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#Post#: 3840--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest43
Date: February 11, 2019, 9:10 pm
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3812#msg3812
date=1549848478]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3804#msg3804
date=1549840336]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3803#msg3803
date=1549837855]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3756#msg3756
date=1549611252]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3740#msg3740
date=1549524756]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3737#msg3737
date=1549510819]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3726#msg3726
date=1549480842]
> Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
means please correct me?
>
> Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
Adam and Eve in Eden?"
>
> I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there
is no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
did.
>
> The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]
Arius, do you not read the Bible (KJV)..Gen 3:23-24.."Therefore
the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the
ground from whence he was taken. v.24 So he drove out the man;
and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
tree of life."
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
Yes my friend, that is exactly what I was pointing out, that God
planet a Garden in Eden. The garden did not cover the entire
land of Eden, but a small part of it. It was a Garden IN Eden,
but Eden was not the Garden.
Just like; "the trees of Lebanon" doesn't mean Lebanon was a
tree.
It was at the east of the garden of Eden that God placed
Cherubim's, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep
the way of the tree of life.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Where is the 'Garden of Eden' or just 'Eden'
today. You said you knew?
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
Here is a brother that makes sense in defining where the Garden
of Eden is:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwcKcmrdNUE
Sounds real Biblical to me, what do you think?
Of course he seems like a Christian and Globe earther, other
than that, his info sounds solid.
[/quote],
[shadow=blue,left]I will have to agree with the video author in
that the Garden of Eden is of another dimension.
The last verse in Gen 3:24..."So he drove out the man; and he
placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
tree of life."
Here we see Got put the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Life
under guard of Cherubims (plural). He does not tell us how many.
The use of other dimensions is common in the Bible as the most
famous one being in the upper room where Jesus simply appears in
the room. The bible gives us clues to around 10 other
dimensions. We, of course have only three dimensions.
We know where the Garden of Eden was located. It was just in
another dimension and will stay there until the millennium
arrives.
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
I agree my brother, but I think we have one more dimension then
three, for we see the three dimensions with our mind, which is
the fourth dimension.
You seem to know 6 more dimensions then I'm aware of. I would
love to learn about them.
Please don't shun me my friend, I don't mind you thinking of me
as an Arian Heretic, because I was where you were not too long
ago. Let us keep sharpening our knowledge of the Lord, .. it is
what we are here for, right?
Remember I asked that no one take what I say offensively, it is
not personal. My stand against the Trinity-gods is personal,
just as my stand against the Globe earth is. We're talking about
a 500 some year old Globe-earth doctrine, and a 1,700 year old
trinity doctrine. I mean my Lord, how many generations is that,
right?
Something about these last days, where even an under schooled
dumb-dog like me can search out history, and information that
would take a Scholar years if this was just a 50 years ago, like
the 60's. So we should be able to get to the bottom of this
Trinity Doctrine rather quickly, because I doubt we'll have any
greater opportunity in the coming near future then what we have
today?
God bless you Blade
Arius
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Just what does the Trinity Doctrine mean to
you. Why does it make you deny the "Chistianity" religion.
The def. using Wikipedia is a follows: "Christianity is a
monotheistic Abrahamic religion faith based on the life and
teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as described in the New
Testament."
Note: I used Wikipedia Def because it was accurate and easy to
get to.
It is obvious the Trinity Doctrine disturbs you beyond the
normal. WHY?\[/quote]
Well think about it friend, what is the number one purpose for
us reading the Bible?
It's seeking God, right? I mean I'm sure you have checked out
other religions too, like me, and nothing even comes close to
the Bible, and God of the Bible, so isn't it crucial we get to
know our Creator?
Well as a child all I heard was the names "Jesus Christ, .. Oh
my Lord, Oh God, thank Jesus for this and thank Jesus for that,
yet as watched the actions of these people whose every other
words were God and Jesus, I've become to dreaded those names. As
a child till I was 12, the names Jesus and God became like
someone yelling "I have a bomb" on an airplane.
Later I was told if I don't become a Christian that I will go to
hell for an eternity, so hell no, I became a Christian, and
learned to live two separate lives. One in words (testifying to
others about this same Jesus and God in the Bible) and living as
if they were no part of my physical reality. Over the years I
learned that this is called Christianity, rightly dividing Gods
Word and my life in the real world, .. good ministry on one
hand, and leaving that good Ministry at the door of the church,
or in the tithing box when I exited.
--- Quote ---
> As far as Christianity is concerned, it is also obvious that
the RCC has tainted your mind even against those other
Christians that have nothing to do with the RCC.
--- End Quote ---
That's where you're wrong my dear brother, because I have about
50/50 friends and family Catholic and the others of other
denominations, and half of those are very conservative
Christians, Mennonite type, and to me in real life, they are the
same.
The only way you could tell them apart is if they start talking
about the Bible, and there of course the Catholics fail
miserably. yet in action, in public, at work like I said, you
can't tell them apart. So how would the RCC Christians taint my
view of the denominational Christians?
Besides, they both bare the same name, and interpret who their
gods are by the same Christian Doctrines.
--- Quote ---
> Bladerunner said - You need to work these problems out before
its too late.
>
> Blade[/shadow]
--- End Quote ---
I did, that's why I tell you that in public, at work, they are
all the same, same core beliefs worshipping the same gods
governed by the same Christian Doctrine. The only time you see a
difference is when they talk about the Bible. And even though I
said the Catholics don't know much about the Bible (not all of
course) they at least stick with their Christian Doctrines,
unlike the protestant Churches who know the Bible, yet show no
difference in their lives then the Catholics. So who are more
hypocritical, the Catholics, or the Protestants? .. know what I
mean?
What do you mean by "before it's too late"? I am making leaps
and bounds towards understanding God, His son Word, and
understanding who I am and where I live, where I hope to go
after I die and the importance of sticking with Gods Word over
man made doctrines. God is not just another deity for me, nor is
Jesus Christ God. Now after Christs resurrection, God did deify
(raised) Jesus above all of His creation, above all
principalities and powers, and every knee shall bow down before
him in praise of our God and his God. But this does Not make
Jesus the son of God any more God, nor does this make Our
Infinite and Eternal God any less God, you know what I mean?
God bless
Arius
#Post#: 3927--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 15, 2019, 8:17 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Arius link ---
>
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3829#msg3829
date=1549929376]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3812#msg3812
date=1549848478]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3804#msg3804
date=1549840336]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3803#msg3803
date=1549837855]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3756#msg3756
date=1549611252]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3740#msg3740
date=1549524756]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3737#msg3737
date=1549510819]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3726#msg3726
date=1549480842]
> Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
means please correct me?
>
> Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
Adam and Eve in Eden?"
>
> I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there
is no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
did.
>
> The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]
Arius, do you not read the Bible (KJV)..Gen 3:23-24.."Therefore
the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the
ground from whence he was taken. v.24 So he drove out the man;
and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
tree of life."
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
Yes my friend, that is exactly what I was pointing out, that God
planet a Garden in Eden. The garden did not cover the entire
land of Eden, but a small part of it. It was a Garden IN Eden,
but Eden was not the Garden.
Just like; "the trees of Lebanon" doesn't mean Lebanon was a
tree.
It was at the east of the garden of Eden that God placed
Cherubim's, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep
the way of the tree of life.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Where is the 'Garden of Eden' or just 'Eden'
today. You said you knew?
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
Here is a brother that makes sense in defining where the Garden
of Eden is:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwcKcmrdNUE
Sounds real Biblical to me, what do you think?
Of course he seems like a Christian and Globe earther, other
than that, his info sounds solid.
[/quote],
[shadow=blue,left]I will have to agree with the video author in
that the Garden of Eden is of another dimension.
The last verse in Gen 3:24..."So he drove out the man; and he
placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
tree of life."
Here we see Got put the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Life
under guard of Cherubims (plural). He does not tell us how many.
The use of other dimensions is common in the Bible as the most
famous one being in the upper room where Jesus simply appears in
the room. The bible gives us clues to around 10 other
dimensions. We, of course have only three dimensions.
We know where the Garden of Eden was located. It was just in
another dimension and will stay there until the millennium
arrives.
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
I agree my brother, but I think we have one more dimension then
three, for we see the three dimensions with our mind, which is
the fourth dimension.
You seem to know 6 more dimensions then I'm aware of. I would
love to learn about them.
Please don't shun me my friend, I don't mind you thinking of me
as an Arian Heretic, because I was where you were not too long
ago. Let us keep sharpening our knowledge of the Lord, .. it is
what we are here for, right?
Remember I asked that no one take what I say offensively, it is
not personal. My stand against the Trinity-gods is personal,
just as my stand against the Globe earth is. We're talking about
a 500 some year old Globe-earth doctrine, and a 1,700 year old
trinity doctrine. I mean my Lord, how many generations is that,
right?
Something about these last days, where even an under schooled
dumb-dog like me can search out history, and information that
would take a Scholar years if this was just a 50 years ago, like
the 60's. So we should be able to get to the bottom of this
Trinity Doctrine rather quickly, because I doubt we'll have any
greater opportunity in the coming near future then what we have
today?
God bless you Blade
Arius
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Just what does the Trinity Doctrine mean to
you. Why does it make you deny the "Chistianity" religion.
The def. using Wikipedia is a follows: "Christianity is a
monotheistic Abrahamic religion faith based on the life and
teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as described in the New
Testament."
Note: I used Wikipedia Def because it was accurate and easy to
get to.
It is obvious the Trinity Doctrine disturbs you beyond the
normal. WHY?\[/quote]
Well think about it friend, what is the number one purpose for
us reading the Bible?
It's seeking God, right? I mean I'm sure you have checked out
other religions too, like me, and nothing even comes close to
the Bible, and God of the Bible, so isn't it crucial we get to
know our Creator?
Well as a child all I heard was the names "Jesus Christ, .. Oh
my Lord, Oh God, thank Jesus for this and thank Jesus for that,
yet as watched the actions of these people whose every other
words were God and Jesus, I've become to dreaded those names. As
a child till I was 12, the names Jesus and God became like
someone yelling "I have a bomb" on an airplane.
Later I was told if I don't become a Christian that I will go to
hell for an eternity, so hell no, I became a Christian, and
learned to live two separate lives. One in words (testifying to
others about this same Jesus and God in the Bible) and living as
if they were no part of my physical reality. Over the years I
learned that this is called Christianity, rightly dividing Gods
Word and my life in the real world, .. good ministry on one
hand, and leaving that good Ministry at the door of the church,
or in the tithing box when I exited.
--- Quote ---
> As far as Christianity is concerned, it is also obvious that
the RCC has tainted your mind even against those other
Christians that have nothing to do with the RCC.
--- End Quote ---
That's where you're wrong my dear brother, because I have about
50/50 friends and family Catholic and the others of other
denominations, and half of those are very conservative
Christians, Mennonite type, and to me in real life, they are the
same.
The only way you could tell them apart is if they start talking
about the Bible, and there of course the Catholics fail
miserably. yet in action, in public, at work like I said, you
can't tell them apart. So how would the RCC Christians taint my
view of the denominational Christians?
Besides, they both bare the same name, and interpret who their
gods are by the same Christian Doctrines.
--- Quote ---
> Bladerunner said - You need to work these problems out before
its too late.
>
> Blade[/shadow]
--- End Quote ---
I did, that's why I tell you that in public, at work, they are
all the same, same core beliefs worshipping the same gods
governed by the same Christian Doctrine. The only time you see a
difference is when they talk about the Bible. And even though I
said the Catholics don't know much about the Bible (not all of
course) they at least stick with their Christian Doctrines,
unlike the protestant Churches who know the Bible, yet show no
difference in their lives then the Catholics. So who are more
hypocritical, the Catholics, or the Protestants? .. know what I
mean?
What do you mean by "before it's too late"? I am making leaps
and bounds towards understanding God, His son Word, and
understanding who I am and where I live, where I hope to go
after I die and the importance of sticking with Gods Word over
man made doctrines. God is not just another deity for me, nor is
Jesus Christ God. Now after Christs resurrection, God did deify
(raised) Jesus above all of His creation, above all
principalities and powers, and every knee shall bow down before
him in praise of our God and his God. But this does Not make
Jesus the son of God any more God, nor does this make Our
Infinite and Eternal God any less God, you know what I mean?
God bless
Arius
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Well I have tried every other way to get you
to see there are TRUE Christians out there that are just waiting
for Jesus to take them away in the clouds. But it seems you
are also stuck on Christian doctrines.
So, a question is this. There are many Christian doctrines, do
you have one in particular you do not like and can expand on
why?
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 3991--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest43
Date: February 18, 2019, 2:29 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote ---
> Bladerunner said: Well I have tried every other way to get you
to see there are TRUE Christians out there that are just waiting
for Jesus to take them away in the clouds. But it seems you
are also stuck on Christian doctrines.
>
> So, a question is this. There are many Christian doctrines, do
you have one in particular you do not like and can expand on
why?
>
> Blade
--- End Quote ---
Me too, I have tried to explain every way possible that the TRUE
Christian is the RCC-Christian, and the 'foundation' of
Christianity are:
1 Constantine's sword as the cross
(While the disciples of Christs Church lived as sheep ready for
slaughter, not as Constantine's butchers. This goes for every
denomination, not just Catholic)
2 three-gods doctrine aka the Trinity are their gods.
(Jesus never claimed that he was GOD, but throughout the New
Testament we can read how he consistently denied such
accusations)
3 Jesus is their sun-god worshipped on Sunday, in a
Helios-centric solar/sun system which is in a universe created
by Satan himself.
(Christians still believe in the globe earth, with a
heliocentric solar system just as the pagan Gentiles always
have. They can call their gods whatever they want;
Elohim (God)
Yahweh (Lord, Jehovah)
El Elyon (The Most High God)
Adonai (Lord, Master)
El Shaddai (Lord God Almighty)
El Olam (The Everlasting God)
Jehovah Jireh (The Lord Will Provide)
Jehovah Rapha (The Lord Who Heals You)
Jehovah Nissi (The Lord Is My Banner)
El Qanna (Jealous God)
Jehovah Mekoddishkem (The Lord Who Sanctifies You)
Jehovah Shalom (The Lord Is Peace)
Jehovah Sabaoth (The Lord of Hosts)
Jehovah Raah (The Lord Is My Shepherd)
Jehovah Tsidkenu (The Lord Our Righteousness)
Jehovah Shammah (The Lord Is There)
But at the end, it's how we understand who God really is, and
who His son Word really is.
Jesus may now be above all principalities and powers, but all
that is, is for the Glory Of God, and not to take our mind off
of God. The whole concept of "Christianity" is concentrated on
the sun-god Jesus, and not that he came to reveal God to us.
Like Moses talked to God many times, and both the children of
Israel and the Egyptians seen him/Moses as God, .. yet at the
end, after he brought the children of Israel out of Egypt, he
still wanted to "see God"!?
Why?
Because he knew even though it was God present in all those
manifestations, it was not the true nature of God. Moses wanted
to see/understand Gods true self.
But Constantine's Christian church, instead of coming to
know/see/understand the true nature of God, they made one up,
which is the Trinity gods.
If not Trinitarian Christians, then they make up other
unbiblical versions, as long as it's not the One and Only
Infinite and Eternal "I Am", .. not understood as a created
being, but the Ground of Being. That's what Infinite and Eternal
means, the ground of being. And when God told Moses His name "I
Am", it revealed His True Nature: Infinite/Eternal Conscious
Mind/Spirit that no created being can see.
Just as we can't see our own or each others "mind", there is no
physical manifestation of God either, so just as our spirit/mind
remains invisible, so does God.
This is why Christians defend their "Christian Religion" rather
than care what people say about Bible God. This reveals just
exactly who their god is; a made up idol/idols.
This was so evident on every "Christian Debating Forum" that I
have ever been on, they did not care what Muslims, Hindus,
atheists and even Satan worshipper members said about God, as
long as they did not attack their Christian Doctrine of their
trinity-gods.
Tell me this is not true?
#Post#: 3993--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 18, 2019, 7:09 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Arius link ---
>
> [quote]Bladerunner said: Well I have tried every other way to
get you to see there are TRUE Christians out there that are just
waiting for Jesus to take them away in the clouds. But it
seems you are also stuck on Christian doctrines.
>
> So, a question is this. There are many Christian doctrines, do
you have one in particular you do not like and can expand on
why?
>
> Blade
--- End Quote ---
Me too, I have tried to explain every way possible that the TRUE
Christian is the RCC-Christian, and the 'foundation' of
Christianity are:
1 Constantine's sword as the cross
(While the disciples of Christs Church lived as sheep ready for
slaughter, not as Constantine's butchers. This goes for every
denomination, not just Catholic)
2 three-gods doctrine aka the Trinity are their gods.
(Jesus never claimed that he was GOD, but throughout the New
Testament we can read how he consistently denied such
accusations)
3 Jesus is their sun-god worshipped on Sunday, in a
Helios-centric solar/sun system which is in a universe created
by Satan himself.
(Christians still believe in the globe earth, with a
heliocentric solar system just as the pagan Gentiles always
have. They can call their gods whatever they want;
Elohim (God)
Yahweh (Lord, Jehovah)
El Elyon (The Most High God)
Adonai (Lord, Master)
El Shaddai (Lord God Almighty)
El Olam (The Everlasting God)
Jehovah Jireh (The Lord Will Provide)
Jehovah Rapha (The Lord Who Heals You)
Jehovah Nissi (The Lord Is My Banner)
El Qanna (Jealous God)
Jehovah Mekoddishkem (The Lord Who Sanctifies You)
Jehovah Shalom (The Lord Is Peace)
Jehovah Sabaoth (The Lord of Hosts)
Jehovah Raah (The Lord Is My Shepherd)
Jehovah Tsidkenu (The Lord Our Righteousness)
Jehovah Shammah (The Lord Is There)
But at the end, it's how we understand who God really is, and
who His son Word really is.
Jesus may now be above all principalities and powers, but all
that is, is for the Glory Of God, and not to take our mind off
of God. The whole concept of "Christianity" is concentrated on
the sun-god Jesus, and not that he came to reveal God to us.
Like Moses talked to God many times, and both the children of
Israel and the Egyptians seen him/Moses as God, .. yet at the
end, after he brought the children of Israel out of Egypt, he
still wanted to "see God"!?
Why?
Because he knew even though it was God present in all those
manifestations, it was not the true nature of God. Moses wanted
to see/understand Gods true self.
But Constantine's Christian church, instead of coming to
know/see/understand the true nature of God, they made one up,
which is the Trinity gods.
If not Trinitarian Christians, then they make up other
unbiblical versions, as long as it's not the One and Only
Infinite and Eternal "I Am", .. not understood as a created
being, but the Ground of Being. That's what Infinite and Eternal
means, the ground of being. And when God told Moses His name "I
Am", it revealed His True Nature: Infinite/Eternal Conscious
Mind/Spirit that no created being can see.
Just as we can't see our own or each others "mind", there is no
physical manifestation of God either, so just as our spirit/mind
remains invisible, so does God.
This is why Christians defend their "Christian Religion" rather
than care what people say about Bible God. This reveals just
exactly who their god is; a made up idol/idols.
This was so evident on every "Christian Debating Forum" that I
have ever been on, they did not care what Muslims, Hindus,
atheists and even Satan worshipper members said about God, as
long as they did not attack their Christian Doctrine of their
trinity-gods.
Tell me this is not true?
[/quote]
[shadow=Blue,left]And I have tried every way to show you why the
TRUE CHRISTIAN is NOT the same as the RCC.
I guess we have nothing else to discuss.
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 4066--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest43
Date: February 21, 2019, 7:01 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote ---
> Bladerunner said:
> And I have tried every way to show you why the TRUE CHRISTIAN
is NOT the same as the RCC.
>
> I guess we have nothing else to discuss.
>
> Blade
--- End Quote ---
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was
that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught
a great many people. And the disciples were first called
Christians in Antioch.
If someone calls me an "Idiot" for believing, and following in
the footsteps of Jesus Christ who said he was "the Way, the
truth and the Life", doesn't mean I have to accept it and go by
that derogatory name, right?
Now if you can show me where the Early Disciples who walked as
"followers of the Way" ever 'referred to themselves as
"Christians", then we would have something to go on. Instead we
see it was something that burdened them, even to a point of
suffering:
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed,
but let him glorify God in this matter.
No Disciple of Christ, especially no Apostle would ever suffer
for being called: "Hey you; follower of the Way!" But being
mocked by a word like "Christian" can get tiresome.
Now we know who made a Religion out of that name though, ..
right? Rome did through Constantine with his Roman Catholic
Church who worshipped many gods, but especially the sun god. You
really cannot deny this, as I have shown you many YouTube videos
of the RCC Christians worshipping the sun god on Sundays.
Also, where did the Apostles ever mention that "God is three
persons", .. where? Show me even ONE mention in the Bible of God
being "three persons", or "being baptized three times", or
either the "son Word, or the Holy Spirit is just one person who
make up God as a Trinity" or that "God is plural, made up of
many"? But I can show you a demon who actually was plural. One,
made up of many:
Mark 5:9
Then He asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, saying,
“My name is Legion; for we are many.”
Mark 5:15
Then they came to Jesus, and saw the one who had been
demon-possessed and had the legion, sitting and clothed and in
his right mind. And they were afraid.
Luke 8:30
Jesus asked him, saying, “What is your name?” And he said,
“Legion,” because many demons had entered him.
Arius
#Post#: 4079--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 22, 2019, 7:48 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Arius link ---
>
> [quote]Bladerunner said:
> And I have tried every way to show you why the TRUE CHRISTIAN
is NOT the same as the RCC.
>
> I guess we have nothing else to discuss.
>
> Blade
--- End Quote ---
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was
that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught
a great many people. And the disciples were first called
Christians in Antioch.
If someone calls me an "Idiot" for believing, and following in
the footsteps of Jesus Christ who said he was "the Way, the
truth and the Life", doesn't mean I have to accept it and go by
that derogatory name, right?
Now if you can show me where the Early Disciples who walked as
"followers of the Way" ever 'referred to themselves as
"Christians", then we would have something to go on. Instead we
see it was something that burdened them, even to a point of
suffering:
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed,
but let him glorify God in this matter.
No Disciple of Christ, especially no Apostle would ever suffer
for being called: "Hey you; follower of the Way!" But being
mocked by a word like "Christian" can get tiresome.
Now we know who made a Religion out of that name though, ..
right? Rome did through Constantine with his Roman Catholic
Church who worshipped many gods, but especially the sun god. You
really cannot deny this, as I have shown you many YouTube videos
of the RCC Christians worshipping the sun god on Sundays.
Also, where did the Apostles ever mention that "God is three
persons", .. where? Show me even ONE mention in the Bible of God
being "three persons", or "being baptized three times", or
either the "son Word, or the Holy Spirit is just one person who
make up God as a Trinity" or that "God is plural, made up of
many"? But I can show you a demon who actually was plural. One,
made up of many:
Mark 5:9
Then He asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, saying,
“My name is Legion; for we are many.”
Mark 5:15
Then they came to Jesus, and saw the one who had been
demon-possessed and had the legion, sitting and clothed and in
his right mind. And they were afraid.
Luke 8:30
Jesus asked him, saying, “What is your name?” And he said,
“Legion,” because many demons had entered him.
Arius
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
The word Christian is a greek word:
"Χριστιανός
Christianós, khris-tee-an-os'; from G5547; a Christian, i.e.
follower of Christ:—Christian. "
The word appears three times in the Bible in three unique forms.
You follower of the Way only appears once in the NIV version ( a
corrupted version) and it reads like this.......
Acts 24:14 (NIV).."However, I admit that I worship the God of
our ancestors as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect.
I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that
is written in the Prophets, "
Acts 24:14 (KJV).."But this I confess unto thee, that after the
way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers,
believing all things which are written in the law and in the
prophets: "
During the days of Paul, the Judaizers called (the followers of
the Way) those that followed the LAW and the Prophets. Paul made
it clear that He believed in all things written yet, in later
verses he confirms that he is helping fulfill them.
You are following the wrong path my friend. The only way to
Heaven is through Jesus Christ by Faith. (1 COR 15:1-4)
Blade
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 4167--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest43
Date: February 26, 2019, 8:06 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg4066#msg4066
date=1550797265]
> [quote]Bladerunner said:
> And I have tried every way to show you why the TRUE CHRISTIAN
is NOT the same as the RCC.
>
> I guess we have nothing else to discuss.
>
> Blade
--- End Quote ---
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was
that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught
a great many people. And the disciples were first called
Christians in Antioch.
If someone calls me an "Idiot" for believing, and following in
the footsteps of Jesus Christ who said he was "the Way, the
truth and the Life", doesn't mean I have to accept it and go by
that derogatory name, right?
Now if you can show me where the Early Disciples who walked as
"followers of the Way" ever 'referred to themselves as
"Christians", then we would have something to go on. Instead we
see it was something that burdened them, even to a point of
suffering:
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed,
but let him glorify God in this matter.
No Disciple of Christ, especially no Apostle would ever suffer
for being called: "Hey you; follower of the Way!" But being
mocked by a word like "Christian" can get tiresome.
Now we know who made a Religion out of that name though, ..
right? Rome did through Constantine with his Roman Catholic
Church who worshipped many gods, but especially the sun god. You
really cannot deny this, as I have shown you many YouTube videos
of the RCC Christians worshipping the sun god on Sundays.
Also, where did the Apostles ever mention that "God is three
persons", .. where? Show me even ONE mention in the Bible of God
being "three persons", or "being baptized three times", or
either the "son Word, or the Holy Spirit is just one person who
make up God as a Trinity" or that "God is plural, made up of
many"? But I can show you a demon who actually was plural. One,
made up of many:
Mark 5:9
Then He asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, saying,
“My name is Legion; for we are many.”
Mark 5:15
Then they came to Jesus, and saw the one who had been
demon-possessed and had the legion, sitting and clothed and in
his right mind. And they were afraid.
Luke 8:30
Jesus asked him, saying, “What is your name?” And he said,
“Legion,” because many demons had entered him.
Arius
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
The word Christian is a greek word:
"Χριστιανός
Christianós, khris-tee-an-os'; from G5547; a Christian, i.e.
follower of Christ:—Christian. "
The word appears three times in the Bible in three unique forms.
You follower of the Way only appears once in the NIV version ( a
corrupted version) and it reads like this.......
Acts 24:14 (NIV).."However, I admit that I worship the God of
our ancestors as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect.
I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that
is written in the Prophets, "
Acts 24:14 (KJV).."But this I confess unto thee, that after the
way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers,
believing all things which are written in the law and in the
prophets: "
During the days of Paul, the Judaizers called (the followers of
the Way) those that followed the LAW and the Prophets. Paul made
it clear that He believed in all things written yet, in later
verses he confirms that he is helping fulfill them.
You are following the wrong path my friend. The only way to
Heaven is through Jesus Christ by Faith. (1 COR 15:1-4)
Blade
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
So what you're saying is that Paul was a rebel, a "Follower of
the Way", .. a pusher of the Law rather than a Believer by
faith? No wonder he opened the door to the Gentiles, he was mad,
and went according to the Jewish Law, and by hallucinations.
I guess Christian does have the word "Christ" in it, while the
"follower of the Way, the Truth and the Life" does not. Besides,
Christianity being the most numerous and militarily the most
powerful Religion on the Globe proves they follow Christ because
it's obvious the gods are with them. The gods, .. especially the
son-god is definitely strong in this one, even helped wipe them
"Follower of the Way" heretics off the face of the globe.
“You almost persuade me to become a Christian” Blade, and if
Paul knew what would come in the near future he would have
rejoiced in not only turning King Agrippa into a Christian, but
the entire Roman Empire! Maybe King Agrippa had something to do
with Christianity becoming the most mighty Religion for the next
1,700 years, and maybe he past it down to Constantine!?
I mean it sounds pretty convincing, .. better than following a
loser, "a failure on the cross" as the Holiest of Christian
Fathers says.
#Post#: 4168--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 26, 2019, 9:22 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Arius link ---
>
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg4079#msg4079
date=1550886505]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg4066#msg4066
date=1550797265]
> [quote]Bladerunner said:
> And I have tried every way to show you why the TRUE CHRISTIAN
is NOT the same as the RCC.
>
> I guess we have nothing else to discuss.
>
> Blade
--- End Quote ---
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was
that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught
a great many people. And the disciples were first called
Christians in Antioch.
If someone calls me an "Idiot" for believing, and following in
the footsteps of Jesus Christ who said he was "the Way, the
truth and the Life", doesn't mean I have to accept it and go by
that derogatory name, right?
Now if you can show me where the Early Disciples who walked as
"followers of the Way" ever 'referred to themselves as
"Christians", then we would have something to go on. Instead we
see it was something that burdened them, even to a point of
suffering:
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed,
but let him glorify God in this matter.
No Disciple of Christ, especially no Apostle would ever suffer
for being called: "Hey you; follower of the Way!" But being
mocked by a word like "Christian" can get tiresome.
Now we know who made a Religion out of that name though, ..
right? Rome did through Constantine with his Roman Catholic
Church who worshipped many gods, but especially the sun god. You
really cannot deny this, as I have shown you many YouTube videos
of the RCC Christians worshipping the sun god on Sundays.
Also, where did the Apostles ever mention that "God is three
persons", .. where? Show me even ONE mention in the Bible of God
being "three persons", or "being baptized three times", or
either the "son Word, or the Holy Spirit is just one person who
make up God as a Trinity" or that "God is plural, made up of
many"? But I can show you a demon who actually was plural. One,
made up of many:
Mark 5:9
Then He asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, saying,
“My name is Legion; for we are many.”
Mark 5:15
Then they came to Jesus, and saw the one who had been
demon-possessed and had the legion, sitting and clothed and in
his right mind. And they were afraid.
Luke 8:30
Jesus asked him, saying, “What is your name?” And he said,
“Legion,” because many demons had entered him.
Arius
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
The word Christian is a greek word:
"Χριστιανός
Christianós, khris-tee-an-os'; from G5547; a Christian, i.e.
follower of Christ:—Christian. "
The word appears three times in the Bible in three unique forms.
You follower of the Way only appears once in the NIV version ( a
corrupted version) and it reads like this.......
Acts 24:14 (NIV).."However, I admit that I worship the God of
our ancestors as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect.
I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that
is written in the Prophets, "
Acts 24:14 (KJV).."But this I confess unto thee, that after the
way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers,
believing all things which are written in the law and in the
prophets: "
During the days of Paul, the Judaizers called (the followers of
the Way) those that followed the LAW and the Prophets. Paul made
it clear that He believed in all things written yet, in later
verses he confirms that he is helping fulfill them.
You are following the wrong path my friend. The only way to
Heaven is through Jesus Christ by Faith. (1 COR 15:1-4)
Blade
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
So what you're saying is that Paul was a rebel, a "Follower of
the Way", .. a pusher of the Law rather than a Believer by
faith? No wonder he opened the door to the Gentiles, he was mad,
and went according to the Jewish Law, and by hallucinations.
I guess Christian does have the word "Christ" in it, while the
"follower of the Way, the Truth and the Life" does not. Besides,
Christianity being the most numerous and militarily the most
powerful Religion on the Globe proves they follow Christ because
it's obvious the gods are with them. The gods, .. especially the
son-god is definitely strong in this one, even helped wipe them
"Follower of the Way" heretics off the face of the globe.
“You almost persuade me to become a Christian” Blade, and if
Paul knew what would come in the near future he would have
rejoiced in not only turning King Agrippa into a Christian, but
the entire Roman Empire! Maybe King Agrippa had something to do
with Christianity becoming the most mighty Religion for the next
1,700 years, and maybe he past it down to Constantine!?
I mean it sounds pretty convincing, .. better than following a
loser, "a failure on the cross" as the Holiest of Christian
Fathers says.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Arius,, Try rereading this verse again. "Paul
made it clear that He believed in all things written yet, in
later verses he confirms that he is helping fulfill them."
Thats right, the very tiny word of YET, also means future. "all
things written yet" Paul believed in Jesus Christ and all things
written in the future. This is confirmed to be a future date as
[b]"he is helping to fulfill them."
The judaizers were those Jews that followed the law of Moses for
they had rejected Jesus Christ as their Messiah.
I have not changed Arius. I am open to all ideas about the Bible
and GOD's WORD but reserved the right to reject them at any
time.
Blade[/shadow]
"
#Post#: 4229--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest43
Date: March 2, 2019, 2:08 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg4167#msg4167
date=1551233185]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg4079#msg4079
date=1550886505]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg4066#msg4066
date=1550797265]
> [quote]Bladerunner said:
> And I have tried every way to show you why the TRUE CHRISTIAN
is NOT the same as the RCC.
>
> I guess we have nothing else to discuss.
>
> Blade
--- End Quote ---
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was
that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught
a great many people. And the disciples were first called
Christians in Antioch.
If someone calls me an "Idiot" for believing, and following in
the footsteps of Jesus Christ who said he was "the Way, the
truth and the Life", doesn't mean I have to accept it and go by
that derogatory name, right?
Now if you can show me where the Early Disciples who walked as
"followers of the Way" ever 'referred to themselves as
"Christians", then we would have something to go on. Instead we
see it was something that burdened them, even to a point of
suffering:
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed,
but let him glorify God in this matter.
No Disciple of Christ, especially no Apostle would ever suffer
for being called: "Hey you; follower of the Way!" But being
mocked by a word like "Christian" can get tiresome.
Now we know who made a Religion out of that name though, ..
right? Rome did through Constantine with his Roman Catholic
Church who worshipped many gods, but especially the sun god. You
really cannot deny this, as I have shown you many YouTube videos
of the RCC Christians worshipping the sun god on Sundays.
Also, where did the Apostles ever mention that "God is three
persons", .. where? Show me even ONE mention in the Bible of God
being "three persons", or "being baptized three times", or
either the "son Word, or the Holy Spirit is just one person who
make up God as a Trinity" or that "God is plural, made up of
many"? But I can show you a demon who actually was plural. One,
made up of many:
Mark 5:9
Then He asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, saying,
“My name is Legion; for we are many.”
Mark 5:15
Then they came to Jesus, and saw the one who had been
demon-possessed and had the legion, sitting and clothed and in
his right mind. And they were afraid.
Luke 8:30
Jesus asked him, saying, “What is your name?” And he said,
“Legion,” because many demons had entered him.
Arius
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
The word Christian is a greek word:
"Χριστιανός
Christianós, khris-tee-an-os'; from G5547; a Christian, i.e.
follower of Christ:—Christian. "
The word appears three times in the Bible in three unique forms.
You follower of the Way only appears once in the NIV version ( a
corrupted version) and it reads like this.......
Acts 24:14 (NIV).."However, I admit that I worship the God of
our ancestors as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect.
I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that
is written in the Prophets, "
Acts 24:14 (KJV).."But this I confess unto thee, that after the
way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers,
believing all things which are written in the law and in the
prophets: "
During the days of Paul, the Judaizers called (the followers of
the Way) those that followed the LAW and the Prophets. Paul made
it clear that He believed in all things written yet, in later
verses he confirms that he is helping fulfill them.
You are following the wrong path my friend. The only way to
Heaven is through Jesus Christ by Faith. (1 COR 15:1-4)
Blade
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
So what you're saying is that Paul was a rebel, a "Follower of
the Way", .. a pusher of the Law rather than a Believer by
faith? No wonder he opened the door to the Gentiles, he was mad,
and went according to the Jewish Law, and by hallucinations.
I guess Christian does have the word "Christ" in it, while the
"follower of the Way, the Truth and the Life" does not. Besides,
Christianity being the most numerous and militarily the most
powerful Religion on the Globe proves they follow Christ because
it's obvious the gods are with them. The gods, .. especially the
son-god is definitely strong in this one, even helped wipe them
"Follower of the Way" heretics off the face of the globe.
“You almost persuade me to become a Christian” Blade, and if
Paul knew what would come in the near future he would have
rejoiced in not only turning King Agrippa into a Christian, but
the entire Roman Empire! Maybe King Agrippa had something to do
with Christianity becoming the most mighty Religion for the next
1,700 years, and maybe he past it down to Constantine!?
I mean it sounds pretty convincing, .. better than following a
loser, "a failure on the cross" as the Holiest of Christian
Fathers says.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Arius,, Try rereading this verse again. "Paul
made it clear that He believed in all things written yet, in
later verses he confirms that he is helping fulfill them."
Thats right, the very tiny word of YET, also means future. "all
things written yet" Paul believed in Jesus Christ and all things
written in the future. This is confirmed to be a future date as
[b]"he is helping to fulfill them."
The judaizers were those Jews that followed the law of Moses for
they had rejected Jesus Christ as their Messiah.
I have not changed Arius. I am open to all ideas about the Bible
and GOD's WORD but reserved the right to reject them at any
time.
Blade[/shadow]
"
[/quote]
Yes my friend, we have free will, and like billions of people
out there, we can accept, or reject Scripture, .. especially the
verses that were "added" to support the Trinity Doctrine. And
you can reject Paul, and even Jesus himself.
#Post#: 4234--------------------------------------------------
Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
DIR By: guest8
Date: March 2, 2019, 6:20 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Arius link ---
>
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg4168#msg4168
date=1551237735]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg4167#msg4167
date=1551233185]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg4079#msg4079
date=1550886505]
> [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg4066#msg4066
date=1550797265]
> [quote]Bladerunner said:
> And I have tried every way to show you why the TRUE CHRISTIAN
is NOT the same as the RCC.
>
> I guess we have nothing else to discuss.
>
> Blade
--- End Quote ---
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was
that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught
a great many people. And the disciples were first called
Christians in Antioch.
If someone calls me an "Idiot" for believing, and following in
the footsteps of Jesus Christ who said he was "the Way, the
truth and the Life", doesn't mean I have to accept it and go by
that derogatory name, right?
Now if you can show me where the Early Disciples who walked as
"followers of the Way" ever 'referred to themselves as
"Christians", then we would have something to go on. Instead we
see it was something that burdened them, even to a point of
suffering:
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed,
but let him glorify God in this matter.
No Disciple of Christ, especially no Apostle would ever suffer
for being called: "Hey you; follower of the Way!" But being
mocked by a word like "Christian" can get tiresome.
Now we know who made a Religion out of that name though, ..
right? Rome did through Constantine with his Roman Catholic
Church who worshipped many gods, but especially the sun god. You
really cannot deny this, as I have shown you many YouTube videos
of the RCC Christians worshipping the sun god on Sundays.
Also, where did the Apostles ever mention that "God is three
persons", .. where? Show me even ONE mention in the Bible of God
being "three persons", or "being baptized three times", or
either the "son Word, or the Holy Spirit is just one person who
make up God as a Trinity" or that "God is plural, made up of
many"? But I can show you a demon who actually was plural. One,
made up of many:
Mark 5:9
Then He asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, saying,
“My name is Legion; for we are many.”
Mark 5:15
Then they came to Jesus, and saw the one who had been
demon-possessed and had the legion, sitting and clothed and in
his right mind. And they were afraid.
Luke 8:30
Jesus asked him, saying, “What is your name?” And he said,
“Legion,” because many demons had entered him.
Arius
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
The word Christian is a greek word:
"Χριστιανός
Christianós, khris-tee-an-os'; from G5547; a Christian, i.e.
follower of Christ:—Christian. "
The word appears three times in the Bible in three unique forms.
You follower of the Way only appears once in the NIV version ( a
corrupted version) and it reads like this.......
Acts 24:14 (NIV).."However, I admit that I worship the God of
our ancestors as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect.
I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that
is written in the Prophets, "
Acts 24:14 (KJV).."But this I confess unto thee, that after the
way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers,
believing all things which are written in the law and in the
prophets: "
During the days of Paul, the Judaizers called (the followers of
the Way) those that followed the LAW and the Prophets. Paul made
it clear that He believed in all things written yet, in later
verses he confirms that he is helping fulfill them.
You are following the wrong path my friend. The only way to
Heaven is through Jesus Christ by Faith. (1 COR 15:1-4)
Blade
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
So what you're saying is that Paul was a rebel, a "Follower of
the Way", .. a pusher of the Law rather than a Believer by
faith? No wonder he opened the door to the Gentiles, he was mad,
and went according to the Jewish Law, and by hallucinations.
I guess Christian does have the word "Christ" in it, while the
"follower of the Way, the Truth and the Life" does not. Besides,
Christianity being the most numerous and militarily the most
powerful Religion on the Globe proves they follow Christ because
it's obvious the gods are with them. The gods, .. especially the
son-god is definitely strong in this one, even helped wipe them
"Follower of the Way" heretics off the face of the globe.
“You almost persuade me to become a Christian” Blade, and if
Paul knew what would come in the near future he would have
rejoiced in not only turning King Agrippa into a Christian, but
the entire Roman Empire! Maybe King Agrippa had something to do
with Christianity becoming the most mighty Religion for the next
1,700 years, and maybe he past it down to Constantine!?
I mean it sounds pretty convincing, .. better than following a
loser, "a failure on the cross" as the Holiest of Christian
Fathers says.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Arius,, Try rereading this verse again. "Paul
made it clear that He believed in all things written yet, in
later verses he confirms that he is helping fulfill them."
Thats right, the very tiny word of YET, also means future. "all
things written yet" Paul believed in Jesus Christ and all things
written in the future. This is confirmed to be a future date as
[b]"he is helping to fulfill them."
The judaizers were those Jews that followed the law of Moses for
they had rejected Jesus Christ as their Messiah.
I have not changed Arius. I am open to all ideas about the Bible
and GOD's WORD but reserved the right to reject them at any
time.
Blade[/shadow]
"
[/quote]
Yes my friend, we have free will, and like billions of people
out there, we can accept, or reject Scripture, .. especially the
verses that were "added" to support the Trinity Doctrine. And
you can reject Paul, and even Jesus himself.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]I can reject Paul and Jesus? Paul is the our
apostle during this period of GRACE. Jesus is the Lord GOD. Now
why would I reject either of them?
The verses in the KJV agree with around 5,000 manuscripts
written by students of Rabbis, etc., who had the original
epistles, gospels and other teachings of Jesus Christ and His
writers. They agree almost to perfection with the KJV.... If
you want to study the other versions and expect them to help
get you to heaven then don't waste your breath. Most of them
deny the deity of Jesus Christ and that my friend is a huge
problem.
You Aries, have a great day sir:
Blade[/shadow]
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