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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: guest2
Date: October 8, 2018, 2:16 am
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--- Quote from: AdamHowell link ---
>
> I think a valuable addition to this Flat Earth subsection
would be a sticky post listing all the important dimensions of
your model. I would be interested in knowing the elevation of
the sun, moon, and stars in your model, as well as the
circumference (or diameter) of the ice wall.
>
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As far as the ice wall goes, it is between 50,000 miles to
70,000 miles in circumference.
As far as the elevation goes for the sun, moon and stars it is
impossible to know.
All those bodies in the sky can do is help us figure our
positions on earth.
More Proverbs of Solomon
…2It is the glory of God to conceal a matter and the glory of
kings to search it out. 3As the heavens are high and the earth
is deep, so the hearts of kings cannot be searched.
King James Bible
The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of
kings is unsearchable.
Jeremiah 31:37 (ASV) Thus saith Jehovah: If heaven above can be
measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,
then will I also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that
they have done, saith Jehovah.
#Post#: 1572--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: October 11, 2018, 5:20 pm
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5 TIMES WE SAW WAY TOO FAR! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
With the increased efforts to find the curve, researchers have
found that we are able to see much further than we should. I've
compiled some of the best examples that some talented
researchers have been able to capture.
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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: Theo102
Date: October 11, 2018, 6:27 pm
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OK, so they've scaled up the Bedford Level experiment. What
you're looking at is the curvature of spacetime near the massive
body which is the earth. The astronomical version of this
phenomena is called a gravitational lens.
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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: guest2
Date: October 11, 2018, 8:44 pm
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> OK, so they've scaled up the Bedford Level experiment. What
you're looking at is the curvature of spacetime near the massive
body which is the earth. The astronomical version of this
phenomena is called a gravitational lens.
>
>
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Cute.
But even gravitational lensing does not bring anything into
sight that is not already at least partially visible from the
observers point of view. ;)
Therefore it is irrelevant as to the point that one should not
be able to see those distant mountains.
#Post#: 1577--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: AdamHowell
Date: October 11, 2018, 9:16 pm
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For every video that supposedly shows a distance that should
have been obscured by the curvature of the Earth (caused by
refraction), there is a video that clearly shows the curvature
of the Earth obscuring something (caused by perspective?). I
stopped caring about videos like those when I realized that
neither side was going to convince anyone with such videos.
#Post#: 1578--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: Theo102
Date: October 11, 2018, 10:25 pm
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> But even gravitational lensing does not bring anything into
sight that is not already at least partially visible from the
observers point of view. ;)
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In theory it could. Lensing bends light, and bent light can go
around obstructions.
#Post#: 1580--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: guest2
Date: October 12, 2018, 7:58 pm
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> [quote author=1Mind1Spirit link=topic=19.msg1576#msg1576
date=1539308663]
> But even gravitational lensing does not bring anything into
sight that is not already at least partially visible from the
observers point of view. ;)
--- End Quote ---
In theory it could. Lensing bends light, and bent light can go
around obstructions.
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When you find a physical example let me know.
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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: Theo102
Date: October 13, 2018, 3:11 pm
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> When you find a physical example let me know.
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if you can't understand the theory then how could you interpret
the observation?
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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: November 11, 2018, 7:43 am
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Ball-Earth Forced Indoctrination
In this video we'll discuss the mandatory indoctrination
campaign foisted upon all generations of trusting and gullible
toddlers. While the heliocentric model can easily be shown to
disagree with observable reality, the evidence for a flat and
motionless Earth is mounting -- Yet there appears to be no end
in sight to the forced indoctrination into ball Earth sophism
and anti-logic.
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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
DIR By: Theo102
Date: November 12, 2018, 2:12 am
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The angle of Polaris matching the latitude of the observer
debunks the FE pretty well, just as the consistent apparent size
of the moon does. If the moon was relatively close then it
should appear to be bigger overhead.
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