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       #Post#: 20190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: patrick jane Date: November 6, 2020, 1:23 pm
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       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=190.msg20086#msg20086
       date=1604540370]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20058#msg20058
       date=1604529335]
       ::)
       [/quote]
       No since to have to study on it....the answer is NO!
       Blade
       [/quote]Exactly
       #Post#: 20253--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: patrick jane Date: November 8, 2020, 3:14 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20190#msg20190
       date=1604690621]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=190.msg20086#msg20086
       date=1604540370]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20058#msg20058
       date=1604529335]
       ::)
       [/quote]
       No since to have to study on it....the answer is NO!
       Blade
       [/quote]Exactly
       [/quote] ;)
       #Post#: 20271--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: guest8 Date: November 9, 2020, 7:02 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20253#msg20253
       date=1604870055]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20190#msg20190
       date=1604690621]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=190.msg20086#msg20086
       date=1604540370]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20058#msg20058
       date=1604529335]
       ::)
       [/quote]
       No since to have to study on it....the answer is NO!
       Blade
       [/quote]Exactly
       [/quote] ;)
       [/quote]
       :o
       #Post#: 20391--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: patrick jane Date: November 12, 2020, 9:47 am
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       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=190.msg20271#msg20271
       date=1604970137]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20253#msg20253
       date=1604870055]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20190#msg20190
       date=1604690621]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=190.msg20086#msg20086
       date=1604540370]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20058#msg20058
       date=1604529335]
       ::)
       [/quote]
       No since to have to study on it....the answer is NO!
       Blade
       [/quote]Exactly
       [/quote] ;)
       [/quote]
       :o
       [/quote] ;D
       #Post#: 20406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: guest24 Date: November 12, 2020, 11:28 am
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       My pov is sure to get me into trouble, but here it goes.
       We cannot choose who we are attracted to, but we can choose what
       we do with that attraction.  For example, if we entertain
       lustful thoughts it is as if we commit adultery.
       I believe that homosexuality has a beautiful gift...let me
       explain...one of the most under talked about fruits of the
       Spirit is self-control and if there was ever any doubt, we all
       need to learn self-control over our sexual desires.  The
       homosexual that learns to exercise that self-control is yielding
       to the HS and has just received one of the greatest gifts God
       gives to His believers.  IOW's homosexuality is an opportunity
       to learn self-control just like poverty is an opportunity to
       learn to be content like no other lesson can teach us.
       #Post#: 20540--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: patrick jane Date: November 15, 2020, 9:12 am
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       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=190.msg20406#msg20406
       date=1605202094]
       My pov is sure to get me into trouble, but here it goes.
       We cannot choose who we are attracted to, but we can choose what
       we do with that attraction.  For example, if we entertain
       lustful thoughts it is as if we commit adultery.
       I believe that homosexuality has a beautiful gift...let me
       explain...one of the most under talked about fruits of the
       Spirit is self-control and if there was ever any doubt, we all
       need to learn self-control over our sexual desires.  The
       homosexual that learns to exercise that self-control is yielding
       to the HS and has just received one of the greatest gifts God
       gives to His believers.  IOW's homosexuality is an opportunity
       to learn self-control just like poverty is an opportunity to
       learn to be content like no other lesson can teach us.
       [/quote]I can agree somewhat. However, I don't expect the number
       of gays in control of their lusts and desires to be any more or
       less than straight people, which is not a high percentage.
       Sexual deviance is one of the most insidious behaviors to engage
       in.
       #Post#: 20549--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: guest8 Date: November 15, 2020, 8:25 pm
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       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=190.msg20406#msg20406
       date=1605202094]
       My pov is sure to get me into trouble, but here it goes.
       We cannot choose who we are attracted to, but we can choose what
       we do with that attraction.  For example, if we entertain
       lustful thoughts it is as if we commit adultery.
       I believe that homosexuality has a beautiful gift...let me
       explain...one of the most under talked about fruits of the
       Spirit is self-control and if there was ever any doubt, we all
       need to learn self-control over our sexual desires.  The
       homosexual that learns to exercise that self-control is yielding
       to the HS and has just received one of the greatest gifts God
       gives to His believers.  IOW's homosexuality is an opportunity
       to learn self-control just like poverty is an opportunity to
       learn to be content like no other lesson can teach us.
       [/quote]
       have to think of this a bit.
       Blade
       #Post#: 20560--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: guest24 Date: November 16, 2020, 9:57 am
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20540#msg20540
       date=1605453174]
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=190.msg20406#msg20406
       date=1605202094]
       My pov is sure to get me into trouble, but here it goes.
       We cannot choose who we are attracted to, but we can choose what
       we do with that attraction.  For example, if we entertain
       lustful thoughts it is as if we commit adultery.
       I believe that homosexuality has a beautiful gift...let me
       explain...one of the most under talked about fruits of the
       Spirit is self-control and if there was ever any doubt, we all
       need to learn self-control over our sexual desires.  The
       homosexual that learns to exercise that self-control is yielding
       to the HS and has just received one of the greatest gifts God
       gives to His believers.  IOW's homosexuality is an opportunity
       to learn self-control just like poverty is an opportunity to
       learn to be content like no other lesson can teach us.
       [/quote]I can agree somewhat. However, I don't expect the number
       of gays in control of their lusts and desires to be any more or
       less than straight people, which is not a high percentage.
       Sexual deviance is one of the most insidious behaviors to engage
       in.
       [/quote]the same can be said about poor people, just because
       they don't necessarily learn the lesson does NOT mean God didn't
       put it there for them to learn.   Look back at Gen. weeds are
       there to remind us to be righteous, just because most see weeds
       as something to get rid of, a curse to end, doesn't mean their
       purpose has changed.
       #Post#: 20575--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: guest8 Date: November 16, 2020, 7:51 pm
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       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=190.msg20560#msg20560
       date=1605542249]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg20540#msg20540
       date=1605453174]
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=190.msg20406#msg20406
       date=1605202094]
       My pov is sure to get me into trouble, but here it goes.
       We cannot choose who we are attracted to, but we can choose what
       we do with that attraction.  For example, if we entertain
       lustful thoughts it is as if we commit adultery.
       I believe that homosexuality has a beautiful gift...let me
       explain...one of the most under talked about fruits of the
       Spirit is self-control and if there was ever any doubt, we all
       need to learn self-control over our sexual desires.  The
       homosexual that learns to exercise that self-control is yielding
       to the HS and has just received one of the greatest gifts God
       gives to His believers.  IOW's homosexuality is an opportunity
       to learn self-control just like poverty is an opportunity to
       learn to be content like no other lesson can teach us.
       [/quote]I can agree somewhat. However, I don't expect the number
       of gays in control of their lusts and desires to be any more or
       less than straight people, which is not a high percentage.
       Sexual deviance is one of the most insidious behaviors to engage
       in.
       [/quote]the same can be said about poor people, just because
       they don't necessarily learn the lesson does NOT mean God didn't
       put it there for them to learn.   Look back at Gen. weeds are
       there to remind us to be righteous, just because most see weeds
       as something to get rid of, a curse to end, doesn't mean their
       purpose has changed.
       [/quote]
       If I am not mistaken, you are saying GOD put the homosexual
       tendencies in people????? If this is not what you are saying,
       please help.
       Blade
       #Post#: 20576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       By: guest116 Date: November 16, 2020, 7:52 pm
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       My simple answer is that they can live a righteous Christian
       life.   I chose not to judge them as I understand Jesus'
       teaching to put forth.  While I may or may not agree with
       lifestyle choices or arguments that it is a choice or a DNA
       issue or anything else, I am not the final arbitrator of how
       they have lived their life.  If they live there life in an
       upstanding, righteous and Christian life then why shouldn't they
       have the same considerations as anyone else?
       My in-laws, well the hardcore far-right Christians of the group
       say I am going to hell for not taking a hard stance.  My
       question to them that they have failed to even try to answer is:
       "When did God and Jesus give you the right to judge your fellow
       man?  I do not remember reading it anywhere in the Bible, Can
       not seem to find your name anywhere in there?"
       I do not condemn anyone for the way you judge those as that is
       between you and the Holy Father, but do not try to make me judge
       the same if I believe it goes against the teachings.
       This is just my humble opinion and postion
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