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       #Post#: 8935--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: guest8 Date: November 24, 2019, 6:57 pm
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       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8921#msg8921
       date=1574536581]
       JW Elders Treatment of Preacher at Watchtower Convention 2018
       Jehovah's Witness Convention, San Diego, 2018. Unedited clip of
       JW Elders practicing this years motto, "Be Courageous".
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ex0jwDDTzU
       [/quote]
       people still go there even though they have been classified a
       CULT>
       Blade
       #Post#: 8942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: guest17 Date: November 25, 2019, 8:10 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=197.msg8935#msg8935
       date=1574643447]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8921#msg8921
       date=1574536581]
       JW Elders Treatment of Preacher at Watchtower Convention 2018
       Jehovah's Witness Convention, San Diego, 2018. Unedited clip of
       JW Elders practicing this years motto, "Be Courageous".
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ex0jwDDTzU
       [/quote]
       people still go there even though they have been classified a
       CULT>
       Blade
       [/quote]
       JWs don't believe that they are a cult. There are some who still
       go there because they don't want to be shunned by their family
       and friends and may realize that something isn't right with that
       organization but they feel trapped. Many of them who do leave
       become atheists. Some of them commit suicide because of being
       shunned. Others who leave become activists against that
       organization and try to expose it to JWs and the public.
       #Post#: 8947--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: guest8 Date: November 25, 2019, 10:49 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8942#msg8942
       date=1574691041]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=197.msg8935#msg8935
       date=1574643447]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8921#msg8921
       date=1574536581]
       JW Elders Treatment of Preacher at Watchtower Convention 2018
       Jehovah's Witness Convention, San Diego, 2018. Unedited clip of
       JW Elders practicing this years motto, "Be Courageous".
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ex0jwDDTzU
       [/quote]
       people still go there even though they have been classified a
       CULT>
       Blade
       [/quote]
       JWs don't believe that they are a cult. There are some who still
       go there because they don't want to be shunned by their family
       and friends and may realize that something isn't right with that
       organization but they feel trapped. Many of them who do leave
       become atheists. Some of them commit suicide because of being
       shunned. Others who leave become activists against that
       organization and try to expose it to JWs and the public.
       [/quote]
       Yes, I have first hand experience with them.....I had a patient
       that needed blood to live and she could not take it for they
       would throw her out of the church...She ask me what my opinion
       was and I told her the truth......She took the blood and they
       shunned her out of the Church....It took some time but I think
       she finally joined a different church where there was support
       and love.  After her stay in the Hospital, I lost contact with
       her and still do not know what happened to her...
       Blade
       Blade
       #Post#: 8948--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: guest17 Date: November 26, 2019, 4:48 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=197.msg8947#msg8947
       date=1574743777]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8942#msg8942
       date=1574691041]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=197.msg8935#msg8935
       date=1574643447]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8921#msg8921
       date=1574536581]
       JW Elders Treatment of Preacher at Watchtower Convention 2018
       Jehovah's Witness Convention, San Diego, 2018. Unedited clip of
       JW Elders practicing this years motto, "Be Courageous".
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ex0jwDDTzU
       [/quote]
       people still go there even though they have been classified a
       CULT>
       Blade
       [/quote]
       JWs don't believe that they are a cult. There are some who still
       go there because they don't want to be shunned by their family
       and friends and may realize that something isn't right with that
       organization but they feel trapped. Many of them who do leave
       become atheists. Some of them commit suicide because of being
       shunned. Others who leave become activists against that
       organization and try to expose it to JWs and the public.
       [/quote]
       Yes, I have first hand experience with them.....I had a patient
       that needed blood to live and she could not take it for they
       would throw her out of the church...She ask me what my opinion
       was and I told her the truth......She took the blood and they
       shunned her out of the Church....It took some time but I think
       she finally joined a different church where there was support
       and love.  After her stay in the Hospital, I lost contact with
       her and still do not know what happened to her...
       Blade
       Blade
       [/quote]
       Yes, the blood policy is a big issue with JWs. I think they have
       revised that now somewhat for blood fractions that are
       acceptable. I'm not sure exactly what that means for JWs. I
       don't really know what blood fractions are.
       #Post#: 8963--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: guest8 Date: November 26, 2019, 8:31 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8948#msg8948
       date=1574765295]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=197.msg8947#msg8947
       date=1574743777]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8942#msg8942
       date=1574691041]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=197.msg8935#msg8935
       date=1574643447]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8921#msg8921
       date=1574536581]
       JW Elders Treatment of Preacher at Watchtower Convention 2018
       Jehovah's Witness Convention, San Diego, 2018. Unedited clip of
       JW Elders practicing this years motto, "Be Courageous".
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ex0jwDDTzU
       [/quote]
       people still go there even though they have been classified a
       CULT>
       Blade
       [/quote]
       JWs don't believe that they are a cult. There are some who still
       go there because they don't want to be shunned by their family
       and friends and may realize that something isn't right with that
       organization but they feel trapped. Many of them who do leave
       become atheists. Some of them commit suicide because of being
       shunned. Others who leave become activists against that
       organization and try to expose it to JWs and the public.
       [/quote]
       Yes, I have first hand experience with them.....I had a patient
       that needed blood to live and she could not take it for they
       would throw her out of the church...She ask me what my opinion
       was and I told her the truth......She took the blood and they
       shunned her out of the Church....It took some time but I think
       she finally joined a different church where there was support
       and love.  After her stay in the Hospital, I lost contact with
       her and still do not know what happened to her...
       Blade
       Blade
       [/quote]
       Yes, the blood policy is a big issue with JWs. I think they have
       revised that now somewhat for blood fractions that are
       acceptable. I'm not sure exactly what that means for JWs. I
       don't really know what blood fractions are.
       [/quote]
       Have you ever taken blood.....It can come from anyone, any
       color...I think this is their problem for the main part.
       #Post#: 8964--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: guest17 Date: November 26, 2019, 10:01 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=197.msg8963#msg8963
       date=1574821889]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8948#msg8948
       date=1574765295]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=197.msg8947#msg8947
       date=1574743777]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8942#msg8942
       date=1574691041]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=197.msg8935#msg8935
       date=1574643447]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg8921#msg8921
       date=1574536581]
       JW Elders Treatment of Preacher at Watchtower Convention 2018
       Jehovah's Witness Convention, San Diego, 2018. Unedited clip of
       JW Elders practicing this years motto, "Be Courageous".
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ex0jwDDTzU
       [/quote]
       people still go there even though they have been classified a
       CULT>
       Blade
       [/quote]
       JWs don't believe that they are a cult. There are some who still
       go there because they don't want to be shunned by their family
       and friends and may realize that something isn't right with that
       organization but they feel trapped. Many of them who do leave
       become atheists. Some of them commit suicide because of being
       shunned. Others who leave become activists against that
       organization and try to expose it to JWs and the public.
       [/quote]
       Yes, I have first hand experience with them.....I had a patient
       that needed blood to live and she could not take it for they
       would throw her out of the church...She ask me what my opinion
       was and I told her the truth......She took the blood and they
       shunned her out of the Church....It took some time but I think
       she finally joined a different church where there was support
       and love.  After her stay in the Hospital, I lost contact with
       her and still do not know what happened to her...
       Blade
       Blade
       [/quote]
       Yes, the blood policy is a big issue with JWs. I think they have
       revised that now somewhat for blood fractions that are
       acceptable. I'm not sure exactly what that means for JWs. I
       don't really know what blood fractions are.
       [/quote]
       Have you ever taken blood.....It can come from anyone, any
       color...I think this is their problem for the main part.
       [/quote]
       I've had surgery five times. Yes, I have taken blood.
       I've never thought about that being the reason why they have
       that blood policy. You might be right. They consider taking
       blood as eating blood even though it's intravenously. They also
       have a policy against organ transplants.
       #Post#: 9011--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: guest17 Date: November 30, 2019, 10:22 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       I've learned something new about the Watchtower organization
       called Theocratic Warfare.  Jehovah's Witnesses are told that
       they are in "theocratic warfare" or "spiritual warfare" with the
       world. This warfare includes the strategy that being misleading,
       or even lying, is acceptable in situations where such dishonesty
       furthers the organization's interests.
       "From time to time letters are received asking whether a certain
       circumstance would justify making an exception to the
       Christian’s obligation to tell the truth. In reply to these the
       following is given: God’s Word commands: “Speak truth each of
       you with his neighbor.” ...
       There is one exception, however, that the Christian must ever
       bear in mind. As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare
       and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God’s foes.
       Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the
       interests of God’s cause, it is proper to hide the truth from
       God’s enemies...Watchtower 1960 Jun 1 pp.351,352 Questions From
       Readers
       "We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if
       one is not so entitled we may be evasive. ... As a soldier of
       Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added
       caution when dealing with God's foes. Thus the Scriptures show
       that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God's cause,
       it is proper to hide the truth from God's enemies." Watchtower
       1960 Jun 1 pp.351-352:
       Anyone who is not a JW is considered to be a foe, worldly, so
       JWs are told that being misleading, or even lying, is acceptable
       in situations where such dishonesty furthers the organization's
       interests. Anything that reflects badly on the organization is
       lied about and covered up. Apparently the Governing Body must
       consider all JWs apart from themselves of course to be foes
       because they aren't told the truth.
       
       "We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if
       one is not so entitled we may be evasive." "We" as in the
       Governing Body, the ones at the top. The ones below them are not
       entitled to know so the Governing Body can lie and be evasive to
       them and feel justified in doing so. A need to know basis. Where
       have I heard that before.
       This is what Theocratic Warfare is according to the Governing
       Body.
       #Post#: 9037--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: guest8 Date: December 2, 2019, 8:15 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=197.msg9011#msg9011
       date=1575130956]
       I've learned something new about the Watchtower organization
       called Theocratic Warfare.  Jehovah's Witnesses are told that
       they are in "theocratic warfare" or "spiritual warfare" with the
       world. This warfare includes the strategy that being misleading,
       or even lying, is acceptable in situations where such dishonesty
       furthers the organization's interests.
       "From time to time letters are received asking whether a certain
       circumstance would justify making an exception to the
       Christian’s obligation to tell the truth. In reply to these the
       following is given: God’s Word commands: “Speak truth each of
       you with his neighbor.” ...
       There is one exception, however, that the Christian must ever
       bear in mind. As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare
       and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God’s foes.
       Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the
       interests of God’s cause, it is proper to hide the truth from
       God’s enemies...Watchtower 1960 Jun 1 pp.351,352 Questions From
       Readers
       "We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if
       one is not so entitled we may be evasive. ... As a soldier of
       Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added
       caution when dealing with God's foes. Thus the Scriptures show
       that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God's cause,
       it is proper to hide the truth from God's enemies." Watchtower
       1960 Jun 1 pp.351-352:
       Anyone who is not a JW is considered to be a foe, worldly, so
       JWs are told that being misleading, or even lying, is acceptable
       in situations where such dishonesty furthers the organization's
       interests. Anything that reflects badly on the organization is
       lied about and covered up. Apparently the Governing Body must
       consider all JWs apart from themselves of course to be foes
       because they aren't told the truth.
       
       "We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if
       one is not so entitled we may be evasive." "We" as in the
       Governing Body, the ones at the top. The ones below them are not
       entitled to know so the Governing Body can lie and be evasive to
       them and feel justified in doing so. A need to know basis. Where
       have I heard that before.
       This is what Theocratic Warfare is according to the Governing
       Body.
       [/quote]
       Considered as Cult
       #Post#: 9256--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: guest17 Date: December 18, 2019, 11:39 pm
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       This is a mind blowing video.
       Who REALLY is JEHOVAH? Jehovah's Witnesses - Freemasonry
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3UfzSe0wvI
       #Post#: 10731--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: patrick jane Date: February 29, 2020, 10:42 pm
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