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Re: Biblical Enclosed Flat Earth and Cosmos
By: patrick jane Date: August 8, 2018, 10:36 am
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[size=10pt][size=12pt]This is a post by Gleason92 from Theology
Forums, the Big Forum that I run. This post is just a glimpse of
his expertise in debating this extremely important topic. I'm
not even close to his level and he may post here once a month or
more, God willing. This is a response from Gleason 92 to a
typical "highly" educated (self professed on the interwebnet),
FE Troll.
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Xenn, stand in any hotel hallway, any one, but avoid the super
8s, I learned the hardway a few years back, you get what you pay
for.
Standing in the hallway and looking straight to the other end
you will notice all the wall lights slightly descending. Follow
that perspective logically and the bottom begins to disappear
first the further away the light is from the viewer on a flat
path. Simple.
8 inches per mile squared is you spherical "curvature gradient",
it doesn't change on a ball (and no we're not talking about
elevation gradient so save the mountains), pick any one of the
infinite points and from that starting point, it's 8 inches per
mile squared in any direction; if that cannot be empirically
supported, you could be Stephen Hawking trying to convince
readers of sphericity to this plane and you'd still be just as
wrong.
Xenn, are you the one or interplanner carrying on about the
meteor showers? So the point of contention is that due to
observable phenomena related to the Perseid shower we can
confidently assert the Earth is a sphere traveling through
space, revolving around the sun in full once a year, yet every
August we pass through this asteroid belt which causes
observable phenomena in our skies?
Ps-i almost forgot, we need "credentials" to engage in the
discussion, so here's mine. I dropped out of elementary school
after first grade. Unfortunately, I can't read or write. So as a
result, I use a proxy in my stead to work a computer, read me
the comments and dictate my replies back. But I'll put my almost
completed first grade education up against your PhD any day when
it comes to empirical support of curvature and any actual space
imagery that makes sense and includes the objects claimed to
exist "up there" and "on Earth", like polar caps or accurately
sized continents.
You keep throwing this term gravity around like it's settled (I
have a few anthropomorphic helium balloons that may disagree
with your assertions) Ok, so let's clear the gravity waves and
establish what it is before we point to it as some sort of
"proof". I think that's only fair.
So, Scientifically Validate 'gravity', i.e.
1. What Phenomenon was Observed...?
2. Post the Formal Scientific Hypothesis then EXPERIMENT that
validates your claim...?
3. Highlight the "Independent Variable" that was used in the
TEST...?
4. Post the Null Hypothesis that was Rejected/Falsified...?
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Re: Biblical Enclosed Flat Earth and Cosmos
By: patrick jane Date: August 15, 2018, 8:52 pm
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Just an update. I have a lot to cover with this subject and
hopefully the first dozen posts give a good overview of Biblical
Flat Earth. I haven't gotten to the scriptures yest but I will.
Please look at the post at the top of this page also.
The biggest question people have and the biggest reason they
will not research flat earth is because they think millions or
at least tens of thousands of people would have to be "in on it"
- Not so. Only 24 people are alleged to have ever been high
enough to see a globe from space. Most are deceased. 24 people
and whoever might have seen REAL ACTUAL IMAGES.
Conspiracies work on levels, layers. Like an onion. Everybody
already believes in a globe so it's not hard to keep something a
secret. Pilots don't goe high enough, satellite employees and
contractors each do individual things with no knowledge of what
they do in fake space.
The calculations and specifications are set to a globe because
that's how they set them. They can easily use the same
mathematics in flat earth. They don't know. GPS employees and
Direct TV employees don't know. None of the above mentioned
people CAN know.
So who is left? Lifetime appointed military and intelligence
people and very few I would imagine. No temporary employee
politicians will ever know. Trump has no clue. Perhaps certain
world leaders and powerful men have know.
Even Einstein had no clue. No picture until 1972 and that's the
ONLY one. Make sense? The point is that this is NOT a massive
conspiracy involving millions of people that either lie or are
just to stupid to know they are being duped.
Think about this. The globe only exists in your mind. No real
images exist. Cartoons. CGI. Photo Shop. Artist drawings.
Digital Creations. Outer Space is only in the movies and TV. You
have NEVER seen it but by looking at the sky. Billions of people
are in love with fake space pictures and propaganda. The globe
in only in your imagination.
Imagine that the Holy Bible is true and that we are the center
and focus of God's creation. We are in an enclosed flat earth
and cosmos with a dome firmament above. Exactly like the Bible
says. If you research the history of the occult and how it
became science and the history of controlled cosmology and all
of the numerous connections you'll see what I see. 8 months so
far.
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Re: Biblical Enclosed Flat Earth and Cosmos
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Re: Biblical Enclosed Flat Earth and Cosmos
By: patrick jane Date: September 9, 2018, 4:58 pm
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Journey to the Center of the Flat Earth | North Pole Hidden Land
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[shadow=red,left]Many ancient cultures shared similar beliefs in
a sacred place at the north pole, often described as a
harmonious paradise. The Norse would call it Agartha. For Hindus
it's referred to as Paradesha. The Greeks knew it as Hyperborea.
The Celtics called it Avalon. Buddhists call it Shambhala and in
the Bible, it's refered to as the Garden of Eden.
That's just a few of the names. In fact, this place has been
dubbed the land of a thousand names. At the center of this
paradise is the axis mundi (also called the cosmic axis, world
axis, world pillar, center of the world and world tree).
This is said to be the connection between Heaven and Earth. In
Norse mythology we have yggdrasil which is the tree of life.
Known as Mount Meru in Buddhist, Jain and Hindu cosmology. It's
a central world mountain that reaches high into the heavens and
resting above it is the north star. Join me as we take a journey
to the center of the earth.
We will be going over ancient myths, if you want to call them
that, and cosmologies, old maps including the Mercator map of
the arctic that showed hidden land, and movies that depict
worlds beyond the north pole, including the new Stephen King
movie 'The Dark Tower', which depicts a dark tower at the center
of the universe that is very similar to the north pole rupes
nigra aka black rock.
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This may rightly be considered to be the world's first specific
map of the North Pole. Mercator later reissued this map in an
expanded format for his 1595 atlas. Following a number of
important expeditions to the Arctic in subsequent 10 years,
Mercator's successor Jodocus Hondius reissued the original 1595
map with a number of revolutionary and highly significant
changes.
Our survey of this map must naturally being with the North Pole
itself which Mercator envisions as a large black rock, the Rupes
Nigra, surrounded by a great whirlpool into which four powerful
rapid rivers flow. These rivers divide a massive continent-sized
landmass into four distinct islands or countries.
In the midst of the four countries is a Whirl-pool, into which
there empty these four indrawing Seas which divide the North.
And the water rushes round and descends into the Earth just as
if one were pouring it through a filter funnel. It is four
degrees wide on every side of the Pole, that is to say eight
degrees altogether. Except that right under the Pole there lies
a bare Rock in the midst of the Sea. Its circumference is almost
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Re: Biblical Enclosed Flat Earth and Cosmos
By: patrick jane Date: September 13, 2018, 12:35 pm
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Re: Biblical Enclosed Flat Earth and Cosmos
By: patrick jane Date: September 20, 2018, 3:16 am
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Is Flat Earth a Controlled Leak? B.o.B, Hollywood, the CIA &
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Is flat earth being pushed out into the consciousness of the
masses on purpose? Maybe it is. It's something I always wonder.
I always wonder what we can actually do and at times it seems
like there's nothing we can do. We've been on lock down since
the beginning of time from what I gather. Either way the earth
is flat and motionless. We will be going over B.o.B, the CIA,
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Re: Biblical Enclosed Flat Earth and Cosmos
By: patrick jane Date: September 22, 2018, 7:44 pm
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[size=12pt][size=14pt]Joshua 10:12-14 KJV - [/size][/size]
Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered
up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in
the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and
thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the
people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this
written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the
midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that
the Lord hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the Lord fought
for Israel.
Psalm 19 King James Version (KJV)
19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament
sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth
knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not
heard.
4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words
to the end of the world. In them [size=14pt]hath he set a
tabernacle for the sun,
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and
rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit
unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat
thereof.
7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the
testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the
commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the
judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine
gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of
them there is great reward.
12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret
faults.
13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them
not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall
be innocent from the great transgression.
14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be
acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.
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Re: Biblical Enclosed Flat Earth and Cosmos
By: patrick jane Date: September 22, 2018, 7:53 pm
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Job 9 King James Version (KJV)
1 Then Job answered and said,
2 I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with
God?
3 If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a
thousand.
4 He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened
himself against him, and hath prospered?
5 Which removeth the mountains, and they know not: which
overturneth them in his anger.
6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars
thereof tremble.
7 [size=14pt]Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and
sealeth up the stars.
8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the
waves of the sea.
9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and [i]the
chambers of the south.[/i]
10 Which doeth great things past finding out; yea, and wonders
without number.
11 Lo, he goeth by me, and I see him not: he passeth on also,
but I perceive him not.
12 Behold, he taketh away, who can hinder him? who will say unto
him, What doest thou?
13 If God will not withdraw his anger, the proud helpers do
stoop under him.
14 How much less shall I answer him, and choose out my words to
reason with him?
15 Whom, though I were righteous, yet would I not answer, but I
would make supplication to my judge.
16 If I had called, and he had answered me; yet would I not
believe that he had hearkened unto my voice.
17 For he breaketh me with a tempest, and multiplieth my wounds
without cause.
18 He will not suffer me to take my breath, but filleth me with
bitterness.
19 If I speak of strength, lo, he is strong: and if of judgment,
who shall set me a time to plead?
20 If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I
say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse.
21 Though I were perfect, yet would I not know my soul: I would
despise my life.
22 This is one thing, therefore I said it, He destroyeth the
perfect and the wicked.
23 If the scourge slay suddenly, he will laugh at the trial of
the innocent.
24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth
the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?
25 Now my days are swifter than a post: they flee away, they see
no good.
26 They are passed away as the swift ships: as the eagle that
hasteth to the prey.
27 If I say, I will forget my complaint, I will leave off my
heaviness, and comfort myself:
28 I am afraid of all my sorrows, I know that thou wilt not hold
me innocent.
29 If I be wicked, why then labour I in vain?
30 If I wash myself with snow water, and make my hands never so
clean;
31 Yet shalt thou plunge me in the ditch, and mine own clothes
shall abhor me.
32 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and
we should come together in judgment.
33 Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his
hand upon us both.
34 Let him take his rod away from me, and let not his fear
terrify me:
35 Then would I speak, and not fear him; but it is not so with
me.
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Job 26 King James Version (KJV)
1 But Job answered and said,
2 How hast thou helped him that is without power? how savest
thou the arm that hath no strength?
3 How hast thou counselled him that hath no wisdom? and how hast
thou plentifully declared the thing as it is?
4 To whom hast thou uttered words? and whose spirit came from
thee?
5 Dead things are formed from under the waters, and the
inhabitants thereof.
6 Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering.
7 [size=14pt]He stretcheth out the north over the empty place,
and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
8 He bindeth up the waters in his thick clouds; and the cloud is
not rent under them.
9 He holdeth back the face of his throne, and spreadeth his
cloud upon it.
10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and
night come to an end.
11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his
reproof.[/size]
12 He divideth the sea with his power, and by his understanding
he smiteth through the proud.
13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath
formed the crooked serpent.
14 Lo, these are parts of his ways: but how little a portion is
heard of him? but the thunder of his power who can understand?
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[size=18pt]ELITE SPACE ROCKETS AND ESCAPING THE FIRMAMENT[/size]
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Sending Thor to Smash the Firmament?
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