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#Post#: 77--------------------------------------------------
How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: guest5
Date: August 4, 2018, 8:30 pm
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I was wondering this about others today. I’m Closest to an open
view because I chose to try and strip as close to bare bones as
I could when I came back to God. I wanted to learn as if I knew
nothing except basic morality, and the Love of God through
Christ and the Spirit. Because everything the local churches had
been (while I ran from God) was more biased toward politics and
focusing more on condemnation of others, than it was about
showing others how to come to Christ. I’m really in the
beginning stages of learning and most of my study is on my own
while I pray to understand necessary passages in God’s own time.
I also study on another forum that I like because there are a
variety of different viewpoints presented and I feel that it
reminds me to cut my own bias and assumptions from my studies.
#Post#: 88--------------------------------------------------
Re: How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: August 5, 2018, 1:44 am
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--- Quote from: Jon Wood link ---
>
> I was wondering this about others today. I’m Closest to an
open view because I chose to try and strip as close to bare
bones as I could when I came back to God. I wanted to learn as
if I knew nothing except basic morality, and the Love of God
through Christ and the Spirit. Because everything the local
churches had been (while I ran from God) was more biased toward
politics and focusing more on condemnation of others, than it
was about showing others how to come to Christ. I’m really in
the beginning stages of learning and most of my study is on my
own while I pray to understand necessary passages in God’s own
time. I also study on another forum that I like because there
are a variety of different viewpoints presented and I feel that
it reminds me to cut my own bias and assumptions from my
studies.
>
--- End Quote ---
I imagine many people don't have one, Jon. I will share mine
shortly.
#Post#: 92--------------------------------------------------
Re: How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: guest5
Date: August 5, 2018, 9:08 am
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Lol, I didn’t think about that PJ. I forgot it’s a fairly new
place lol.
#Post#: 93--------------------------------------------------
Re: How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: August 5, 2018, 9:57 am
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I wasn't correcting you just pointing out. Even at Theology
Forums, our home forum, I've seen many people put "I dunno" or
none or other things. For me, I was in limbo for decades, just
all about me me me and what's in it for me. So, as a small kid,
I knew and believed in Jesus Christ as my Saviour and I was in
Catholic school until the middle of fourth grade.
Transferring to Public School I was far ahead of the new fellow
students in many subjects. I never completed my "confirmation"
as a young Catholic but for the next 30 years I would tell
people I'm Catholic while only have a 4th grade understanding.
Although schools in that system were further ahead I tested at a
9th grade vocabulary in 3rd grade.
BTW, this forum is kinda fun when you start getting used to it.
You guys are all Mods with lots of permissions.
So then, comes Junior High and High School and all I did was
smoke pot. I didn't want girlfriends but had some anyway. All I
wanted was weed and my friends to cruise with and hang out with.
I never finished my Junior year and got a GED. One full year of
college and then stayed in the workforce and necer went back to
school. Still could I suppose.
Then I got a NIV Study Bible for my birthday from my cousin
Sharon and browsed through it from time to time for 3 years. I
never got into the NIV but I really did enjoy reading it and
having all of the study notes and commentary. I started to read
the commentaries more than the scriptures. Relying on the NIV
interpretations. It didn't feel right.
In about 2011 a let a friend stay with me who had just survived
the Joplin MO tornado that destroyed everything including his
place. He stayed for 3 months and did things for me like stain
the whole deck in one day by himself, 2 or 3 coats. Surprised me
and I felt guilty but thankful. My best friend. Perhaps he left
the small KJV Red letter NT Bible there for me. It was in the
open and he took everything else.
I let that sit for 2 years and never really opened it, just
looked at it. Out of maybe boredom or frustration with my
spiritual state I opened it. It was easy to read because it red
letter and small. Leather and comfortable to hold. I felt really
good reading it and the words came alive. I understood what I
was reading. After Matthew Mark Luke and John a few times I read
Acts a few times. Then Romans blew me away until I got to 1 &
Corinthians and Ephesians, Philippians Galatians Thessalonians,
Timothy !!!
I couldn't believe what I was understanding. I was wrong for so
long. Then I decide to get on the internet and I was a novice.
I think I Googled - deep thought - and some theology came up. I
saw theologyonline and joined. At this point I was a huge
follower of Paul's epistles and the revelations given to him by
the risen ascended Lord Jesus Christ.
I studied with the MAD gang and over 3 years there I firmly
established my theology and doctrine. I know very little and
learn everyday. But the wisdom and spiritual understanding I've
been given by God is enough for me to know that I am saved and
sealed with that holy spirit of promise, I have an inheritance
and I'm a purchased possession, redeemed. Believing and trusting
in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ
seals us. We are saved by the death, the blood of Christ. By
grace, which was revealed to Paul first.
That's where the debate comes with my theology because most want
to follow Peter. I don't mind debating but I like reading and
talking about it much more.
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#Post#: 95--------------------------------------------------
Re: How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: guest5
Date: August 5, 2018, 11:48 am
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I knew you weren’t trying to correct me PJ lol, I think I got
used to everybody being set in their ways over there. This topic
would probably get more hits over there too, but it doesn’t
really seem to fit the mood over there right now. I never knew
that you had any Catholic experience, all i’ve Ever been around
is Baptists and agnostics lol. But yeah, I took up sort of a
primitive version of Open View because, it felt the closest to
studying like I had never heard anyone’s influence but God.
Though, I still kept a belief in some basic things because, I
guess they just feel right and honest and true, if anyone gets
what I mean.
#Post#: 96--------------------------------------------------
Re: How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: August 5, 2018, 11:57 am
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--- Quote from: Jon Wood link ---
>
> I was wondering this about others today. I’m Closest to an
open view because I chose to try and strip as close to bare
bones as I could when I came back to God. I wanted to learn as
if I knew nothing except basic morality, and the Love of God
through Christ and the Spirit. Because everything the local
churches had been (while I ran from God) was more biased toward
politics and focusing more on condemnation of others, than it
was about showing others how to come to Christ. I’m really in
the beginning stages of learning and most of my study is on my
own while I pray to understand necessary passages in God’s own
time. I also study on another forum that I like because there
are a variety of different viewpoints presented and I feel that
it reminds me to cut my own bias and assumptions from my
studies.
>
--- End Quote ---
Is that other forum the great and outstanding
[glow=red,2,300]Theology Forums[/glow]? If it's another that's
great too. You're still young and my understanding didn't kick
in until later on but that was my fault for ignoring God. You
have the time and the desire to learn and you have a big brain
("check out the big brain on Brad").
You are a blessing to us at theologyforums.com - Everybody is.
#Post#: 99--------------------------------------------------
Re: How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: guest5
Date: August 5, 2018, 12:48 pm
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Of course I’m talking about Theology Forums!
#Post#: 106--------------------------------------------------
Re: How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: Scotty
Date: August 5, 2018, 3:31 pm
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PJ what is MAD? I saw you say that you spent three years there.
#Post#: 108--------------------------------------------------
Re: How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: August 5, 2018, 6:22 pm
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--- Quote from: Scotty link ---
>
> PJ what is MAD? I saw you say that you spent three years
there.
>
--- End Quote ---
It stand for Mid Acts Dispensation. Theologians are scared of us
because we rightly divide the word of truth. Hah !!! Tambora is
MAD and Crow and Bladerunner and a couple others - Many at TOL
are and that's where I was fore 3.5 years before coming here.
It's called Theology Online and they started in 1997. It simply
consists of knowing that several things changed in the middle of
the book of Acts, a very difficult book to know.
I have the thread here and at TF that teaches Paul's doctrine
which the only doctrine by which we are saved. The Bible says
that, not me. The thread is called Salvation, Doctrine and
Rightly Dividing and I post lessons from my favorite pastor at a
grace bible study church in Indiana. MADs rarely lose a debate
on scripture. You could read one post a day and learn more than
me trying to explain.
Same with FE, start on page one of the 80 page thread on TF or
start fresh on the thread here. You don't have to bear down and
study like for a test, but it will all start to sink in. If not,
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#Post#: 142--------------------------------------------------
Re: How did you arrive at your current Theological stance?
DIR By: Scotty
Date: August 6, 2018, 10:43 am
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I love to Study and Paul most certainly is the Apostle for us
gentiles :] I agree, I will look into this deeper.
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