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       He Raped Me with his Eyes | What is Modesty? | Modern Feminism
       By: patrick jane Date: October 6, 2018, 9:00 am
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       "He Raped Me with his Eyes." | What is Modesty? | Modern
       Feminism
       In this video we talk about a growing issue people are having
       with being objectified. Something some of us was long gone, in
       reality, is getting worse in a lot of ways. What is modesty
       really, is it a  state of mind or the clothes you wear? Do woman
       deserve advances from men based on the clothes they wear?
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       Re: "He Raped Me with his Eyes." | What is Modesty? | 
       Modern Feminism
       By: guest13 Date: October 14, 2018, 11:33 am
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=167.msg1470#msg1470
       date=1538834430]
       "He Raped Me with his Eyes." | What is Modesty? | Modern
       Feminism
       In this video we talk about a growing issue people are having
       with being objectified. Something some of us was long gone, in
       reality, is getting worse in a lot of ways. What is modesty
       really, is it a  state of mind or the clothes you wear? Do woman
       deserve advances from men based on the clothes they wear?
       [/quote]
       No ... in the same way women should refrain from oggling
       shirtless men in tight jeans.
       I am not saying that a person is expected to not notice
       something.  I am saying that it should be treated in the same
       way one would treat a breast feeding mom.
       He noticed.  Certainly.  Don't gawk.
       #Post#: 3938--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "He Raped Me with his Eyes." | What is Modesty? | 
       Modern Feminism
       By: patrick jane Date: February 16, 2019, 10:11 am
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       [quote author=Jinkx link=topic=167.msg1602#msg1602
       date=1539534827]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=167.msg1470#msg1470
       date=1538834430]
       "He Raped Me with his Eyes." | What is Modesty? | Modern
       Feminism
       In this video we talk about a growing issue people are having
       with being objectified. Something some of us was long gone, in
       reality, is getting worse in a lot of ways. What is modesty
       really, is it a  state of mind or the clothes you wear? Do woman
       deserve advances from men based on the clothes they wear?
       [/quote]
       No ... in the same way women should refrain from oggling
       shirtless men in tight jeans.
       I am not saying that a person is expected to not notice
       something.  I am saying that it should be treated in the same
       way one would treat a breast feeding mom.
       He noticed.  Certainly.  Don't gawk.
       [/quote]I think most men and especially young and young-ish men
       have to make a conscious effort and a split second decision not
       to gawk. I can't explain how we get this way but it's a
       conditioned response maybe? I can't say it's instinctive
       although men are instinctively attracted to women and vice
       versa, but again, I'd say that MOST men are programmed to look
       and "check it out" as looking a woman up and down in just a
       second or two. Do women do or feel the same things? As I'm 50
       now I don't gawk but I still have the strong inclination to.
       #Post#: 3946--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "He Raped Me with his Eyes." | What is Modesty? | 
       Modern Feminism
       By: guest13 Date: February 16, 2019, 11:47 am
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       [quote author=patrick jane]
       I think most men and especially young and young-ish men have to
       make a conscious effort and a split second decision not to gawk.
       I can't explain how we get this way but it's a conditioned
       response maybe? I can't say it's instinctive although men are
       instinctively attracted to women and vice versa, but again, I'd
       say that MOST men are programmed to look and "check it out" as
       looking a woman up and down in just a second or two. Do women do
       or feel the same things? As I'm 50 now I don't gawk but I still
       have the strong inclination to.
       [/quote]
       I agree, Patrick.  To look is natural.  Gawking is a choice.
       The choice one makes reveals their values .
       #Post#: 7160--------------------------------------------------
       Re: He Raped Me with his Eyes | What is Modesty? | Modern Femini
       sm
       By: patrick jane Date: July 21, 2019, 7:06 pm
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       This is a problem with boys and men.
       #Post#: 15615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: He Raped Me with his Eyes | What is Modesty? | Modern Femini
       sm
       By: patrick jane Date: July 27, 2020, 10:18 am
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       Terrible
       #Post#: 16875--------------------------------------------------
       Re: He Raped Me with his Eyes | What is Modesty? | Modern Femini
       sm
       By: patrick jane Date: August 30, 2020, 4:52 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=167.msg15615#msg15615
       date=1595863139]
       Terrible
       [/quote]Don't look
       #Post#: 19182--------------------------------------------------
       Re: He Raped Me with his Eyes | What is Modesty? | Modern Femini
       sm
       By: patrick jane Date: October 21, 2020, 10:42 am
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       ;)
       #Post#: 19460--------------------------------------------------
       Re: He Raped Me with his Eyes | What is Modesty? | Modern Femini
       sm
       By: patrick jane Date: October 24, 2020, 7:11 am
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=167.msg19182#msg19182
       date=1603294928]
       ;)
       [/quote] :D
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