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#Post#: 1922--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: guest37
Date: October 30, 2018, 10:34 pm
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=dakk link=topic=191.msg1916#msg1916
date=1540951047]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=191.msg1913#msg1913
date=1540942271]
> [shadow=blue,left]Oh, I forgot about the authority of the
Talmudic Manuscripts.
>
> As I stated, correctly.....hum...... Who is worshiping John
the Baptist (And worshiping Yohanan the Immerser as God would
not be blasphemy?)
>
> Your double talk makes no impression here. Simply answer the
question. (Who is worshiping John the Baptist?)
>
> Blade[/shadow]
>
--- End Quote ---
Talmudic Manuscripts? Lol, the Uncial texts are the most ancient
GREEK texts in which the New Testament writings were written.
Please educate yourself so that you do not make such false
accusations and insinuations: or do you enjoy doing such things
to those who love the Word?
.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
Yes, I must make myself understand what you are trying to say
with double talk. "Uncial is a majuscule script " written in
Capital letters. around the 5th,6th and 7th centuries (AD).
I do believe there were earlier copies of the letters and
writings of the chapters within the NT that were in Greek. Since
it was the normal language used among the three languages in the
1st century AD.
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
No, the Uncial texts go back to the very earliest manuscripts.
They in fact are the earliest manuscripts and fragments we have.
Your comments are misleading and disingenuous.
Moreover all of the most ancient Uncial texts contain what are
called the Nomina Sacra, (sacred name abbreviations), and none
of them contain the full written name of
"ιησους", or "Jesus", or "Yeshua",
but instead, as I have said, the Nomen Sacrum Ι̅H.
Moreover the earliest forms are just as I have written it here
but the later forms began to have the case endings added to them
by scribes when they also began to add case endings to all the
names for grammatical purposes. This may be seen by the fact
that in the genealogies we still yet do not find the names
written with case endings. For the same reason most English
translation will render Iakob in the genealogies as Jacob,
(because it has no case endings), but in the rest of the texts
they render the same name as James, (Iakobos).
You have a serious problem on your hands with this fact alone:
for you must trust that there is someone called "Jesus" in all
your English translations when in fact that name is nowhere to
be found in any of the most ancient texts except where the
authors speak of Joshua: for only that name is spelled out in
full form in the New Testament, and it is
ιησους throughout the LXX, and
therefore also in the places in the New Testament where the name
for Joshua is written out in full form, (Acts 7:45, Hebrews 4:8
).
In short your beloved scholars have made a guess, "Jesus" or
"Yeshua" are nothing more than interpretations of the Nomen
Sacrum Iota-Heta, (Ι̅H), and you trust them over and
above what I have already shown you straight from the most
ancient texts. Moreover, as I have already said several times
now, Yohanan the Immerser and the Son of Elohim have the same
Nomen Sacrum, (Ι̅H).
In this case you do not even know there is a choice or a
decision to be made: how therefore can you "rightly divide"? You
can only know by the Holy Spirit of the New Covenant and that
New Spirit foretold in Ezekiel is the Testimony of the Master;
just as the Spirit of the Apocalypse Prophecy, according to the
author of the Apocalypse, is the Testimony of the Master.
Testimony is Spirit: you cannot know the Master or his name if
you do not know the Word because he himself is the Word of the
Father.
.
#Post#: 1945--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: guest8
Date: October 31, 2018, 9:27 pm
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--- Quote from: dakk link ---
>
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=191.msg1921#msg1921
date=1540954761]
> [quote author=dakk link=topic=191.msg1916#msg1916
date=1540951047]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=191.msg1913#msg1913
date=1540942271]
> [shadow=blue,left]Oh, I forgot about the authority of the
Talmudic Manuscripts.
>
> As I stated, correctly.....hum...... Who is worshiping John
the Baptist (And worshiping Yohanan the Immerser as God would
not be blasphemy?)
>
> Your double talk makes no impression here. Simply answer the
question. (Who is worshiping John the Baptist?)
>
> Blade[/shadow]
>
--- End Quote ---
Talmudic Manuscripts? Lol, the Uncial texts are the most ancient
GREEK texts in which the New Testament writings were written.
Please educate yourself so that you do not make such false
accusations and insinuations: or do you enjoy doing such things
to those who love the Word?
.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
Yes, I must make myself understand what you are trying to say
with double talk. "Uncial is a majuscule script " written in
Capital letters. around the 5th,6th and 7th centuries (AD).
I do believe there were earlier copies of the letters and
writings of the chapters within the NT that were in Greek. Since
it was the normal language used among the three languages in the
1st century AD.
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
No, the Uncial texts go back to the very earliest manuscripts.
They in fact are the earliest manuscripts and fragments we have.
Your comments are misleading and disingenuous.
Moreover all of the most ancient Uncial texts contain what are
called the Nomina Sacra, (sacred name abbreviations), and none
of them contain the full written name of
"ιησους", or "Jesus", or "Yeshua",
but instead, as I have said, the Nomen Sacrum Ι̅H.
Moreover the earliest forms are just as I have written it here
but the later forms began to have the case endings added to them
by scribes when they also began to add case endings to all the
names for grammatical purposes. This may be seen by the fact
that in the genealogies we still yet do not find the names
written with case endings. For the same reason most English
translation will render Iakob in the genealogies as Jacob,
(because it has no case endings), but in the rest of the texts
they render the same name as James, (Iakobos).
You have a serious problem on your hands with this fact alone:
for you must trust that there is someone called "Jesus" in all
your English translations when in fact that name is nowhere to
be found in any of the most ancient texts except where the
authors speak of Joshua: for only that name is spelled out in
full form in the New Testament, and it is
ιησους throughout the LXX, and
therefore also in the places in the New Testament where the name
for Joshua is written out in full form, (Acts 7:45, Hebrews 4:8
).
In short your beloved scholars have made a guess, "Jesus" or
"Yeshua" are nothing more than interpretations of the Nomen
Sacrum Iota-Heta, (Ι̅H), and you trust them over and
above what I have already shown you straight from the most
ancient texts. Moreover, as I have already said several times
now, Yohanan the Immerser and the Son of Elohim have the same
Nomen Sacrum, (Ι̅H).
In this case you do not even know there is a choice or a
decision to be made: how therefore can you "rightly divide"? You
can only know by the Holy Spirit of the New Covenant and that
New Spirit foretold in Ezekiel is the Testimony of the Master;
just as the Spirit of the Apocalypse Prophecy, according to the
author of the Apocalypse, is the Testimony of the Master.
Testimony is Spirit: you cannot know the Master or his name if
you do not know the Word because he himself is the Word of the
Father.
.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left] You said"No, the Uncial texts go back to the
very earliest manuscripts."
Would you please gives some references for that last statement.
All of My sources state the Uncial texts are from 4 thru the 8th
centuries. They may have used the New Testament manuscripts
(some 5500 of them) as the Textus Receptus did.
Blade
[/shadow]
#Post#: 6257--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: June 12, 2019, 4:16 am
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I get really tired of all the false prophets.
#Post#: 6677--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: June 29, 2019, 11:05 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> I get really tired of all the false prophets.
>
--- End Quote ---
Same here
#Post#: 6934--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: July 11, 2019, 5:47 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=191.msg6257#msg6257
date=1560331005]
> I get really tired of all the false prophets.
>
--- End Quote ---
Same here
[/quote]Me too.
#Post#: 16077--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: August 12, 2020, 7:14 am
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Billy rocks
#Post#: 16663--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: August 26, 2020, 5:00 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> Billy rocks
>
--- End Quote ---
Billy knows
#Post#: 17573--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: September 14, 2020, 6:06 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=191.msg16077#msg16077
date=1597234493]
> Billy rocks
>
--- End Quote ---
Billy knows
[/quote]He does indeed know
#Post#: 17675--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: September 17, 2020, 6:11 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=191.msg16663#msg16663
date=1598479222]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=191.msg16077#msg16077
date=1597234493]
> Billy rocks
>
--- End Quote ---
Billy knows
[/quote]He does indeed know
[/quote]Who Billy?
#Post#: 18898--------------------------------------------------
Re: False prophet to arise in Israel
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: October 15, 2020, 10:19 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=191.msg17573#msg17573
date=1600124780]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=191.msg16663#msg16663
date=1598479222]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=191.msg16077#msg16077
date=1597234493]
> Billy rocks
>
--- End Quote ---
Billy knows
[/quote]He does indeed know
[/quote]Who Billy?
[/quote]Blade knows
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