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       Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: October 19, 2018, 4:03 pm
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       Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       Can someone who is a part of the LGBT community be a Christian?
       Romans 3:23 -25 for all have sinned, and come short of the glory
       of God;  being justified freely by his grace through the
       redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to
       be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his
       righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through
       the forbearance of God;
       Romans 8:35-39 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?
       shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or
       nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we
       are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the
       slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors
       through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither
       death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor
       things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor
       any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love
       of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
       Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live;
       yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now
       live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who
       loved me, and gave himself for me.
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       #Post#: 1688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: guest13
       Date: October 19, 2018, 8:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
       >
       >
       > Can someone who is a part of the LGBT community be a
       Christian?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well ... can someone who is living a promiscuous lifestyle
       (adultery, sex outside of marriage, etc.) be a Christian?  My
       college youth pastor who sang at my wedding, ended up divorced
       after committing adultery with the wife of the music director.
       I knew them all for years.  Does that invalidate their
       salvation?
       I don't know.  What I do know is that I always see adultery as
       being a more serious sin than promiscuity and fornication
       because it interferes with a marriage and family.
       #Post#: 1699--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: Billy Evmur
       Date: October 20, 2018, 8:40 am
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       Is it at all in line with Paul's gospel to be taught by a
       wide-eyed slip of a girl?
       The answer is homosexuals can be saved and then backslide, they
       put themselves in great danger, they will incur chastisement
       even death.
       #Post#: 1713--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: October 20, 2018, 10:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Billy Evmur link ---
       >
       > Is it at all in line with Paul's gospel to be taught by a
       wide-eyed slip of a girl?
       >
       > The answer is homosexuals can be saved and then backslide,
       they put themselves in great danger, they will incur
       chastisement even death.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I doubt very seriously that a homosexual who says they were
       saved and then backslide was saved at all. I personally do not
       believe in "Carnal Christians"
       Jesus who knew you before you were born and knows whether you
       are true to your word with him or NOT.
       If Homosexuals think they can fool Him then they have the same
       mentality as the World's army, at the coming Armageddon,
       thinking they can take on GOD (Jesus Christ) and win!
       Blade
       #Post#: 1717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: Billy Evmur
       Date: October 21, 2018, 6:36 am
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       We all backslide dear Blade, the first thing we do is backslide
       into our familiar sins, how well I remember my first experience
       of it...I mourned for days. Then began the fightback and
       eventual victory over sin [His victory of course]
       But here we are speaking about wilful sin I think, throwing off
       all restraint like the wicked fellow at Corinth, but as wicked
       as he was Paul could not say that he was in danger of losing his
       salvation, but he was to be punished and his punishment did
       include being chucked out of the assembly. He did attain to
       forgiveness.
       #Post#: 1726--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: guest13
       Date: October 21, 2018, 11:11 am
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       --- Quote from: Billy Evmur link ---
       >
       > We all backslide dear Blade, the first thing we do is
       backslide into our familiar sins, how well I remember my first
       experience of it...I mourned for days. Then began the fightback
       and eventual victory over sin [His victory of course]
       >
       > But here we are speaking about wilful sin I think, throwing
       off all restraint like the wicked fellow at Corinth, but as
       wicked as he was Paul could not say that he was in danger of
       losing his salvation, but he was to be punished and his
       punishment did include being chucked out of the assembly. He did
       attain to forgiveness.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Doesn't it seem like one standard should hold for any sin?
       Adultery, fornication, etc.    I mean it's either if you sin,
       you lose your salvation and were never saved to begin with OR
       ... even those who are saved still backslide and sin.
       #Post#: 1744--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: Billy Evmur
       Date: October 21, 2018, 12:56 pm
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       The question is totally one of whether we can abandon ourselves
       to any sinful lifestyle, you are right. The thief can no longer
       steal, the liar can no longer lie while professing Christ
       If they did not repent of those things they were not saved, if
       they were saved but fall back to those things they are in a
       backslidden condition, they need to get out of that.
       But if they then throw off all restraint and sin wilfully they
       are in a potentially awful place. The bible speaks about the
       assembly giving the wilful sinner over to Satan for the
       destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.
       But flagrant sin cannot be tolerated in the assembly.
       #Post#: 1757--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: October 21, 2018, 8:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: Billy Evmur link ---
       >
       > The question is totally one of whether we can abandon
       ourselves to any sinful lifestyle, you are right. The thief can
       no longer steal, the liar can no longer lie while professing
       Christ
       >
       >
       > If they did not repent of those things they were not saved, if
       they were saved but fall back to those things they are in a
       backslidden condition, they need to get out of that.
       >
       > But if they then throw off all restraint and sin wilfully they
       are in a potentially awful place. The bible speaks about the
       assembly giving the wilful sinner over to Satan for the
       destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.
       >
       >
       > But flagrant sin cannot be tolerated in the assembly.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]Whoa wait a minute. all you got if they
       backslide is :"
       they need to get out of that."
       WHAT IF THEY DO NOT QUIT   their Backslide (sinning). Does Jesus
       simply continue to look the other way. How long do they have.
       How many times (if this applies).
       And if they lose their Salvation: Does this make Jesus a Liar as
       He told us:
       John 6:39...[shadow=red,left]"And this is the Father’s will
       which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should
       lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
       "[/shadow]
       Blade
       [/shadow]
       #Post#: 5459--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: May 8, 2019, 12:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=190.msg1744#msg1744
       date=1540144562]
       > The question is totally one of whether we can abandon
       ourselves to any sinful lifestyle, you are right. The thief can
       no longer steal, the liar can no longer lie while professing
       Christ
       >
       >
       > If they did not repent of those things they were not saved, if
       they were saved but fall back to those things they are in a
       backslidden condition, they need to get out of that.
       >
       > But if they then throw off all restraint and sin wilfully they
       are in a potentially awful place. The bible speaks about the
       assembly giving the wilful sinner over to Satan for the
       destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.
       >
       >
       > But flagrant sin cannot be tolerated in the assembly.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]Whoa wait a minute. all you got if they
       backslide is :"
       they need to get out of that."
       WHAT IF THEY DO NOT QUIT   their Backslide (sinning). Does Jesus
       simply continue to look the other way. How long do they have.
       How many times (if this applies).
       And if they lose their Salvation: Does this make Jesus a Liar as
       He told us:
       John 6:39...[shadow=red,left]"And this is the Father’s will
       which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should
       lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
       "[/shadow]
       Blade
       [/shadow]
       [/quote]Good point Blade. Someone that continues is willful sin
       may not have been saved to begin with.
       #Post#: 6607--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: June 26, 2019, 9:38 am
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       No one advocating sin, any sin, is in a saving relationship with
       God.  BUT there are plenty of us at war with ourselves,
       struggling with the flesh that are saved and covered by His
       grace.
       If you advocate sin you don't understand sin.  If I stepped
       barefoot into dog poo, I would just shrug it off, ignore my
       condition and track the stuff in the house and all through it.
       Sin is worse than dog poo ona a summer bare foot!
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