. I am in FA. It really works. I
       go on forums, but I use a different name. When I worked in the
       prison system (on staff, if you please) I had to introduce new
       inmates to Federal Prison Industries. The AA and NA (Narcotics
       Anonymous) representative usually followed me. As I closed my
       bit, I told the inmates to really listen to the AA/NA guy. I
       said, "It really works. I still drink, but now I use a different
       name." It is an old Rodney Dangerfield joke. The AA/NA rep was
       highly ticked off. I was just trying to be funny. I have learned
       that not all people appreciate humor. As my youngest daughter
       once said, "Dark humor is not everybody's pot of boiling
       puppies."
       [/quote]
       Haha, i’m Gonna have to talk to you more everywhere I go now!
       You quoted Dangerfield, heck yeah! I’m pretty much always
       laughing at something or thinking of a joke (usually dumb ones).
       Also, If you can’t appreciate inappropriately timed dark humor,
       you can’t appreciate a blind headsman with an anger disorder.
       (Yeah, that’s a dud... lol)
       #Post#: 138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon
       By: patrick jane Date: August 6, 2018, 6:17 am
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       We can give each other Karma !!! I'll let you guys find it.
       #Post#: 139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon
       By: guest5 Date: August 6, 2018, 7:01 am
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=23.msg138#msg138
       date=1533554257]
       We can give each other Karma !!! I'll let you guys find it.
       [/quote]
       Found it! I’m not sure what it does though lol
       #Post#: 148--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon
       By: joechan82 Date: August 6, 2018, 4:53 pm
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       I think karma allows us to rate posters with an up or down vote.
       #Post#: 1084--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon
       By: patrick jane Date: September 22, 2018, 8:32 am
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       [quote author=joechan82 link=topic=23.msg122#msg122
       date=1533525330]
       I'm Joe and I'm a forum-oholic. I am in FA. It really works. I
       go on forums, but I use a different name. When I worked in the
       prison system (on staff, if you please) I had to introduce new
       inmates to Federal Prison Industries. The AA and NA (Narcotics
       Anonymous) representative usually followed me. As I closed my
       bit, I told the inmates to really listen to the AA/NA guy. I
       said, "It really works. I still drink, but now I use a different
       name." It is an old Rodney Dangerfield joke. The AA/NA rep was
       highly ticked off. I was just trying to be funny. I have learned
       that not all people appreciate humor. As my youngest daughter
       once said, "Dark humor is not everybody's pot of boiling
       puppies."
       [/quote]Wow, i missed this or forgot. You went from being a
       Forum - o - holic to hating forums in no time. Was it something
       I said? Did somebody hurt your feelings? Hey, I won't ask you to
       help me with anything here and I don't need money so just post a
       little and get back in the groove brother.
       #Post#: 1093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon
       By: guest13 Date: September 22, 2018, 2:23 pm
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       [quote author=joechan82 link=topic=23.msg122#msg122
       date=1533525330]
       I'm Joe and I'm a forum-oholic. I am in FA. It really works. I
       go on forums, but I use a different name. When I worked in the
       prison system (on staff, if you please) I had to introduce new
       inmates to Federal Prison Industries. The AA and NA (Narcotics
       Anonymous) representative usually followed me. As I closed my
       bit, I told the inmates to really listen to the AA/NA guy. I
       said, "It really works. I still drink, but now I use a different
       name." It is an old Rodney Dangerfield joke. The AA/NA rep was
       highly ticked off. I was just trying to be funny. I have learned
       that not all people appreciate humor. As my youngest daughter
       once said, "Dark humor is not everybody's pot of boiling
       puppies."
       [/quote]
       Bunnies ... boiling bunnies.
       ---------------------------------> Jinkx appreciates dark humor.
       #Post#: 1103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon
       By: guest5 Date: September 22, 2018, 7:50 pm
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       [quote author=Jinkx link=topic=23.msg1093#msg1093
       date=1537644234]
       [quote author=joechan82 link=topic=23.msg122#msg122
       date=1533525330]
       I'm Joe and I'm a forum-oholic. I am in FA. It really works. I
       go on forums, but I use a different name. When I worked in the
       prison system (on staff, if you please) I had to introduce new
       inmates to Federal Prison Industries. The AA and NA (Narcotics
       Anonymous) representative usually followed me. As I closed my
       bit, I told the inmates to really listen to the AA/NA guy. I
       said, "It really works. I still drink, but now I use a different
       name." It is an old Rodney Dangerfield joke. The AA/NA rep was
       highly ticked off. I was just trying to be funny. I have learned
       that not all people appreciate humor. As my youngest daughter
       once said, "Dark humor is not everybody's pot of boiling
       puppies."
       [/quote]
       Bunnies ... boiling bunnies.
       ---------------------------------> Jinkx appreciates dark humor.
       [/quote]
       I would have said kittens, but as a cat owner I know nobody
       likes kittens...
       #Post#: 2435--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon
       By: patrick jane Date: November 22, 2018, 8:12 pm
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       NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR?
       At the Time of the End, the wise shall understand. Dan 12:10
       Understanding the expression "No man knows the day or hour" is
       not possible
       by simply taking the English translation literally, because in
       the book of
       Daniel and the Book of Revelation, we are given EXACT
       descriptions of
       timing, relative to KEY events - such as the shutting down of
       the altar
       sacrifices in Jerusalem at the MID-POINT of the 70th week. Dan
       9:27
       Jesus was asked, "When shall these things be?" Matt 24:3
       His answer ties us in to a very specific event (The Abomination
       of
       Desolation) which can be measured on our calendars: "When you
       therefore
       shall see the Abomination Of Desolation, spoken of by Daniel the
       prophet,
       stand in the holy place, (whoever reads, let him
       understand:)..." Matt 24:15.
       It is now clear that "no man knows the day or hour" does NOT
       mean "no man
       knows the day or hour" as we read it from a modern-day English
       perspective.
       >From his book "Signs In the Heavens" by Avi Ben Mordechai, he
       devotes a
       chapter to explaining what "no man knows the day or hour" truly
       means from
       a rabbinical Hebraic perspective. It is a figure of speech.
       The following chapter contains edited excerpts from Avi Ben
       Mordechai's
       commentaries and builds on them aiming to explain that the Holy
       Bible does
       in fact reveal the "day and hour" or "exact timing" of our
       Lord's Return.
       No One Knows the Day or the Hour?
       Christians over the centuries have separated themselves from
       their Hebraic
       roots causing the misunderstanding of key Jewish biblical
       idioms. An idiom
       is also a figure of speech. When Y'shua (Jesus) uttered His
       famous words
       concerning the Messianic Era in Mattityahu (Matthew) 24:26,
       "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
       Heaven, nor the Son, but
       only the Father", He used a common Jewish figure of speech
       referring to a
       specific Jewish Festival. In essence He was saying, "I am coming
       for My
       Bride on such and such a day! Be watching!" What day could the
       Jewish idiom
       be referring to? Keep reading!
       HEBRAIC ROOTS
       Y'shua HaMashiach (Jesus the Messiah) was Jewish and lived a
       Torah-observant Jewish life. Evidence suggests that He
       communicated to His
       audience in the Hebrew language, in Hebraic ways. What does it
       mean to
       communicate in Hebraic ways?
       It means to think and talk like a Jew. In Y'shua's day it meant
       to speak in the language and idioms of the day.
       Those who heard the Lord speak knew what He was saying and
       usually what He was
       alluding to unless He was speaking in parables, which had their
       own
       analogies. Of course, today's generation of believers struggles
       to
       understand His words and concepts.
       Speaking, thinking and acting like the
       Jewish Rabbi He was helped His mission in bringing the gospel
       message to
       "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matt 15:24).
       Y'shua was quoted in Mattityahu (Matthew) 8:11 as saying: "I say
       to you
       that many will come from the east and the west, and will take
       their places
       at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of
       Heaven".
       Since we are talking about Jewish idioms, have you ever
       considered the meaning of
       these words? Specifically, our Lord used and confirmed common
       Jewish ideas
       about the Day of the Lord - the millennium - and its relation to
       the Feast
       of Sukkot (Tabernacles) in Z'kharyah 14.
       In speaking, Y'shua referred to
       the Festival and its traditional guests of honour, Avraham,
       Yitzchak and
       Ya'acov, called the ushpizin (uoosh-piz-zin) or seven shepherds
       (exalted
       guests), invited into every succah (tabernacle) at the Feast of
       Sukkot in
       the fall of the year.
       The seven shepherds in descending order are
       1. Avraham (Abraham), 2. Yitzchak (Isaac), 3. Ya'acov (Jacob),
       4. Mosheh
       (Moses), 5. Aaron, 6. Yosef (Joseph) and 7. HaMelech David (King
       David).
       By mentioning the feast and three of the seven shepherds,
       His audience
       immediately understood the allusion to the Messianic age -
       "Millennium" or
       "Day" of the Lord.
       "For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost"
       (Luke 19:10).
       Again, in this simplistic phrase Y'shua, the Son of Miriyam and
       Yosef,
       spoke of two things: His Deity (by calling Himself the subject
       of the
       prophet Dani'el's vision) and His mission (by calling Himself
       the One God
       Who spoke to Mosheh on Mount Sinai) as it is written in Dani'el
       and
       Yechezk'el (Ezekiel):
       In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was One like
       a Son of
       Man, coming with the clouds of Heaven. He approached the Ancient
       of Days
       and was led into His presence (Dani'el 7:13-14).
       For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I Myself will search
       for My sheep
       and look after them (Yechezk'el-Ezekiel 34:11ff).
       In the Gospel narrative of Luke 23:31, Y'shua said: "For if men
       do these
       things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?"
       In this
       verse Y'shua points His audience, who had portions of the
       writings of the
       Prophets memorized, to the verses in Yechezk'el (Ezekiel) 20:45
       to 21:7.
       Without question, Y'shua's hearers knew He referred to Chevlei
       HaMashiach
       or Ya'acov's Trouble in the Great Tribulation and warned His
       audience that
       what they do to Him in hardness of heart now, God will do to the
       nation in
       judgement later.
       Y'shua's encounter with Natan'el (Nathanael) is recorded in
       Yochanan (John)
       1:47-48: When Jesus saw Nathanael approaching, He said of him,
       "Here is a
       true Israelite, in whom there is nothing false". "How do You
       know me?"
       Nathanael asked. Jesus answered, "I saw you while you were still
       under the
       fig tree before Philip called you".
       Again, our Lord used a strong figure of speech pointing to a
       widely taught
       Jewish expectation concerning the resurrection and the
       millennium. In
       brief, He told Natan'el that he will be alive on the Last Day to
       inherit
       the land promised to Avraham (Bereshith-Genesis 17:8). From
       Y'shua's words,
       Natan'el understood he would participate in the resurrection
       since "that
       Day" was yet future.
       This is understood in the first century Jewish figure
       of speech, "I saw you while you were still under the fig tree",
       which
       refers to life and study of Torah in the millennium (Midrash
       Rabbah
       Genesis, Rabbah Song of Songs).
       Y'shua also told Natan'el that he is like
       righteous Avraham who received his reward for trusting God. This
       is
       understood because of the phrase, "Here is a true Israelite, in
       whom there
       is nothing false". The millennial concept of the fig tree is
       found
       throughout the Tanach including Z'kharyah 3:10:
       "In that day each of you will invite his neighbor to sit under
       his vine and fig tree", declares the
       LORD Almighty. For this reason Natan'el responded emphatically
       to Y'shua
       and His words, saying: "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; You are
       the King of
       Israel!"
       God through HaMashiach Y'shua spoke to the Jews in many portions
       and in
       many ways (Hebrews 1:1-2) relying upon known figures of speech,
       common
       expectations and direct thoughts from Talmudic and Pharisaic
       teachings. The
       concepts I addressed only scratch the surface, so-to-speak.
       Every phrase
       and word from the mouth of the Lord meant something to His
       audience. He
       spoke with precision. With that as a basis, let us go on to one
       of the most
       interesting Jewish figures of speech misunderstood by the Church
       over the
       years. It concerns Y'shua's phrase,
       "No one knows about that day or hour,
       not even the angels in Heaven, nor the Son, but only the
       Father". In
       context, He refers to the home-taking of His bride, the
       beginning of the
       Messianic era and His millennial reign as King of kings over all
       the earth.
       To understand this concept, we begin by examining its
       foundation.
       ROSH HASHANAH
       Chapter Five described the annual Jewish Festival of Trumpets or
       Rosh
       HaShanah - the first day of the seventh month. A few themes
       linked to this
       Jewish festival are resurrection, repentance, kingship,
       corronation and a
       marriage feast.
       This chapter shows another theme and convincing proof that
       Rosh HaShanah is not only the start of "The Day of the Lord"
       (Millennium),
       but is also the day of the resurrection! It has to do with the
       moon and its
       29-day cycle of renewal.
       In this period of slightly less than 30 days, the moon goes from
       darkness
       to light and back to darkness again. This is not a haphazard
       occurrence
       attributed to evolution or science.
       God planned it for many reasons, one
       being as a picture of resurrection and renewal. With each cycle
       of nearly
       30 days the ancient rabbis understood that the moon was being
       reborn or
       "born again" (Sefard siddur, Mussaf for Shabbat and Shabbat Rosh
       Chodesh,
       p. 509 and 646-648).
       NEW MOON
       In Y'shua's day, the moon was so important that a Jewish
       festival was
       proclaimed at the beginning of every month (Talmud Tractate
       Chaggigah 17b;
       Shavuot 10a; Arachin 10b). This was called the New Moon Festival
       and in the
       B'rit Chadashah, Rabbi Sha'ul (Paul) makes note of it
       (Colossians 2:16).
       Even in the Tanach, King David provoked King Sha'ul (Saul) over
       it (1
       Shmu'el-Samuel 20:5).
       In the coming millennium the gate of the inner court
       of the Temple facing east shall be opened on the new moon
       (Yechezk'el-Ezekiel 46:1).
       And finally in the millennium all nations will
       celebrate the New Moon festival every month (Yeshayahu-Isaiah
       66:23). It is
       obvious from the Hebrew Scriptures that in the millennium God
       has no plans
       to do away with His system.
       Since it is so important, exactly what is a new moon? It is the
       opposite of
       a full moon. Every month the moon goes through a complete cycle
       of renewal
       called Rosh Chodesh, the head or beginning of the renewed month.
       Twelve
       times a year on Rosh Chodesh, the moon always starts off with
       its disk
       being very dark to the naked eye.
       Over the course of 15 days it gets
       brighter and brighter until it finally reaches a full
       white-faced disk or
       full moon. Over the next 15 days it becomes darker and darker
       and finally
       becomes invisible to the naked eye again.
       The ancient rabbis saw a great lesson in this. Just as the moon
       has no
       light of its own but receives its light from the sun, so we too
       have no
       light of our own and must receive it from God.
       As the moon goes through a
       near 30-day cycle of dark to light to dark, so we need constant
       spiritual
       renewal and repentance. Like the moon, we too must be reborn or
       "born
       again" into HaMashiach and constantly renewed through
       repentance. This is
       why God called it a faithful witness in the sky (Mizmor-Psalm
       89:37).
       If the moon is so important to God, why do we pay so little
       attention to
       it? We have lost touch with God's faithful witness in the sky.
       But Y'shua
       and the people of His day never lost touch with it. And as I
       previously
       noted, not only was the new moon necessary for the Jewish
       calendar, it was
       also a monthly festival celebrated with a feast fit for a king!
       So, when
       Y'shua said His famous words in Mattityahu-Matthew 24:36, it had
       far-reaching implications. Here are the words of Y'shua in a few
       different
       translations:
       But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of
       heaven, but
       my Father only. (KJV)
       No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
       heaven, nor the
       Son, but only the Father. (NIV) But of that day and hour knoweth
       no one,
       not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father
       only. (ASV)
       About the exact time, however, and the hour, none knows - not
       even the
       messengers of Heaven; but My Father alone. (Fenton Modern
       English
       Translation)
       Failing to think like Y'shua and taking phrases out of Jewish
       context can
       lead one to misunderstand His words. For example, in many places
       of the
       B'rit Chadashah Y'shua knew the future and talked about it
       openly. In one
       instance He warned His talmidim (disciples) about their future
       saying,
       "See, I have told you ahead of time" (Mattityahu-Matthew 24:25).
       His
       context concerned the tribulation, the destruction of the
       Temple, the rise
       and fall of false messiahs (antichrists), etc.
       If He knew the future in
       Mattityahu 24:25, and the context concerns the Day of Trouble,
       why would He
       suddenly speak as though He did not know the future in the same
       context
       just 11 verses later in Mattityahu 24:36? Was He confused? Or
       was He making
       perfect sense in light of the customs of the Jews?
       Since the subject of our discussion is the new moon and figures
       of speech,
       realize the phrase, "Of that day and hour no man knows" refers
       to the
       sanctification or setting apart of the new moon. Without this
       sanctification, the Jews had no way of determining God's
       "appointed times"
       or moedim.
       Twelve times a year a new Jewish month (Rosh Chodesh) was
       announced to the
       people. We have no system like it today. We look at a calendar
       to determine
       the first of the month; the Jews, however, looked at the moon.
       This system
       of chronology was given to the Jews to know precisely when the
       Holy
       festivals (moedim) would fall (there are still eight of them;
       seven
       appointed times and Shabbat). The moon was the faithful Jewish
       calendar or
       witness in the sky and 12 times a year was sanctified as the
       basis of the
       Jewish stellar calendar.
       GOD'S APPOINTED TIMES
       Because the moon was so important for Jewish date - setting, the
       authorities
       in charge of announcing the new moon in Y'rushalayim took great
       care to
       ensure the first day of the month was announced on time. To
       correctly
       announce the first day of the month, established by the new
       moon, was one
       of the Sanhedrin's greatest responsibilities. They had to ensure
       the people
       knew when the first of the month began 12 times a year!
       Therefore God said
       to the leaders of Israel:
       These are the appointed times of the Lord, holy convocations
       which you
       shall proclaim at the times appointed for them
       (Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:4).
       In other words, God gave the Sanhedrin authority to announce and
       sanctify
       the new moon to the people. Its proclamation on earth was
       supported by God
       in Heaven (c.f. Mattityahu 18:18-20 where the Jewish context
       supports a
       believers' Sanhedrin as seen in Acts 15).
       As soon as the new moon was
       announced, the first day of the month began. Once the beginning
       of the new
       month was established, the festivals and weekly Shabbats for the
       upcoming
       month were sanctified for observance. In Hebrew, those
       observances have
       always been called "appointed  times" or moedim, literally "a
       sacred and
       set time".
       From God's perspective, the appointed times belong to Him
       (Midrash Rabbah Numbers, Vol 2.21.25, p. 852) and no one has the
       authority
       to change the celebration of an appointed time.
       To do so was a serious
       matter and great sin. Appointed times had to be kept because of
       their
       Messianic implications.
       Further in Vayikrah (Leviticus) 23:4, notice the phrase, "holy
       convocation". The phrase in Hebrew is mikraw kodesh, better
       translated,
       "holy convocation and rehearsal". In other words, God's
       appointed times are
       actually "holy rehearsals" set apart to reflect events in the
       Messianic
       era. God said to the people,
       "Pay attention! On this day I am going to do
       something! Wake-up! The Jews were to know and practice all of
       God's mikraot
       or holy convocations. This is the essence of Rav Sha'ul's words
       that the
       Shabbat, new moons and festivals, "are a shadow of things to
       come; the body
       of Mashiach" (Colossians 2:17).
       Twice a year, in the spring and fall, there were several
       appointed times
       and specific days of holy convocation dedicated to the Lord. The
       new moon
       was the key in being able to fulfill those set times, holy
       convocations and
       rehearsals.
       For example, when the new moon was announced on the first day
       of Nisan, also called Aviv, the people knew when to observe the
       holy
       convocations and set times of the 10th (Shemot-Exodus 12:3),
       14th and 15th
       (Shemot-Exodus 12:6; Bamidbar-Numbers 33:3), 16th
       (Vayikrah-Leviticus
       23:15), and finally the 21st.
       In the same way, when the new moon was
       announced on the first day of Tishri also called Ethanim, the
       people knew
       when to observe the Holy convocations of the 1st
       (Vayikrah-Leviticus
       23:23), 10th  (Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:26), 15th
       (Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:39),
       and 22nd  (Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:36).
       Thus from the announcement of the new
       moon to the festival dates which followed, it was only a matter
       of counting
       the right number of days. In a moment you will understand how
       this applies
       to the phrase that Y'shua spoke concerning His coming again.
       THE SANHEDRIN AND THE TWO WITNESSES
       The Mishnah, also referred to as the Oral Law, dealt with the
       legal
       elements of daily Jewish religious life, in Hebrew called
       halachah. In the
       treasure of the first and second century halachah we find many
       explanations
       to help us understand the Torah particularly in Y'shua's day
       since it was
       still oral then.
       In volume two called "moed" or festival, tractate Rosh
       HaShanah teaches us about the Sanhedrin and its selection
       process of two
       witnesses who would tell us when the new moon arrived. Once a
       month the
       Sanhedrin discussed when to proclaim the new moon. They did this
       through
       the agency of two witnesses, the element of all legal
       transactions in
       Judaism.
       One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or
       for any
       sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses,
       or at the
       mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
       Deut 19:15
       The men were important because by their witness, Israel
       celebrated God's
       appointed times. They had to be of good character and were
       always treated
       with great honour.
       They had special privileges such as authorization to
       ride into Y'rushalayim on horseback on the Shabbat to bring the
       good news
       of the new moon festivities! The men had special status because
       they were
       the confirmation that Y'hudah (Judaea)  depended on for the
       correct timing
       of the new month and the festivals.
       Rosh HaShanah Chapter 2, Mishnah 5 reads: There was a large
       court in
       Jerusalem called Beth Ya'azek. There all the witnesses used to
       assemble and
       the Beth Din used to examine them. They used to entertain them
       lavishly
       there so that they should have an inducement to come. (The
       witnesses were
       allowed to break the Shabbat travel restrictions for this one
       purpose lest
       they might be reluctant to come and give the essential evidence
       of the
       sighting of the new moon).
       Continuing in Chapter 2, Mishnah 6: How do they test the
       witnesses? The
       pair who arrive first are tested first. The senior of them is
       brought in
       and they say to him, tell us how you saw the moon - in front of
       the sun or
       behind the sun? To the north of it or the south? How big was it,
       and in
       which direction was it inclined?
       And how broad was it? If he says (he saw
       it) in front of the sun, his evidence is rejected. After that
       they would
       bring in the second and test him.
       If their accounts tallied, their evidence
       was accepted, and the other pairs were only questioned briefly,
       not because
       they were required at all, but so that they should not be
       disappointed,
       (and) so that they should not be dissuaded from coming.
       In qualifying the witnesses, the Sanhedrin used the following
       criteria:
       They never arrived at the same time.
       They were never questioned at the same time.
       There were always two new witnesses each month.
       In short, the two qualified witnesses usually stood before the
       Nassi or
       President of the Sanhedrin (Jewish High Court) to give account
       of the
       moon's appearance prior to its becoming total dark (Moed Rosh
       HaShanah,
       Chapter 3, Mishnah 1).
       Just before the moon's disk enters total darkness,
       there are tiny slivers of white on the edges of the waning disk.
       These were
       called the "horns" of the moon.
       Correctly sighting the "horns" (on the
       waning crescent) determined the beginning of the new month. Once
       the two
       witnesses were qualified and questioned, if the President (who
       had
       knowledge of astronomy) was convinced their observation was
       accurate, he
       publicly sanctified the start of the new month.
       After careful scrutiny to determine the official arrival of the
       new moon,
       the Nassi or President of the Sanhedrin proclaimed Rosh Chodesh
       with the
       words: "Sanctified", and all the people repeat after him,
       "Sanctified,
       sanctified". After the proclamation, the Sanhedrin ordered
       watchmen on the
       nearby hillsides to light fires and thus inform the Jews in all
       of Y'hudah
       (Judaea), Shomron (Samaria), Egypt, Babylon and the galut
       (diaspora) that
       the new month had begun. That started the festival of the New
       Moon and
       counting of the next 29- days to the next new month
       proclamation.
       Again, once the Sanhedrin set Rosh Chodesh, or the beginning of
       the new
       month by sighting the new moon, the rest of the festivals were
       calculated.
       However, the seventh month, Tishri, was particularly important
       because it
       was the only month that had a holy convocation or appointed time
       on the
       first day of the month.
       This posed a unique problem. The first day of
       Tishri was the appointed time called Rosh HaShanah, the Feast of
       Trumpets
       (Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:24). Yet no one could begin observing the
       festival
       until they heard those famous words from the President of the
       Sanhedrin,
       "Sanctified!"
       No one in Israel could plan for the first day of the seventh
       month Tishri,
       called Yom Teruah or the Feast of Trumpets (also called Rosh
       HaShanah).
       When they knew how many days to count to a festival, that would
       be easy.
       But:
       HOW COULD THEY PLAN FOR A FESTIVAL THAT THEY DID NOT KNOW AT
       WHAT DAY OR
       HOUR IT WOULD PUBLICALLY BE ANNOUNCED AND THUS BEGIN?
       This was unique to Rosh HaShanah and dependent upon the
       testimony of the
       two witnesses. Prophetically, we are informed of two important
       witnesses
       during the Great Tribulation:
       And I will give power unto My Two Witnesses, and they will
       prophesy 1260
       days, clothed in sackcloth.
       Rev 11:3
       Of course, anyone could look up into the twilight or early
       morning sky and,
       if they looked hard enough, see the new moon or at least its
       "horns". And
       certainly an astute observer knew when about 29- days were
       completed since
       the previous Rosh Chodesh.
       But recall, ONLY THE SANHEDRIN NASSI had the
       authority to proclaim the first of Tishri, which was already
       established as
       a technical procedure.
       Once proclaimed, the Feast of Trumpets (Rosh
       HaShanah) commenced. Until that public announcement by the
       Nassi, everyone
       had to wait before they could begin the observance of the
       festival. No one
       could begin the festival beforehand!
       Thus, we can more clearly see the
       analogy Jesus made with His words: "But of that day and hour
       knoweth no
       man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" was in
       regards to
       this important festival of Rosh HaShanah.
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