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#Post#: 2101--------------------------------------------------
13 dead in California False Flag
By: Firestarter Date: November 10, 2018, 11:34 am
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It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old
former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black;
he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to
open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.
There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman
opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were
at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.
Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he
was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12
and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on
the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the
gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.
Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress
Syndrome:
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here:
HTML http://archive.is/uztXW)
I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of
being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival
shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal”
circumstances):
HTML https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/
Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in
the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the
Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.
You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos
is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos
survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this
event was killed...
Susan Orfanos told ABC 7: [quote]My son was in Las Vegas with a
lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and [b]I don't want prayers. I
don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any
more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.[/B][/quote]
HTML https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M
The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene
inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really
emotional...
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4
According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last
post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun
rhetoric: [quote]I hope people call me insane… (laughing
emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these
shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’…
every time… and wonder why these keep happening…[/quote]
HTML https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html
Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting,
tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid
on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY
This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
HTML https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k
I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl
(is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when
shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was
inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
HTML https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8
#Post#: 2104--------------------------------------------------
Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
By: guest17 Date: November 10, 2018, 1:38 pm
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[quote author=Firestarter link=topic=222.msg2101#msg2101
date=1541871258]
It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old
former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black;
he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to
open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.
There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman
opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were
at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.
Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he
was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12
and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on
the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the
gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.
Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress
Syndrome:
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here:
HTML http://archive.is/uztXW)
I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of
being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival
shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal”
circumstances):
HTML https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/
Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in
the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the
Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.
You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos
is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos
survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this
event was killed...
Susan Orfanos told ABC 7: [quote]My son was in Las Vegas with a
lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and [b]I don't want prayers. I
don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any
more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.[/B][/quote]
HTML https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M
The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene
inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really
emotional...
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4
According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last
post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun
rhetoric: [quote]I hope people call me insane… (laughing
emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these
shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’…
every time… and wonder why these keep happening…[/quote]
HTML https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html
Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting,
tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid
on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY
This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
HTML https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k
I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl
(is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when
shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was
inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
HTML https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8
[/quote]
It's' always the same scenario. Gun control, gun control, gun
control, gun control. What is the first thing that a dictator
does usually? Takes all the guns from the people of course. I
mean look at the history of dictators. And when I say dictators,
I mean the ones who are really in control
It sounds like this guy was a targeted individual maybe and/or
under mind control. A suicide. Well, I guess he won't live to
tell anything, will he?
#Post#: 2111--------------------------------------------------
Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
By: guest8 Date: November 10, 2018, 7:42 pm
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[quote author=truthjourney link=topic=222.msg2104#msg2104
date=1541878680]
[quote author=Firestarter link=topic=222.msg2101#msg2101
date=1541871258]
It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old
former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black;
he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to
open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.
There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman
opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were
at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.
Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he
was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12
and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on
the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the
gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.
Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress
Syndrome:
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here:
HTML http://archive.is/uztXW)
I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of
being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival
shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal”
circumstances):
HTML https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/
Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in
the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the
Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.
You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos
is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos
survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this
event was killed...
Susan Orfanos told ABC 7: [quote]My son was in Las Vegas with a
lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and [b]I don't want prayers. I
don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any
more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.[/B][/quote]
HTML https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M
The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene
inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really
emotional...
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4
According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last
post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun
rhetoric: [quote]I hope people call me insane… (laughing
emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these
shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’…
every time… and wonder why these keep happening…[/quote]
HTML https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html
Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting,
tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid
on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY
This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
HTML https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k
I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl
(is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when
shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was
inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
HTML https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8
[/quote]
It's' always the same scenario. Gun control, gun control, gun
control, gun control. What is the first thing that a dictator
does usually? Takes all the guns from the people of course. I
mean look at the history of dictators. And when I say dictators,
I mean the ones who are really in control
It sounds like this guy was a targeted individual maybe and/or
under mind control. A suicide. Well, I guess he won't live to
tell anything, will he?
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Just watching and waiting for all hell to
break loose. It is just a matter of time as the US is not
mentioned in the Bible (except in a passing statement) and that
is odd since we are the only superpower on earth at this time.
Something brings us down real quick....Any guesses? I got one
but I want to here all the others.
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 2113--------------------------------------------------
Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
By: guest17 Date: November 10, 2018, 9:00 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=222.msg2111#msg2111
date=1541900520]
[quote author=truthjourney link=topic=222.msg2104#msg2104
date=1541878680]
[quote author=Firestarter link=topic=222.msg2101#msg2101
date=1541871258]
It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old
former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black;
he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to
open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.
There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman
opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were
at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.
Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he
was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12
and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on
the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the
gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.
Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress
Syndrome:
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here:
HTML http://archive.is/uztXW)
I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of
being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival
shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal”
circumstances):
HTML https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/
Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in
the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the
Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.
You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos
is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos
survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this
event was killed...
Susan Orfanos told ABC 7: [quote]My son was in Las Vegas with a
lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and [b]I don't want prayers. I
don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any
more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.[/B][/quote]
HTML https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M
The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene
inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really
emotional...
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4
According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last
post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun
rhetoric: [quote]I hope people call me insane… (laughing
emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these
shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’…
every time… and wonder why these keep happening…[/quote]
HTML https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html
Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting,
tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid
on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY
This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
HTML https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k
I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl
(is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when
shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was
inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
HTML https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8
[/quote]
It's' always the same scenario. Gun control, gun control, gun
control, gun control. What is the first thing that a dictator
does usually? Takes all the guns from the people of course. I
mean look at the history of dictators. And when I say dictators,
I mean the ones who are really in control
It sounds like this guy was a targeted individual maybe and/or
under mind control. A suicide. Well, I guess he won't live to
tell anything, will he?
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Just watching and waiting for all hell to
break loose. It is just a matter of time as the US is not
mentioned in the Bible (except in a passing statement) and that
is odd since we are the only superpower on earth at this time.
Something brings us down real quick....Any guesses? I got one
but I want to here all the others.
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
Well, it's already happening and has been for a long time. There
are some very evil people who want to decrease the population by
whatever means is necessary. They have the technology and
manpower to do that. They want total control over people. There
are millions of people under attack who don't know what is
attacking them. They want a lot of people to die. They really do
and they don't care and have no mercy.
People are being so divided and turned against each other that
they don't even see it coming. And that's the way it has been
planned to be. People need to stand together as one but I don't
think that's going to happen. People are being so manipulated
and even mind controlled and tortured and they don't even have
a clue what's really going on. Because this is all mostly
covert. But it is clear to me that it is being driven by evil
forces. It is really spiritual warfare.
All I can say is that we better pray hard against this evil and
darkness or it will consume us. Only God can stop it and he will
at the appointed time. We don't know when that time will be.
Only God knows.
#Post#: 2152--------------------------------------------------
Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
By: Firestarter Date: November 12, 2018, 12:15 pm
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[quote author=truthjourney link=topic=222.msg2113#msg2113
date=1541905227]All I can say is that we better pray hard
against this evil and darkness or it will consume us. Only God
can stop it and he will at the appointed time. We don't know
when that time will be. Only God knows.[/quote] I DO hope (maybe
against my better judgement) that "we" could do something
against a system that protects the big criminals...
[quote author=truthjourney link=topic=222.msg2113#msg2113
date=1541905227]People are being so divided and turned against
each other that they don't even see it coming. And that's the
way it has been planned to be. People need to stand together as
one but I don't think that's going to happen. People are being
so manipulated and even mind controlled and tortured and they
don't even have a clue what's really going on. Because this is
all mostly covert. But it is clear to me that it is being driven
by evil forces. It is really spiritual warfare.[/quote] It is
hard to miss that after every “mass shooting” there is the call
for gun control and forced psychiatric treatment!
An American once tried to explain to me why they have the “right
to bear arms” in their constitution. It’s so they could
theoretically fight if their government gets out of line.
I’m not sure that I understand, I have never been a fan of guns,
but I found his arguments too strong to contradict him.
The actor and gun owner Ashton Kutcher has spoken out about the
need for stricter gun laws.
To make his argument appear stronger, Kutcher has told the world
that his wife, Mila Kunis, threw him a birthday party earlier
this year at the Borderline Bar. Where and when Kutcher was
gifted a gun in the parking lot.
Maybe suspicious or at the very least strange?
Ashton Kutcher is really, really reliable as he is a good friend
of Joshua Kushner, brother of Jared:
HTML https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/11/09/ashton-kutcher-had-birthday-thousand-oaks-shooting-bar-borderline-mila-kunis/1942562002/
In addition to calling for forced psychiatric treatment and gun
control in a series of tweets, Kutcher called on the
sister-in-law of his friend Joshua Kushner, Ivanka (Donald’s
daughter) to take action: [quote]@IvankaTrump your brother in
law was at that birthday party. He could have just as easily
been a victim. You go to synagogues you could be a victim! Talk
to your dad! Plead with your dad! Let this be your legacy! Gun
Reform now![/quote]
HTML https://twitter.com/aplusk/status/1060717319825969152
#Post#: 2154--------------------------------------------------
Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
By: Theo102 Date: November 12, 2018, 1:14 pm
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[quote author=truthjourney link=topic=222.msg2113#msg2113
date=1541905227]
People are being so divided and turned against each other that
they don't even see it coming. And that's the way it has been
planned to be. People need to stand together as one but I don't
think that's going to happen. People are being so manipulated
and even mind controlled and tortured and they don't even have
a clue what's really going on. Because this is all mostly
covert. But it is clear to me that it is being driven by evil
forces. It is really spiritual warfare.
[/quote]
Where we go one we go all is a mantra of universalism. The
descendants of Jacob are set-apart from other people.
HTML http://torah.clonehost.net/pages/paul.html#s9
#Post#: 2158--------------------------------------------------
Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
By: guest17 Date: November 12, 2018, 11:13 pm
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[quote author=Theo102 link=topic=222.msg2154#msg2154
date=1542050072]
[quote author=truthjourney link=topic=222.msg2113#msg2113
date=1541905227]
People are being so divided and turned against each other that
they don't even see it coming. And that's the way it has been
planned to be. People need to stand together as one but I don't
think that's going to happen. People are being so manipulated
and even mind controlled and tortured and they don't even have
a clue what's really going on. Because this is all mostly
covert. But it is clear to me that it is being driven by evil
forces. It is really spiritual warfare.
[/quote]
Where we go one we go all is a mantra of universalism. The
descendants of Jacob are set-apart from other people.
HTML http://torah.clonehost.net/pages/paul.html#s9
[/quote]
Chaos, division, hate, racism, etc. that we see going on is a
divide and conquer strategy. United we stand, divided we fall.
#Post#: 2166--------------------------------------------------
Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
By: Firestarter Date: November 13, 2018, 11:27 am
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I still haven’t found a single picture, video of the injuries.
I also searched in vain for videos of the brave people in the
Borderline Bar smashing the windows and jumping from the second
floor.
[quote]We heard shots, I looked up and knew exactly what was
happening. I tried to pull down as many people as I could," he
said. "As soon as we heard a break in the shooting we knew he
was reloading and we threw a couple of bar stools through the
closest to us so we could get out.[/quote]
The police, have "[I]had several contacts with Mr. Long over the
years for minor offenses[/I]".
In 2015, the supposed mass shooter Ian Long was the victim of
assault and battery.
They “cleared” him after mental health specialists evaluated
him:
HTML https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-08/12-killed-mass-shooting-california-country-bar
#Post#: 2336--------------------------------------------------
Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
By: Firestarter Date: November 19, 2018, 10:25 am
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Alaina Housley is one of the reported victims of this “mass
shooting”.
In one of those strange coincidences, Alaina is the niece Adam
Housley.
Since 1999, Adam Housley has been a star reporter for the Fox
Channel of Jared Kushner’s friend Rupert Murdoch.
In another strange twist, Adam Housley was one of the first
reporters for the December 2015 terrorist attack in San
Bernardino. He and his crew obtained exclusive video of the
shootout that ended with the gunmen shot and killed by the cops:
HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Housley
Since 2011, Adam Housley is married to actress Tamera Darvette
Mowry-Housley.
Tamera first gained fame for her teen role in the ABC sitcom
“Sister, Sister” (with her twin sister Tia Mowry). She also
starred in the Disney Movies “Twitches” and “Twitches Too”.
Since July 2013, Tamara is one of the hosts of “The Real” talk
show.
She was born in Germany; both of her American parents were
stationed there for the US army:
HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamera_Mowry
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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
By: patrick jane Date: April 9, 2019, 12:40 pm
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[quote author=Firestarter link=topic=222.msg2336#msg2336
date=1542644744]
Alaina Housley is one of the reported victims of this “mass
shooting”.
In one of those strange coincidences, Alaina is the niece Adam
Housley.
Since 1999, Adam Housley has been a star reporter for the Fox
Channel of Jared Kushner’s friend Rupert Murdoch.
In another strange twist, Adam Housley was one of the first
reporters for the December 2015 terrorist attack in San
Bernardino. He and his crew obtained exclusive video of the
shootout that ended with the gunmen shot and killed by the cops:
HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Housley
Since 2011, Adam Housley is married to actress Tamera Darvette
Mowry-Housley.
Tamera first gained fame for her teen role in the ABC sitcom
“Sister, Sister” (with her twin sister Tia Mowry). She also
starred in the Disney Movies “Twitches” and “Twitches Too”.
Since July 2013, Tamara is one of the hosts of “The Real” talk
show.
She was born in Germany; both of her American parents were
stationed there for the US army:
HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamera_Mowry
[/quote]Hello sir. I like you no matter what you think of me.
You do not know me although it seems you think you do. Please
lay off the insults as I've never said that your posts are fake
but the Koran is fake. I don't want it on my forum, please
understand. I hope to see you back here brother, btw, I'm 50 and
retired, 32 years in Auto Parts and life experience. . . plus
the other 18 years, hah !!! Peace.
Sincerely, Mark
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