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       Re: Vaccines
       By: guest8 Date: June 5, 2019, 2:38 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=16.msg6121#msg6121
       date=1559754815]
       Yes, I will stop posting conspiracy content about vaccines. I
       just know there are dozens MORE vaccines they deem "necessary"
       that I never got as baby or as a kid in 1969.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]There are many more vaccines one gets when
       going abroad. Take one that is a vaccine against a Bacteria. A
       Bacteria that produces a "endo /exo" toxin that cause diarriah,
       know as Dysentery. The cause agent is Vibrio Cholera.
       The vaccines are to stimulate the individuals immune system
       only...If there is a problem, then it is with the carrier (the
       liquid the DEAD virus,bateria, etc is suspended in.)
       Yes, back then medicine was just really coming into its own.
       Really all we had back then was Polio and Samllpox..   As it got
       into the 70's, DPT (Diptheria, Tetnus and Pertussus (whooping
       Cough) was given to the children before they went to  school..
       This was what age 5-6.... Not when they are born as some are
       trying to say. I think it is standard for the  vaccines prior to
       elementary school.....
       As you can see, All the maladies of birth would have already
       been discovered long before the vaccines would be introduced in
       the child.
       I lived in the Medical field for twenty-five years back then and
       we were just beginning to scratch the surface. What vaccines we
       had, saved thousands if not millions. I would not be afraid to
       give my children or grandchildren in my case, the vaccines
       recommended for elem. school... The youngsters will carry the
       immunity for many many years in the future.
       I hope all understand where I am coming from.... An outbreak of
       Measles in NYCity killed 500 or more. This was prior to any
       measles vaccine was available.
       Blade[/shadow]
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       Re: Vaccines
       By: patrick jane Date: March 26, 2020, 8:42 pm
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       Firestarter, do you have any saved information on vaccines or
       info on the Bill Gates Foundation etc.?
       #Post#: 11349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vaccines
       By: guest125 Date: March 26, 2020, 8:55 pm
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       Bill Gates had this ready to roll in December...
  HTML https://21stcenturywire.com/2019/12/23/bill-gates-develops-new-id-tattoo-to-check-for-vaccinations/
       #Post#: 11355--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vaccines
       By: guest125 Date: March 26, 2020, 11:22 pm
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       The Gates Foundation is up to their eyeballs in the Coronavirus
       agenda.
       Big Brave anti-Trumper Robert DeNiro deep-sixed this film.
       Gotta love the libs-- they find a way to get on every side of
       every issue so they can always say I told you so.  Now he's
       fully on board with the vaccination train that's already left
       the station.  And unlike the virus itself, as in the wars that
       are to come, it's young people who will suffer the most.
  HTML https://youtu.be/vH6qQWnnWF0
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       Re: Vaccines
       By: guest125 Date: March 26, 2020, 11:26 pm
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       It will be fine-- we're just going to put this little
       certification stamp on you-- for public safety.
       It isn't the dot that will kill you.  It's the principle.
       On your forehead-- the way you think
       On your right hand-- the things you do
       #Post#: 11363--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vaccines
       By: Firestarter Date: March 27, 2020, 10:51 am
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=16.msg11348#msg11348
       date=1585273321]
       Firestarter, do you have any saved information on vaccines or
       info on the Bill Gates Foundation etc.?
       [/quote]
       I’ve collected arguably "too much" information on vaccines
       (including books, not much on Bill Gates though)...
       Here’s my general thread on vaccines, including historic
       information on vaccines:
  HTML https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1346&start=20#p5935
       Here’s my thread on cancer vaccines:
  HTML https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1121
       See the increase in cervical cancer rates in women younger than
       50, after HPV vaccines were introduced in Sweden.
       [IMG]
  HTML http://ijme.in/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/fig-2.jpg[/img]
       Here’s my thread on the horrors of polio vaccines; there isn’t
       even evidence that the poliovirus causes paralysis:
  HTML https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1151
       Here’s a good video by Mark Geier, who explains that flu
       vaccines couldn’t possibly work…
  HTML https://youtu.be/nvXIqUyOdK4
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       Re: Vaccines
       By: guest125 Date: March 27, 2020, 12:48 pm
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       I work in the health industry where we are required to provide
       certification of an annual flu shot.
       I decline it.  I've never had one, I've never had more than a
       mild cold or flu.  It's become increasingly difficult to decline
       the shot-- doing so requires an inquiry and a declination form
       stating your reasons for refusal.  It also means "social
       distancing" from colleagues who disagree with my stance, from
       professional organizations, from credentialing agencies and
       community health groups.  In the days ahead-- certainly by next
       flu season such declinations will no longer be an option.
       Anyone who refuses a vaccination will be declared essentially
       and in fact- an enemy of the state.
       As far as Bill Gates goes, and specifically the Bill and Melinda
       Gates foundation- there is one glaring agenda at work in
       everything he's been doing-- vaccinations and birth control.
       Kind of a strange niche no?
       #Post#: 11367--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vaccines
       By: Firestarter Date: March 27, 2020, 1:04 pm
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       [quote author=Mr E link=topic=16.msg11366#msg11366
       date=1585331325]Anyone who refuses a vaccination will be
       declared essentially and in fact- an enemy of the state.
       As far as Bill Gates goes, and specifically the Bill and Melinda
       Gates foundation- there is one glaring agenda at work in
       everything he's been doing-- vaccinations and birth control.
       Kind of a strange niche no?[/quote]
       I think that the main objective of vaccines is lowering fertily
       rates for depopulation purposes.
       Your post “reminded” me of that...
       Here’s the tread on vaccine sterilisation (that I forgot in my
       previous post):
  HTML https://3169.createaforum.com/firestarter-on-fire/
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       Re: Vaccines
       By: guest17 Date: March 29, 2020, 3:09 pm
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       [quote author=Mr E link=topic=16.msg11356#msg11356
       date=1585283185]
       On your forehead-- the way you think
       On your right hand-- the things you do
       [/quote]
       I'm impressed. Very good. You don't believe that the mark is
       literal. Neither do I.
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       Re: Vaccines
       By: patrick jane Date: July 27, 2020, 11:31 am
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       [img]
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  HTML https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/july-august/hope-beyond-vaccine.html
       Hope Beyond a Vaccine
       Remember that Christian purpose has always been rooted in the
       not yet.
       Surveying the calamitous landscape wrought by the tiny
       coronavirus, Tom Frieden, the former director of the US Centers
       for Disease Control and Prevention, conceded a grim reality:
       “This is here to stay, in all likelihood, until we have a
       vaccine, and a vaccine could be a year or two away.” And that’s
       the optimistic scenario. Mike Ryan, head of the World Health
       Organization’s Health Emergencies Programme, described the
       possibility of developing a reliable vaccine anytime soon as “a
       moon shot.”
       This does not bode well, as I badly need a haircut.
       It does not bode well for my barber either, one of the millions
       of people now out of work. Aside from the moon shot, or viable
       treatment options, the only shot at returning to some semblance
       of normal requires corralling our way to herd immunity. The risk
       is well rehearsed: viral exposure, widespread contagion,
       infection, disease, and more death. By the time we arrive,
       businesses will have been decimated and churches shuttered.
       Millions more jobs will have evaporated, poverty and
       indebtedness will have soared. Emotional devastation litters the
       route: depression, brokenness, terror, and grief. Some say it
       feels like the end of the world.
       For Christians, the end of the world is the end of all hope
       because, for Christians, hope ends with its fulfillment. Jesus
       returns in glory to make all things new (Rev. 21:5)—so much so
       that the word hope never even appears in Revelation. Biblical
       hope is not especially optimistic but rather is the fruit of
       suffering, perseverance, and character (Rom. 5:3–4). Author
       Marilynne Robinson describes biblical hope as “constantly and
       intensely vulnerable.” G.K. Chesterton added, “It is only when
       everything is hopeless that [Christian] hope begins to be a
       strength at all. . . . it is as unreasonable as it is
       indispensable.” Paul assures us that hope cannot disappoint
       because it’s anchored in love, and love never fails (Rom. 5:5; 1
       Cor. 13:8).
       Still, perseverance requires patience, and patience is a virtue
       nobody has time for. Huddled in our houses, waiting for a
       vaccine, we wonder how long we can endure. In Revelation 6,
       martyrs who died for their faith huddle in heaven and wonder how
       long. As we wait for the end, Peter reminds us how, with the
       Lord, a day is like a thousand years and any slowness on God’s
       part is not really slow. What feels like forever is actually God
       being patient with us—“not wanting anyone to perish, but
       everyone to come to repentance” (2 Pet. 3:8–9). Throughout the
       Bible, trouble and hardship—pandemics and problems—all shatter
       illusions of human power and control. All have sinned and fall
       short of God’s glory, and all are justified freely by God’s
       grace (Rom. 3:23–24). God has the power. God has the control.
       The coronavirus has proven an equalizer. It infects righteous
       and unrighteous alike. But there’s viral inequity, too. The
       aged, the poor, the marginalized, and the already sick suffer
       and die disproportionately compared to the wealthy, the strong,
       and the privileged. This was the reason for the heavenly
       martyrs’ plea. Having suffered injustice on earth, they demanded
       to know how long till God would ride out in judgment and “avenge
       [their] blood” (Rev. 6:10).
       In response, the martyrs are all given white robes and told to
       hold their horses, so to speak. Because our hearts and hurts so
       easily deceive us, Scripture continually cautions against
       throwing stones or passing judgment, lest ye be judged. To wait
       in hope for the Lord, “our help and our shield” (Ps. 33:20),
       starkly counters empty optimism or wishful thinking. To wait in
       hope for the Lord aims at a future so sure we can live as if
       it’s already happened. We are new creations now (2 Cor. 5:17).
       In Christ, the future breaks into the present, pulling and
       empowering us forward to persevere with a purpose. Virtue begets
       virtue, and thus endurance produces character. As harbingers of
       new creation, we can provide foretastes of glory intentionally
       when we love our neighbors and enemies, when we forgive those
       who wrong us, when we care for the poor and the sick among us,
       when we speak truth and make peace and do right.
       As I wait for my haircut, my barber waits for a paycheck. It’s
       the same for so many who serve—from housecleaners, restaurant
       workers, warehouse stockers, and delivery drivers to health care
       providers and doctors. I did what I could for my out-of-work
       barber: I contributed to a salary fund for him, even as my hair
       grows to my shoulders.
       It’s a small offering given all I’ve received. But it’s a sure
       sign of the sure hope we hold to as we wait on Jesus to return.
       Daniel Harrell is editor in chief of Christianity Today.
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