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Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: patrick jane Date: October 19, 2018, 4:03 pm
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Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
Can someone who is a part of the LGBT community be a Christian?
Romans 3:23 -25 for all have sinned, and come short of the glory
of God; being justified freely by his grace through the
redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to
be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his
righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through
the forbearance of God;
Romans 8:35-39 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?
shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or
nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we
are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the
slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors
through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither
death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor
things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor
any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love
of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live;
yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now
live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who
loved me, and gave himself for me.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: guest13 Date: October 19, 2018, 8:37 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=190.msg1682#msg1682
date=1539983019]
Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
Can someone who is a part of the LGBT community be a Christian?
[/quote]
Well ... can someone who is living a promiscuous lifestyle
(adultery, sex outside of marriage, etc.) be a Christian? My
college youth pastor who sang at my wedding, ended up divorced
after committing adultery with the wife of the music director.
I knew them all for years. Does that invalidate their
salvation?
I don't know. What I do know is that I always see adultery as
being a more serious sin than promiscuity and fornication
because it interferes with a marriage and family.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: Billy Evmur Date: October 20, 2018, 8:40 am
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Is it at all in line with Paul's gospel to be taught by a
wide-eyed slip of a girl?
The answer is homosexuals can be saved and then backslide, they
put themselves in great danger, they will incur chastisement
even death.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: guest8 Date: October 20, 2018, 10:19 pm
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[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=190.msg1699#msg1699
date=1540042850]
Is it at all in line with Paul's gospel to be taught by a
wide-eyed slip of a girl?
The answer is homosexuals can be saved and then backslide, they
put themselves in great danger, they will incur chastisement
even death.
[/quote]
I doubt very seriously that a homosexual who says they were
saved and then backslide was saved at all. I personally do not
believe in "Carnal Christians"
Jesus who knew you before you were born and knows whether you
are true to your word with him or NOT.
If Homosexuals think they can fool Him then they have the same
mentality as the World's army, at the coming Armageddon,
thinking they can take on GOD (Jesus Christ) and win!
Blade
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: Billy Evmur Date: October 21, 2018, 6:36 am
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We all backslide dear Blade, the first thing we do is backslide
into our familiar sins, how well I remember my first experience
of it...I mourned for days. Then began the fightback and
eventual victory over sin [His victory of course]
But here we are speaking about wilful sin I think, throwing off
all restraint like the wicked fellow at Corinth, but as wicked
as he was Paul could not say that he was in danger of losing his
salvation, but he was to be punished and his punishment did
include being chucked out of the assembly. He did attain to
forgiveness.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: guest13 Date: October 21, 2018, 11:11 am
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[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=190.msg1717#msg1717
date=1540121812]
We all backslide dear Blade, the first thing we do is backslide
into our familiar sins, how well I remember my first experience
of it...I mourned for days. Then began the fightback and
eventual victory over sin [His victory of course]
But here we are speaking about wilful sin I think, throwing off
all restraint like the wicked fellow at Corinth, but as wicked
as he was Paul could not say that he was in danger of losing his
salvation, but he was to be punished and his punishment did
include being chucked out of the assembly. He did attain to
forgiveness.
[/quote]
Doesn't it seem like one standard should hold for any sin?
Adultery, fornication, etc. I mean it's either if you sin,
you lose your salvation and were never saved to begin with OR
... even those who are saved still backslide and sin.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: Billy Evmur Date: October 21, 2018, 12:56 pm
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[font=georgia]The question is totally one of whether we can
abandon ourselves to any sinful lifestyle, you are right. The
thief can no longer steal, the liar can no longer lie while
professing Christ
If they did not repent of those things they were not saved, if
they were saved but fall back to those things they are in a
backslidden condition, they need to get out of that.
But if they then throw off all restraint and sin wilfully they
are in a potentially awful place. The bible speaks about the
assembly giving the wilful sinner over to Satan for the
destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.
But flagrant sin cannot be tolerated in the assembly.[/font]
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: guest8 Date: October 21, 2018, 8:32 pm
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[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=190.msg1744#msg1744
date=1540144562]
[font=georgia]The question is totally one of whether we can
abandon ourselves to any sinful lifestyle, you are right. The
thief can no longer steal, the liar can no longer lie while
professing Christ
If they did not repent of those things they were not saved, if
they were saved but fall back to those things they are in a
backslidden condition, they need to get out of that.
But if they then throw off all restraint and sin wilfully they
are in a potentially awful place. The bible speaks about the
assembly giving the wilful sinner over to Satan for the
destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.
But flagrant sin cannot be tolerated in the assembly.[/font]
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Whoa wait a minute. all you got if they
backslide is :"
they need to get out of that."
WHAT IF THEY DO NOT QUIT their Backslide (sinning). Does Jesus
simply continue to look the other way. How long do they have.
How many times (if this applies).
And if they lose their Salvation: Does this make Jesus a Liar as
He told us:
John 6:39...[shadow=red,left]"And this is the Father’s will
which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should
lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
"[/shadow]
Blade
[/shadow]
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: patrick jane Date: May 8, 2019, 12:29 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=190.msg1757#msg1757
date=1540171928]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=190.msg1744#msg1744
date=1540144562]
[font=georgia]The question is totally one of whether we can
abandon ourselves to any sinful lifestyle, you are right. The
thief can no longer steal, the liar can no longer lie while
professing Christ
If they did not repent of those things they were not saved, if
they were saved but fall back to those things they are in a
backslidden condition, they need to get out of that.
But if they then throw off all restraint and sin wilfully they
are in a potentially awful place. The bible speaks about the
assembly giving the wilful sinner over to Satan for the
destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.
But flagrant sin cannot be tolerated in the assembly.[/font]
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Whoa wait a minute. all you got if they
backslide is :"
they need to get out of that."
WHAT IF THEY DO NOT QUIT their Backslide (sinning). Does Jesus
simply continue to look the other way. How long do they have.
How many times (if this applies).
And if they lose their Salvation: Does this make Jesus a Liar as
He told us:
John 6:39...[shadow=red,left]"And this is the Father’s will
which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should
lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
"[/shadow]
Blade
[/shadow]
[/quote]Good point Blade. Someone that continues is willful sin
may not have been saved to begin with.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
By: guest55 Date: June 26, 2019, 9:38 am
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No one advocating sin, any sin, is in a saving relationship with
God. BUT there are plenty of us at war with ourselves,
struggling with the flesh that are saved and covered by His
grace.
If you advocate sin you don't understand sin. If I stepped
barefoot into dog poo, I would just shrug it off, ignore my
condition and track the stuff in the house and all through it.
Sin is worse than dog poo ona a summer bare foot!
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