DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       <form
       action="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr"
       method="post"
       target="_top">
       <input
       type="hidden"
       name="cmd"
       value="_s-xclick">
       <input
       type="hidden"
       name="hosted_button_id"
       value="DKL7ADEKRVUBL">
       <input
       type="image"
       src="https://www.paypalobjects.com/en_US/i/btn/btn_donateCC_LG.gif"
       border="0"
       name="submit"
       alt="PayPal
       - The safer, easier way to pay
       online!">
       <img
       alt=""
       border="0"
       src="https://www.paypalobjects.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif"
       width="1"
       height="1">
       </form>
  HTML https://3169.createaforum.com
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       *****************************************************
   DIR Return to: Study to Shew Thyself Approved Unto God. . .
       *****************************************************
       #Post#: 42846--------------------------------------------------
       ARE WE WITH CHRIST UPON DEATH?
   DIR By: doug
       Date: November 3, 2025, 1:50 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [Phl 1:23 KJV] 23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a
       desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far
       better:..............In the surrounding verses, Paul is speaking
       about his physical death. Paul is declaring that upon death he
       had the expectation of being with Christ.
       [2Co 5:2, 6, 8 KJV] 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring
       to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: ... 6
       Therefore [we are] always confident, knowing that, whilst we are
       at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: ... 8 We are
       confident, [I say], and willing rather to be absent from the
       body, and to be present with the Lord................people use
       this verse to substantiate that when we die, we go to be with
       Christ. I believe we do go to be with the Lord upon death,
       however I don't think this verse supports it. Upon examination,
       the context of this verse leaves no doubt that we can see it is
       about the resurrection of our bodies. In the resurrection we
       shed these bodies, thus being absent from these mortal bodies,
       we are able to be present with him. It is therefore not best to
       apply this verse to show we will be in the presence of Christ
       upon death, even though we will.
       *****************************************************
       Page 1 of 1