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Tyndale's Translation of Oikonomia and Dispensationalism's Clai
m of New Testament Authority For Dis
By: bernardpyron Date: November 9, 2018, 3:13 pm
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Tyndale's Translation of Oikonomia and Dispensationalism's
Claim of New Testament Authority For Dispensations
See:
HTML https://craigcfisher.wordpress.com/2014/11/20/353/
"Ephesians 3: 2: "If netheles ye han herd the dispensacioun of
Godd is grace, that is youun to me in you."
This is from Wycliffe’s Bible, of about 1382, which is a
Catholic English translation of the Latin Vulgate New Testament.
"The English word dispensation or Old English dispensacioun is
from the Latin dispensatio."
From:
HTML https://studybible.inf
o/MSTC/Colossians
Tyndale Bible in Modern English:
See:
HTML http://www.themoorings.org/doctrine/...rsions/WH.htm
"It will be seen that in these nine chapters more than 83% of
the words in the Geneva Version were taken direct from Tyndale,
and more than 81% of the words in the King James Version. I
believe this sample is statistically valid for the whole New
Testament." Tyndale's accuracy in translating the Textus
Receptus into English is shown in the use of his English word
choices and sentence structures by the committees that created
the Geneva Bible and the King James Version."
I Corinthians 9: 17: "If I do it with a good will, I have a
reward. But if I do it against my will, an office is committed
unto me."
Tyndale translates oikonomia as Office
Ephesians 1: 9-10: "And hath opened unto us the mystery of his
will according to his pleasure, and purposed 10 the same in
himself to have it declared when the time were full come: that
all things, both the things which are in heaven, and also the
things which are in earth, should be gathered together, even in
Christ."
I am not sure which English word for Tyndale's translation of
Ephesians 1: 10. It might be time for oikonomia.
Ephesians 3: 2-5: " If ye have heard of the ministration of the
grace of God which is given me to you ward - 3 For by revelation
showed he this mystery unto me, as I wrote above in few words, 4
whereby, when ye read ye may know mine understanding in the
mystery of Christ, 5 which mystery in times past was not opened
unto the sons of men as it is now declared unto his holy
apostles and prophets by the spirit:"
Ministration is the Tyndale translation of oikonomia.
Colossians 1: 24-26: "Now joy I in my sufferings which I suffer,
for you; and fulfill that which is behind of the passions of
Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the
congregation - 25 whereof am I made a minister according to the
ordinance of God, which ordinance was given me unto you ward, to
fulfill the word of God: 26 that mystery, hid since the world
began, and since the beginning of generations: But now is opened
to his saints,"
Ordinance is the Tyndale translation of oikonomia here.
Tyndale broke with the Catholic Wycliffe translation of
oikonomia as dispensation.
Remember that Tyndale does not use a consistent translation of
oikonomia, but uses office, ministration and ordinance.
From Wycliffe’s Bible, of about 1382, which is a Catholic
English translation of the Latin Vulgate New Testament, "The
English word dispensation or Old English dispensacioun is from
the Latin dispensatio."
Just as the Wycliffe Catholic English Bible of 1382 translated
ekklesia as chirche (in old English spelling), and
Tyndale broke from the Catholic translation of ekklesia and used
congregation consistently, so Tyndale did not follow the
Catholic translation of oikonomia as "dispensation." This is
interesting.
It does not support the argument of dispensationalism that the
New Testament itself supports the foundation of the church
theology called dispensationalism - in the meanings of
oikonomia.
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Re: Tyndale's Translation of Oikonomia and Dispensationalism's
Claim of New Testament Authority For
By: patrick jane Date: August 28, 2020, 3:12 pm
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Interesting
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Re: Tyndale's Translation of Oikonomia and Dispensationalism's
Claim of New Testament Authority For
By: patrick jane Date: August 28, 2020, 3:29 pm
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yes
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Re: Tyndale's Translation of Oikonomia and Dispensationalism's
Claim of New Testament Authority For
By: patrick jane Date: October 29, 2020, 1:40 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=221.msg16774#msg16774
date=1598646577]
yes
[/quote] ;D
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