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DIR Return to: BIBLE STUDY - From The Late Lori Bolinger
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#Post#: 1801--------------------------------------------------
If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: guest24
Date: October 24, 2018, 8:26 am
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All night, my mind has been quoting John 8:36 If the Son
therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
as if it was a song stuck in my head. So it got me wondering
why if the Son has set us free do we so often live as if we are
still slaves. I am not talking about the occasional sin but
rather the idea that we sin every day, the condition of way too
many local churches where people are always being hurt. Even in
communities like this where personal attacks can be common and
even things that are spoken in Love are twisted into personal
attacks when they aren't because we want to play victim....our
sins are rampant when we should be living as those who have been
set free....why? and how can we live as free people?
#Post#: 1811--------------------------------------------------
Re: If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: October 24, 2018, 7:24 pm
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--- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
>
> All night, my mind has been quoting John 8:36 If the Son
therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
>
>
>
> as if it was a song stuck in my head. So it got me wondering
why if the Son has set us free do we so often live as if we are
still slaves. I am not talking about the occasional sin but
rather the idea that we sin every day, the condition of way too
many local churches where people are always being hurt. Even in
communities like this where personal attacks can be common and
even things that are spoken in Love are twisted into personal
attacks when they aren't because we want to play victim....our
sins are rampant when we should be living as those who have been
set free....why? and how can we live as free people?
>
--- End Quote ---
Great topic. I have been doing my own study on Salvation and how
to understand the free gift. I will be posting another Study
Thread on the subject soon. This can be a great discussion of
what Christ did for us, which is beyond measure.
#Post#: 1818--------------------------------------------------
Re: If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: guest24
Date: October 25, 2018, 8:28 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=193.msg1801#msg1801
date=1540387613]
> All night, my mind has been quoting John 8:36 If the Son
therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
>
>
>
> as if it was a song stuck in my head. So it got me wondering
why if the Son has set us free do we so often live as if we are
still slaves. I am not talking about the occasional sin but
rather the idea that we sin every day, the condition of way too
many local churches where people are always being hurt. Even in
communities like this where personal attacks can be common and
even things that are spoken in Love are twisted into personal
attacks when they aren't because we want to play victim....our
sins are rampant when we should be living as those who have been
set free....why? and how can we live as free people?
>
--- End Quote ---
Great topic. I have been doing my own study on Salvation and how
to understand the free gift. I will be posting another Study
Thread on the subject soon. This can be a great discussion of
what Christ did for us, which is beyond measure.
[/quote]I'm looking forward to it.
#Post#: 1842--------------------------------------------------
Re: If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: guest2
Date: October 26, 2018, 11:46 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Great topic. I have been doing my own study on Salvation and
how to understand the free gift. I will be posting another Study
Thread on the subject soon. This can be a great discussion of
what Christ did for us, which is beyond measure.
--- End Quote ---
Actually, our own inadequate ability to reconcile ourselves,
shows the heighth depth and width of the love of Christ.
To each his own.
#Post#: 1849--------------------------------------------------
Re: If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: guest24
Date: October 27, 2018, 1:01 pm
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Several years into my study of Biblical, Agape Love I asked my
husband if he had any idea the topic was this large. He and I
agreed, where we understood from the standpoint of scripture
talking about how huge it was, we had no real understanding of
it until we had been studying it for awhile.
#Post#: 1856--------------------------------------------------
Re: If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: Theo102
Date: October 27, 2018, 4:26 pm
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Because there's a difference between obeying the Lord and being
submissive toward YHWH. The book of Hosea has the background for
this idea.
#Post#: 1884--------------------------------------------------
Re: If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: guest24
Date: October 29, 2018, 9:28 am
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please go on...as I understand scripture, if we yield to Him, He
equips us and helps us to be righteous which was what separated
us in the first place.
#Post#: 1887--------------------------------------------------
Re: If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: Theo102
Date: October 29, 2018, 2:53 pm
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Yeilding or surrender is a good first step, what follows is
finding something to replace the behaviour which you have
abandoned. Repentance is a similar path, but that involves
knowledge of specific attitudes which are incompatible with the
intent of deity regarding your life. Acquiring that knowledge
requires discipline lest you miss the essentials or focus of
minutae.
#Post#: 2095--------------------------------------------------
Re: If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: guest8
Date: November 10, 2018, 9:17 am
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--- Quote from: Theo102 link ---
>
> Yeilding or surrender is a good first step, what follows is
finding something to replace the behaviour which you have
abandoned. Repentance is a similar path, but that involves
knowledge of specific attitudes which are incompatible with the
intent of deity regarding your life. Acquiring that knowledge
requires discipline lest you miss the essentials or focus of
minutae.
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]
God (the father) called his Son a 'Servant'. Jesus call himself
a servant in Mat. then in:
Mark 10:43-45.."But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever
will be great among you, shall be your minister: v.44 And
whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.
v. 45...For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto,
but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. "
**Minister= Servant-(Slave)
to be a servant (slave) is to be closer to Jesus as He still
serves us all today.
Why should we want to remove ourselves from a way of life that
Jesus recommends/commands.
Blade
[/shadow]
#Post#: 2096--------------------------------------------------
Re: If the Son has set us free why do we still live as if we are
slaves?
DIR By: guest24
Date: November 10, 2018, 9:39 am
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=Theo102 link=topic=193.msg1887#msg1887
date=1540842831]
> Yeilding or surrender is a good first step, what follows is
finding something to replace the behaviour which you have
abandoned. Repentance is a similar path, but that involves
knowledge of specific attitudes which are incompatible with the
intent of deity regarding your life. Acquiring that knowledge
requires discipline lest you miss the essentials or focus of
minutae.
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]
God (the father) called his Son a 'Servant'. Jesus call himself
a servant in Mat. then in:
Mark 10:43-45.."But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever
will be great among you, shall be your minister: v.44 And
whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.
v. 45...For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto,
but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. "
**Minister= Servant-(Slave)
to be a servant (slave) is to be closer to Jesus as He still
serves us all today.
Why should we want to remove ourselves from a way of life that
Jesus recommends/commands.
Blade
[/shadow]
[/quote]I think a lot of it has to do with the term slave or
servant...we are taught that being a slave or servant is a bad
thing when in reality it lifts us up and gives us a much better
life: that is if our slavery or servanthood is to the right
Master.
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