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       #Post#: 3576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: Seve Date: January 31, 2019, 5:50 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Dear Arius,
       Just so you know, to begin with,  I don’t  blame the Whole
       Christianity just because, most of them do NOT support my view
       and perspective of the Scripture... nor will I allow myself to
       participate anymore further discussion of the above ... simply
       because, it deals MOSTLY with BIAS PERSONAL OPINION and CIRCULAR
       ARGUMENT.
       The fact is, most Christians of different denominations, do Not
       agree with my doctrinal stands, but they see that I support my
       views with Scripture, but most have Never been taught what I
       post. In time, however, they accept me, but cling to the ideas
       they have been taught.
       As I have said before…. The complexity of views of the various
       denominations assure that we all must come to God by Faith
       alone, no matter the denomination.
       SUBSTANCE OF FAITH NOT SEEN:
       While I agree with some but not everything you are saying about
       “Faith”….allow me to explain to you what “FAITH NOT SEEN” for
       your further knowledge of Biblical Truth, according to the
       Scripture….
       The "Faith", which allows one to see, is provided to us, when
       God gives us the Faith to believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ,
       according to the Scriptures. It is a GIFT from God to men.
       Without this Faith, one cannot be Born Again.
       Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
       yourselves: it is the gift of God:
       Once, you have received this Faith, you can begin to look for
       the evidence of  things not seen as Hebrews 11:1 shows.
       Hbr 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the
       evidence of things not seen.
       Notice that Faith is Substance and Evidence.
       Once you have been Born Again, spiritually in Christ, it doesn't
       mean that you must accept everything else in Scripture as you
       have been taught by Blind Faith, since it is now possible for
       you to look for the substance of things hoped for and the
       evidence of things not seen, before you were made alive
       Spiritually.
       That's what I do, and it is really thrilling to discover the
       evidence of God, which I call PROOF of God, since it is PROOF to
       me. Since I believe, I have been Born Again, spiritually in
       Christ, by Faith.
       God bless
       #Post#: 3634--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: guest43 Date: February 2, 2019, 3:10 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Seve link=topic=171.msg3576#msg3576
       date=1548935450]
       Dear Arius,
       Just so you know, to begin with,  I don’t  blame the Whole
       Christianity just because, most of them do NOT support my view
       and perspective of the Scripture... nor will I allow myself to
       participate anymore further discussion of the above ... simply
       because, it deals MOSTLY with BIAS PERSONAL OPINION and CIRCULAR
       ARGUMENT.[/quote]
       Thank you Seve, and you don't have to discuss the "Christian
       Religion" subject, that is fine, I respect that.
       But may I ask you why you feel that it deals MOSTLY with BIAS
       PERSONAL OPINION and CIRCULAR ARGUMENT?
       Just for my record, I want to consider everything, the last
       thing I want on that Last Day from my Lord is to tell me "You
       were wrong!" You know what I mean?
       [quote]The fact is, most Christians of different denominations,
       do Not agree with my doctrinal stands, but they see that I
       support my views with Scripture, but most have Never been taught
       what I post. In time, however, they accept me, but cling to the
       ideas they have been taught.[/quote]
       And you don't see anything wrong with that?
       [quote]As I have said before…. The complexity of views of the
       various denominations assure that we all must come to God by
       Faith alone, no matter the denomination.[/quote]
       Sectarianism Is Sin
       1 Cor 1:
       10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus
       Christ, that you all [d]speak the same thing, and that there be
       no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined
       together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 11 For it
       has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of
       Chloe’s household, that there are contentions among you. 12 Now
       I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of
       Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” 13 Is Christ
       divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the
       name of Paul?
       Even though Paul is speaking about who baptized who, contentions
       Is A Sin. Is Christ divided?
       How do you think the 2 billion Muslims come to Allah, .. it is
       by faith alone. Matter of fact, unquestionable faith, .. right?
       [quote]SUBSTANCE OF FAITH NOT SEEN:
       While I agree with some but not everything you are saying about
       “Faith”….allow me to explain to you what “FAITH NOT SEEN” for
       your further knowledge of Biblical Truth, according to the
       Scripture….
       The "Faith", which allows one to see, is provided to us, when
       God gives us the Faith to believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ,
       according to the Scriptures. It is a GIFT from God to men.
       Without this Faith, one cannot be Born Again.
       Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
       yourselves: it is the gift of God:
       [/quote]
       Of course it is a gift of God, because salvation cost God His
       own precious son. We could never repay that.
       The substance is the "prophesies" that have been written
       thousands of years before "the Word became flesh and dwelt
       amongst us" It is this that saves us, not because our family is
       Muslim/Christian and we have to accept Islam/Christianity or go
       to hell! You know what I mean?
       We didn't just accept someone claiming that a man named George
       died, and if we believe it we will be saved and go to Heaven!
       Where is the "substance" in that, right?
       [quote]Once, you have received this Faith, you can begin to look
       for the evidence of  things not seen as Hebrews 11:1 shows.
       Hbr 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the
       evidence of things not seen.
       Notice that Faith is Substance and Evidence.[/quote]
       If you already received this information (whatever it may be)
       and accepted it in faith, you don't need to look for evidence.
       That is what Islam is all about, first the poor Arabs must
       believe in, and accept Islam and Allah, and then they keep
       making up stories to keep believing. Like that if they blow
       themselves up and kill a bunch of non-Muslims, they are
       guaranteed to get into Paradise because that is what pleases
       Allah. Then they make up stories regarding the rewards, what
       they will get in Paradise once they get there.
       Same things are happening in Christianity, people make up all
       kinds of NDE's and how they seen God in person, how they hugged
       Him and even remember his eye colors, one blue and the other
       green. And many seen their pets there in Heaven too! All this
       because their faith is not built on evidence with substance, but
       have accepted a story on blind faith. So they accept just about
       any story as long as the name Jesus, or God is in there.
       Not so with true Believers, they KNOW which stories belong, and
       which are made up, or even lies.
       [quote]Once you have been Born Again, spiritually in Christ, it
       doesn't mean that you must accept everything else in Scripture
       as you have been taught by Blind Faith, since it is now possible
       for you to look for the substance of things hoped for and the
       evidence of things not seen, before you were made alive
       Spiritually.
       That's what I do, and it is really thrilling to discover the
       evidence of God, which I call PROOF of God, since it is PROOF to
       me. Since I believe, I have been Born Again, spiritually in
       Christ, by Faith.
       God bless
       [/quote]
       Look, I understand what you are saying, and I am not saying that
       faith cannot come by the smallest of packages/evidences, like
       just watching a Believers actions and how he or she lives her
       life. One can question him about what makes him this wonderful
       being full of love, and possess this peace beyond all
       understanding? He then can open the Bible and preach about
       Christ, right? BAM, if that that person is convinced, he can
       become an instant believer. This is what Jesus did, but he first
       shown miracles, which were recorded by other men as witnesses.
       Today, we read of these reports and decide if they were true or
       not, right?
       Do you know how many Christs have come and gone since Jesus?
       They shown such love, such peace beyond understanding, such
       compassion for peoples needs, and got up and helped hundreds of
       people, financially, emotionally, and preaching right from the
       Bible all that time.
       One of these was Jim Jones, and there are others today, this
       Russian Jesus that people from around the earth are flocking to
       and settling down with.
       OK, now I'm sure you know what happened with Jim Jones and the
       Guyana tragedy, right? Now I ask you a few things:
       First, do you believe that all them people murdered went to
       Heaven?
       Second, since according to the peoples claims, they were all
       "Christians" believers in Jesus Christ, do you agree that all
       the those people were really true believers in Jesus Christ? In
       other words, would you say they went to Heaven, and that Jim
       Jones will take all the blame for deceiving them?
       Third, what should have made them realize that Pastor Jones was
       really not a true believer? I don't mean when they went to
       Guyana, but when they were still in the States!?
       Thank you, and God bless you.
       #Post#: 3726--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: guest43 Date: February 6, 2019, 1:20 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
       the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
       means please correct me?
       Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
       Adam and Eve in Eden?"
       I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there is
       no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
       did.
       The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
       kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
       #Post#: 3737--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: guest8 Date: February 6, 2019, 9:40 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3726#msg3726
       date=1549480842]
       Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
       the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
       means please correct me?
       Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
       Adam and Eve in Eden?"
       I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there is
       no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
       did.
       The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
       kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       Arius, do you not read the Bible (KJV)..Gen 3:23-24.."Therefore
       the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the
       ground from whence he was taken.  v.24 So he drove out the man;
       and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 3740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: guest43 Date: February 7, 2019, 1:32 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3737#msg3737
       date=1549510819]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3726#msg3726
       date=1549480842]
       Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
       the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
       means please correct me?
       Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
       Adam and Eve in Eden?"
       I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there is
       no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
       did.
       The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
       kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       Arius, do you not read the Bible (KJV)..Gen 3:23-24.."Therefore
       the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the
       ground from whence he was taken.  v.24 So he drove out the man;
       and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Yes my friend, that is exactly what I was pointing out, that God
       planet a Garden in Eden. The garden did not cover the entire
       land of Eden, but a small part of it. It was a Garden IN Eden,
       but Eden was not the Garden.
       Just like; "the trees of Lebanon" doesn't mean Lebanon was a
       tree.
       It was at the east of the garden of Eden that God placed
       Cherubim's, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep
       the way of the tree of life.
       #Post#: 3756--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: guest8 Date: February 8, 2019, 1:34 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3740#msg3740
       date=1549524756]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3737#msg3737
       date=1549510819]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3726#msg3726
       date=1549480842]
       Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
       the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
       means please correct me?
       Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
       Adam and Eve in Eden?"
       I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there is
       no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
       did.
       The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
       kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       Arius, do you not read the Bible (KJV)..Gen 3:23-24.."Therefore
       the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the
       ground from whence he was taken.  v.24 So he drove out the man;
       and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Yes my friend, that is exactly what I was pointing out, that God
       planet a Garden in Eden. The garden did not cover the entire
       land of Eden, but a small part of it. It was a Garden IN Eden,
       but Eden was not the Garden.
       Just like; "the trees of Lebanon" doesn't mean Lebanon was a
       tree.
       It was at the east of the garden of Eden that God placed
       Cherubim's, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep
       the way of the tree of life.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Where is the 'Garden of Eden' or just 'Eden'
       today.  You said you knew?
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 3803--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: guest43 Date: February 10, 2019, 4:30 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3756#msg3756
       date=1549611252]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3740#msg3740
       date=1549524756]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3737#msg3737
       date=1549510819]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3726#msg3726
       date=1549480842]
       Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
       the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
       means please correct me?
       Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
       Adam and Eve in Eden?"
       I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there is
       no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
       did.
       The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
       kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       Arius, do you not read the Bible (KJV)..Gen 3:23-24.."Therefore
       the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the
       ground from whence he was taken.  v.24 So he drove out the man;
       and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Yes my friend, that is exactly what I was pointing out, that God
       planet a Garden in Eden. The garden did not cover the entire
       land of Eden, but a small part of it. It was a Garden IN Eden,
       but Eden was not the Garden.
       Just like; "the trees of Lebanon" doesn't mean Lebanon was a
       tree.
       It was at the east of the garden of Eden that God placed
       Cherubim's, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep
       the way of the tree of life.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Where is the 'Garden of Eden' or just 'Eden'
       today.  You said you knew?
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Here is a brother that makes sense in defining where the Garden
       of Eden is:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwcKcmrdNUE
       Sounds real Biblical to me, what do you think?
       Of course he seems like a Christian and Globe earther, other
       than that, his info sounds solid.
       #Post#: 3804--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: guest8 Date: February 10, 2019, 5:12 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3803#msg3803
       date=1549837855]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3756#msg3756
       date=1549611252]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3740#msg3740
       date=1549524756]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3737#msg3737
       date=1549510819]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3726#msg3726
       date=1549480842]
       Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
       the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
       means please correct me?
       Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
       Adam and Eve in Eden?"
       I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there is
       no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
       did.
       The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
       kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       Arius, do you not read the Bible (KJV)..Gen 3:23-24.."Therefore
       the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the
       ground from whence he was taken.  v.24 So he drove out the man;
       and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Yes my friend, that is exactly what I was pointing out, that God
       planet a Garden in Eden. The garden did not cover the entire
       land of Eden, but a small part of it. It was a Garden IN Eden,
       but Eden was not the Garden.
       Just like; "the trees of Lebanon" doesn't mean Lebanon was a
       tree.
       It was at the east of the garden of Eden that God placed
       Cherubim's, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep
       the way of the tree of life.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Where is the 'Garden of Eden' or just 'Eden'
       today.  You said you knew?
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Here is a brother that makes sense in defining where the Garden
       of Eden is:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwcKcmrdNUE
       Sounds real Biblical to me, what do you think?
       Of course he seems like a Christian and Globe earther, other
       than that, his info sounds solid.
       [/quote],
       [shadow=blue,left]I will have to agree with the video author in
       that the Garden of Eden is of another dimension.
       The last verse in Gen 3:24..."So he drove out the man; and he
       placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Here we see Got put the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Life
       under guard of Cherubims (plural). He does not tell us how many.
       The use of other dimensions is common in the Bible as the most
       famous one being in the upper room where Jesus simply appears in
       the room. The bible gives us clues to around 10 other
       dimensions. We, of course have only three dimensions.
       We know where the Garden of Eden was located. It was just in
       another dimension and will stay there until the millennium
       arrives.
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 3812--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: guest43 Date: February 10, 2019, 7:27 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3804#msg3804
       date=1549840336]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3803#msg3803
       date=1549837855]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3756#msg3756
       date=1549611252]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3740#msg3740
       date=1549524756]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3737#msg3737
       date=1549510819]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3726#msg3726
       date=1549480842]
       Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
       the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
       means please correct me?
       Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
       Adam and Eve in Eden?"
       I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there is
       no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
       did.
       The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
       kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       Arius, do you not read the Bible (KJV)..Gen 3:23-24.."Therefore
       the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the
       ground from whence he was taken.  v.24 So he drove out the man;
       and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Yes my friend, that is exactly what I was pointing out, that God
       planet a Garden in Eden. The garden did not cover the entire
       land of Eden, but a small part of it. It was a Garden IN Eden,
       but Eden was not the Garden.
       Just like; "the trees of Lebanon" doesn't mean Lebanon was a
       tree.
       It was at the east of the garden of Eden that God placed
       Cherubim's, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep
       the way of the tree of life.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Where is the 'Garden of Eden' or just 'Eden'
       today.  You said you knew?
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Here is a brother that makes sense in defining where the Garden
       of Eden is:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwcKcmrdNUE
       Sounds real Biblical to me, what do you think?
       Of course he seems like a Christian and Globe earther, other
       than that, his info sounds solid.
       [/quote],
       [shadow=blue,left]I will have to agree with the video author in
       that the Garden of Eden is of another dimension.
       The last verse in Gen 3:24..."So he drove out the man; and he
       placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Here we see Got put the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Life
       under guard of Cherubims (plural). He does not tell us how many.
       The use of other dimensions is common in the Bible as the most
       famous one being in the upper room where Jesus simply appears in
       the room. The bible gives us clues to around 10 other
       dimensions. We, of course have only three dimensions.
       We know where the Garden of Eden was located. It was just in
       another dimension and will stay there until the millennium
       arrives.
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       I agree my brother, but I think we have one more dimension then
       three, for we see the three dimensions with our mind, which is
       the fourth dimension.
       You seem to know 6 more dimensions then I'm aware of. I would
       love to learn about them.
       Please don't shun me my friend, I don't mind you thinking of me
       as an Arian Heretic, because I was where you were not too long
       ago. Let us keep sharpening our knowledge of the Lord, .. it is
       what we are here for, right?
       Remember I asked that no one take what I say offensively, it is
       not personal. My stand against the Trinity-gods is personal,
       just as my stand against the Globe earth is. We're talking about
       a 500 some year old Globe-earth doctrine, and a 1,700 year old
       trinity doctrine. I mean my Lord, how many generations is that,
       right?
       Something about these last days, where even an under schooled
       dumb-dog like me can search out history, and information that
       would take a Scholar years if this was just a 50 years ago, like
       the 60's. So we should be able to get to the bottom of this
       Trinity Doctrine rather quickly, because I doubt we'll have any
       greater opportunity in the coming near future then what we have
       today?
       God bless you Blade
       Arius
       #Post#: 3829--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
       By: guest8 Date: February 11, 2019, 5:56 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3812#msg3812
       date=1549848478]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3804#msg3804
       date=1549840336]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3803#msg3803
       date=1549837855]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3756#msg3756
       date=1549611252]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3740#msg3740
       date=1549524756]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=171.msg3737#msg3737
       date=1549510819]
       [quote author=Arius link=topic=171.msg3726#msg3726
       date=1549480842]
       Greetings Seve, I pray I did not offend you in any way, unless
       the truth is offensive? If it was not the truth, then by all
       means please correct me?
       Besides, we were derailing the topic at hand: "How long were
       Adam and Eve in Eden?"
       I say till they died, because Eden was a big place, and there is
       no mention of them leaving Eden to another country like Cain
       did.
       The Garden that God planted was in Eden, from which they got
       kicked out of, .. not the land Eden.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       Arius, do you not read the Bible (KJV)..Gen 3:23-24.."Therefore
       the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the
       ground from whence he was taken.  v.24 So he drove out the man;
       and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Yes my friend, that is exactly what I was pointing out, that God
       planet a Garden in Eden. The garden did not cover the entire
       land of Eden, but a small part of it. It was a Garden IN Eden,
       but Eden was not the Garden.
       Just like; "the trees of Lebanon" doesn't mean Lebanon was a
       tree.
       It was at the east of the garden of Eden that God placed
       Cherubim's, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep
       the way of the tree of life.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Where is the 'Garden of Eden' or just 'Eden'
       today.  You said you knew?
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       Here is a brother that makes sense in defining where the Garden
       of Eden is:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwcKcmrdNUE
       Sounds real Biblical to me, what do you think?
       Of course he seems like a Christian and Globe earther, other
       than that, his info sounds solid.
       [/quote],
       [shadow=blue,left]I will have to agree with the video author in
       that the Garden of Eden is of another dimension.
       The last verse in Gen 3:24..."So he drove out the man; and he
       placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a
       flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the
       tree of life."
       Here we see Got put the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Life
       under guard of Cherubims (plural). He does not tell us how many.
       The use of other dimensions is common in the Bible as the most
       famous one being in the upper room where Jesus simply appears in
       the room. The bible gives us clues to around 10 other
       dimensions. We, of course have only three dimensions.
       We know where the Garden of Eden was located. It was just in
       another dimension and will stay there until the millennium
       arrives.
       Blade[/shadow]
       [/quote]
       I agree my brother, but I think we have one more dimension then
       three, for we see the three dimensions with our mind, which is
       the fourth dimension.
       You seem to know 6 more dimensions then I'm aware of. I would
       love to learn about them.
       Please don't shun me my friend, I don't mind you thinking of me
       as an Arian Heretic, because I was where you were not too long
       ago. Let us keep sharpening our knowledge of the Lord, .. it is
       what we are here for, right?
       Remember I asked that no one take what I say offensively, it is
       not personal. My stand against the Trinity-gods is personal,
       just as my stand against the Globe earth is. We're talking about
       a 500 some year old Globe-earth doctrine, and a 1,700 year old
       trinity doctrine. I mean my Lord, how many generations is that,
       right?
       Something about these last days, where even an under schooled
       dumb-dog like me can search out history, and information that
       would take a Scholar years if this was just a 50 years ago, like
       the 60's. So we should be able to get to the bottom of this
       Trinity Doctrine rather quickly, because I doubt we'll have any
       greater opportunity in the coming near future then what we have
       today?
       God bless you Blade
       Arius
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Just what does the Trinity Doctrine mean to
       you. Why does it make you deny the "Chistianity" religion.
       The def. using Wikipedia is a follows: "Christianity is a
       monotheistic Abrahamic religion faith based on the life and
       teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as described in the New
       Testament."
       Note: I used Wikipedia Def because it was accurate and easy to
       get to.
       It is obvious the Trinity Doctrine disturbs you beyond the
       normal. WHY?\
       As far as Christianity is concerned, it is also obvious that the
       RCC has tainted your mind even against those other Christians
       that have nothing to do with the RCC.
       You need to work these problems out before its too late.
       Blade[/shadow]
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