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Re: Vaccines Kill?
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[center]EXPOSED: Vaccine deep state plot to seize
NaturalNews.com domain and criminalize all speech that questions
vaccine propaganda[/center]
Sunday, January 20, 2019 by: Mike Adams
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[size=12pt](Natural News) The World Health Organization, a
criminal cartel front for the vaccine industry, has just
declared war on the so-called “anti-vax” movement. The W.H.O. is
the same group that spiked vaccines given to women. The W.H.O.
is also the same fraudulent group that falsely declared H5N1
bird flu to be a “stage 6 pandemic” in order to create global
panic that generated billions of dollars in vaccine sales to
world government (which stockpiled the vaccines and then later
spent a fortune having the unused vaccine destroyed).
Now, the W.H.O. says that anti-vaxxers are one of the greatest
public health threats of 2019, ranking the “vaccine hesitancy”
movement right alongside Ebola as a public health threat.
“Vaccine hesitancy – the reluctance or refusal to vaccinate
despite the availability of vaccines – threatens to reverse
progress made in tackling vaccine-preventable diseases,” claims
the W.H.O. in a global health threat ranking document that also
claims global warming — a quack science hoax fabricated by
globalists — is also going to destroy humanity if we don’t
surrender world economies to Al Gore.
The real goal is to criminalize vaccine skepticism and shut down
all online speech that’s critical of vaccine safety
From sources inside the vaccine deep state, I’m being told that
this declaration by the World Health Organization is just the
first step in a major assault being unleashed against Natural
News and other independent journalism sources that rightfully
question the lack of safety in toxic vaccines. With this
declaration in place, the next steps will include:
Passing laws in Australia, the United States and Europe that
criminalize all online speech which is critical of vaccine
safety.
Arresting and imprisoning individuals who discuss the truth
about vaccine ingredients such as Thimerosal, squalene or
aborted human fetal cells (i.e. aborted human baby parts).
Blacklisting all scientists who study vaccine composition.
Seizing all domain names of independent publishers who report
the truth about vaccines.
Censoring all “anti-vax” content across all search engines,
mobile devices and social media.
Banning all “anti-vax” films and movies by claiming they are
“spreading disease” when, in reality, they are spreading the
truth about vaccine dangers.
Watch my urgent video that exposes the WHO’s global agenda to
criminalize and silence all “non-official” speech about vaccines
I’ve just posted a hugely important video that explains the
W.H.O. agenda to silence and criminalize all truthful speech
about vaccines and vaccine ingredients:
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Vaccines - Waging War On The Immune System - David Icke
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Re: Vaccines Kill?
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Not Worth a Shot: Why Some Christians Refuse Vaccinations on
Moral Grounds
The use of fetal cell lines from the 1960s is another sticking
point in the vaccine debate.
For certain Christians, the decision of whether to vaccinate
comes down to the origins of the vaccines themselves. Some
pro-life parents cite a moral disgust and a deep lament over the
use of 58-year-old aborted fetal cell lines in development for
several recommended immunizations, including MMR (measles,
mumps, and rubella) and chickenpox.
“The use of fetal cells in vaccine study and creation is one of
the primary reasons we do not vaccinate,” said Mandy Reynvaan, a
mother of five in Oregon, where a measles outbreak has flared
over the past few months. “The methods used to obtain these
cells are horrifying.”
This week, Reynvaan traveled to the state capital to lobby
against a bill that threatens to remove a parent’s right to
refuse vaccinations for school-age children unless there is a
medical reason. If passed, Oregon will be the fourth state to
remove non-medical exemptions.
Furthermore, Reynvaan, who teaches fourth grade, is concerned
that the state is not far off from mandating all teachers be
vaccinated, which would put her job at risk. She and her husband
have filed philosophical exemptions to vaccines for each of
their children.
The bill making its way through the state legislature comes in
response to 14 measles cases in Oregon and 73 in neighboring
Washington state, which Tuesday passed a bill to the governor’s
desk that would limit personal and philosophical exemptions for
the MMR vaccine (but not religious exemptions).
Across the country, there have been over 600 cases in 22 states,
spurring several state proposals that, in an effort to protect
against the spread of disease, would restrict parental rights
and religious freedoms for families who skip immunizations due
to their faith convictions. Measles has seen a 30 percent
increase globally, something the World Health Organization (WHO)
attributes to vaccine hesitancy in countries that had
practically eliminated the disease.
Christians who refuse to vaccinate are part of a larger trend,
as younger parents in general are more likely than previous
generations to believe the benefits don’t outweigh the risk.
Only 78 percent of 30- to 49-year-olds support an MMR vaccine
requirement for school children, compared to 90 percent of those
over 65, according to a 2017 Pew study.
While many evangelicals—both in favor of vaccines and
against—see their faith as compatible with science, the
questions they raise over immunizations coincide with some
distrust around the medical industry and human authority.
Overall, American confidence in the medical community has fallen
from 60 percent to 37 percent since the ’70s. Fewer than half of
adults don’t believe scientists fully understand the MMR,
according to the General Social Survey, despite the scientific
consensus in favor of vaccines. Those who put their trust in the
Holy Spirit and Scripture may be wary of embracing secular
authority and expertise, BioLogos has noted, which could
influence how they view scientific findings on topics like
vaccine safety. Pew Research found that white evangelical
Protestants are more likely than other Christians and Americans
in general to favor allowing parents to decide what to do about
childhood vaccines.
The abortion that started it all
The fetal cells that disturb parents like the Reynvaans actually
originate from material procured from two abortions that took
place in the 1960s, an era when measles was so common it often
went unreported. There were roughly a half million reported
cases in the US from 1956–1960. While about 450 of those people
died, there were many more severe complications from measles,
including 150,000 with respiratory complications, 4,000 cases of
encephalitis, and thousands hospitalized each year. Doctors were
eager to develop an effective vaccine.
For immunizations to work, they require the virus to be hosted
in a living cell. Cell biologist Leonard Hayflick, working at
the Wistar Institute in Philadelphia, reasoned that fetal cells
would be protected from outside pathogens and the “cleanest”
type to use in vaccines. He partnered with a Swedish scientist
to procure the fetal tissue from an elective abortion in a
country where it was legal.
In the recent book, The Vaccine Race, journalist Meredith Wadman
describes the patient, “Mrs. X,” who requested an abortion due
to her “run-down husband,” an alcoholic who was rarely around to
help with the young children they already had. Days after her
abortion in June 1962, Hayflick had the fetal lung cells he
needed for testing.
Hayflick previously discovered that as cells divided and grew
into subsequent generations they lost the youthfulness of the
original cells. (This was contrary to popular scientific thought
at the time. The discovery is now named after him.) So he grew
the cells, dividing them just eight times, and froze enough in
storage. Vaccine-makers still use the cell lines called WI-38
today.
These fetal cells from the “Mrs. X” abortion were used to grow
weakened or inactive viruses in the development of two vaccines:
the rubella vaccine (the R in the MMR vaccine) and one version
of rabies vaccine and are used around the world. Around the same
time, the British Medical Council in the UK also produced
vaccines from fetal lung cells. Using cells procured through an
abortion in 1966, a culture called MRC-5, they created vaccines
for hepatitis A, chickenpox, and shingles. A polio vaccine was
also made and used in other countries but not the US.
Researchers did experiment with other fetal tissue samples in
their development, but the human fetal cells in current vaccines
all stem from these two abortions.
Just one bottle of cells from Hayflick, Wadman writes, “would
produce 87,000 times more vaccine than is made by a typical
vaccine-making company, setting out today to make one year’s
worth of a typical childhood vaccine that it will ship to more
than forty countries.”
An ethical dilemma
Pro-life proponents of immunization point out that vaccines no
longer rely on abortion to provide further fetal cells—and that
the initial two abortions were not conducted to supply vaccine
makers with fetal tissue in the first place. Such circumstances
would be immoral—an argument on the Southern Baptist
Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC)
blog.
The Catholic Church also concluded, in a 2005 statement, that
those who receive vaccines are not culpable in the original
abortions. Focus on the Family’s Physicians Resource Council,
which last updated a statement in 2015, suggests that Christians
have the moral freedom to receive vaccines, though it also
respects those Christians who come to a different conclusion
after consideration and prayer.
National Institute of Health director Francis Collins suggests
comparing it to organ donation after a child was shot. “There
was a terrible, evil loss of life of that child and yet I think
we would all say that if the parents decided and they wanted
something good to come of this and gave their consent, that’s a
noble and honorable action,” he said. “Does that translate into
a parent, after going through a pregnancy termination, deciding
that they would like the fetal tissue to actually help
somebody?” ERLC makes a similar comparison to organ donation not
condoning murder.
Consent poses another ethical dilemma. The tissue from “Mrs. X”
dates back to an era when scientists often failed to secure
permission from donors or their families to use the cells. Think
too of Henrietta Lacks, the African American cancer victim whose
cells were secretly used in decades of research. Researchers
today are expected to obtain informed consent.
“It is easy to condemn out of hand the scientists who conducted
these experiments on the most voiceless and powerless among us.
And their actions were in many cases horrifying and
inexcusable,” Wadman wrote, noting the “deep moral abhorrence”
abortion opponents and other vaccine skeptics may feel. “But it
is more instructive—and perhaps more likely to prevent similar
betrayals in the future—to try to understand why they did what
they did.”
Concerns over reactions
One Louisiana mom described feeling shocked and betrayed when
she found out that vaccine development used aborted fetal cell
lines. It only led to growing mistrust of her pediatrician. “I
trusted my doctor to be honest with me,” she said. “I
desperately wanted to do right by my children.”
Concerned about vaccine reactions, she looked up her kids’
medical history to discover her firstborn had been vaccinated
for hepatitis B without her knowledge after she had a C-section,
deepening a sense of betrayal.
Like many parents with similar worries, she turned to the WHO,
Centers for Disease Control (CDC), books, and medical journals
to research vaccines, but her doctor balked at her efforts,
telling her “not become a quack like all the other parents, and
just vaccinate my children.”
Reynvaan’s hesitation over vaccines dates back to a seizure and
105-degree fever she experienced after her own 18-month
immunizations, given according to CDC recommendations. The event
landed her in the hospital, and though her pediatrician at the
time didn’t see the episode as a vaccine reaction, her mother
grew wary and proceeded with a less-rigorous vaccine schedule,
declining recommended boosters. This was prior to the Vaccine
Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), which launched in 1990
for parents and medical professionals to log reactions to
immunizations.
There are roughly 30,000 reactions reported to VAERS each year,
and roughly 85–90 percent of them are considered “mild side
effects,” such as a fever, arm soreness, or crying and mild
irritability. Reactions are more common for the DTaP, where
roughly 50 percent of patients run a low-grade fever (under
100.4 degrees), according to the WHO. VAERS also collects
reports of adverse events, such as anaphylactic shock, which
occurs in about one in a million doses.
The latest research agenda set forth by a CDC committee in 2011
reviewed the relationship between immunizations and autoimmune
diseases, saying that so far a connection has not been clear.
Nevertheless, it suggested more research on the genetic
variability of human immune responses with the aim of reducing
severe reactions to vaccines.
As an adult, Reynvaan has suffered autoimmune issues she
attributes to her childhood vaccines and wants to avoid her
children experiencing the same. “We are not close minded. We
believe our Christian beliefs and science are not diametrically
opposed, but instead, work together,” the Oregon mother told CT,
describing years of research and mounting concerns over
pharmaceutical companies’ liabilities for adverse reactions. “At
the end of the day, our desire is to raise healthy children.”
A Christian response
Vaccine opponents know the negative stereotype that surrounds
them, especially as outbreaks threaten to spread once-eradicated
diseases and put vulnerable populations at risk. Crystal Kupper,
a mom and journalist in Oregon, said she had once “mocked those
who did not vaccinate as uneducated conspiracy theorists.” Even
though she is enthusiastically in favor of vaccines, she gained
a new respect for the so-called anti-vaccine crowd through a
MOPS (Mothers of Preschoolers) group.
“These women were some of the most educated … articulate,
well-researched, giving, generous, selfless, Christlike people I
have ever had the pleasure of meeting,” she said. “And ever
since, it pains me to see how many of my Christian friends
openly mock those who don’t vaccinate as not only stupid but
selfish and unbiblical. I often think of Ephesians 4:29: ‘Do not
let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what
is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that
it may benefit those who listen.’”
She put her journalistic skills to use in researching medical
journals to understand her friends’ position and even
interviewed people who don’t vaccinate for her own reporting.
She too was shocked over the use of aborted fetal cell lines.
Whatever your viewpoint, she feels Christians can find common
ground with fellow believers who are trying their best to raise
their children and who ultimately put their trust in God for
their children’s health and safety.
But Christian convictions have also spurred a vocal minority to
do more. A group in Oregon wrote the state legislature to
explain their position against vaccines and their hope to “avoid
creating an incentive to develop similar cell lines in the
future.” Even if they decline vaccines developed from aborted
fetal cell lines, parents could still have their kids receive 9
out of 14 childhood immunizations recommended by the CDC,
including the flu shot as well as DTaP and related Tdap, which
cover tetanus, diphtheria, and whooping cough.
Even though the measles vaccine doesn’t use fetal cell lines,
measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines are no longer available
separately, so the combined MMR vaccine—which contains fetal
cell lines in the rubella vaccine—is required to combat the
current measles outbreak.
Collins explained that separating the MMR again would require
regulatory oversight, which would be costly, therefore, likely
not a priority for manufacturers. (Merck stopped producing the
individual vaccines in 2009.)
Vaccine researchers today have many more options than those who
developed major vaccine breakthroughs in the ’60s, said David
Prentice, a cell biologist and research director of the Lozier
Institute, a pro-life policy organization. “The vast majority of
vaccines nowadays never see any of those old fetal cell lines,”
he said. “They’re grown in monkey cells or other types of human
cells or stem cell types.”
There is a subset of the Christian opposition to vaccines that
also takes issue with certain animal cells used in medical
research, citing concerns over Levitical guidelines on animals
and blood products, as well as some that challenge vaccines for
sexually transmitted viruses such as the human papillomavirus
(HPV) and hepatitis B. But many concerned about the fetal cells
would prefer to see animal cells used.
“The use of human fetal cells in vaccine creation isn’t
necessary,” Reynvaan said. “Animal cells can be used and are
used in many current vaccines.”
Japanese companies produce rubella and hepatitis A vaccines that
do not use fetal cell lines, instead using animal cell lines,
but they are unavailable in the United States.
The new Ebola vaccine, which uses a monkey cell line, is shown
to be 97.5 percent effective in protecting against the current
outbreak in Congo. And while the older shingles vaccine was
cultured in an old aborted fetal cell line, a new one called
Shingrix, cultured in a Chinese hamster cell line, is more
effective.
Opponents to vaccine mandates would like to see lawmakers offer
more flexibility for religious exemptions for school children.
One mother described how, in South Carolina, where her
stepchildren were born, parents either opt in to all vaccines or
no vaccines. Meanwhile, New Mexico allows more of a
pick-and-choose approach on its form, meaning parents can select
the vaccines from which they are requesting an exemption. While
these solutions wouldn’t entice everyone, they might change some
parents’ minds. Furthermore, even Washington’s recently passed
bill addresses only the MMR.
Yet even if lawmakers and non-vaccinating religious parents
could find a compromise, the reality is the issue is
multi-faceted for many, with some still left asking questions
about safety, particularly on the relationship between vaccines
and autoimmune diseases. It is estimated 3 to 5 percent of the
population suffers from an autoimmune disease.
“I totally understand people’s hesitancies about that,” said
Prentice. “There haven’t been any scientific studies to nail it
down, yay or nay. … It’s incumbent on drug manufacturers … to
adhere to the strictest standards and eliminate any potential
source of a biological problem.”
For some Christians, understanding the impact a whole community
can have on health influences their personal choices—meaning
they vaccinate to benefit their neighbors because it improves
herd immunity. Therefore, Collins suggested that those of us who
can should vaccinate to protect those with immune deficiencies
and cancers.
But meanwhile, a lot of trust will have to be rebuilt for those
who fear they or their children are at risk for adverse effects.
Reynvaan is unsure that the pharmaceutical industry can be
trusted. In her personal research, she characterized her
findings as full of “corruption, falsified reports, and
incomplete science on the part of the pro-vaccine community.”
Rebecca Randall is the science editor for Christianity Today.
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Re: Vaccines Kill?
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[shadow=blue,left]The movement of refusing vaccines is a
youngsters movement where in they have no idea what they are
dealing with. Look to the past, 50s' and 60s'. smallpox, polio
and various other killers. They were only stopped by VACCINES!
Those who refuse the vaccines today for whatever reason are
bringing to bear a weapon far greater that any GUN ever was. A
highly contagious bacterial or viral organism where no cure is
available could kill 1/2 the earths population inside of 2-3
weeks.
I do hope the ignorant youth of our nation comes hard about
before it is too late.
Blade[/shadow]
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[shadow=blue,left]This is nothing less than a conspiracy
theorist. No facts, just talk trying to scare people. In the
early days of vaccines, they were grown within an egg
environment literally. It was then found out that many had a
allergic reaction against Eggs. So the carrier was changed. This
carrier is what determines if you have a reaction to the
vaccine.
In spring of 2019, measles outbreaks in various parts of the
country occurred and several people died during this time. In
fact, it got so bad, the municipalities began mandatory
vaccination of children, adults and older people in order to
shut down this outbreak. It seems to have worked. We hear no
more about the outbreak itself.
The author also suggest that the numbers of cases are shewed so
the pharmacies can continue to give these vaccines. This is a
unknown as the author produced no evidence this was actually
happening.
Have you ever thought about the aged.... How many of them will
die because their bodies no longer have an active immune system.
Many place do no give vaccines to 65 and over citizens because
of this. Thus when an outbreak occurs, who is the most likely to
die from this....Yet, this is ok.....less mouths to feed.
Think about it, the next time an author is trying to scare you
into something he can not or will not offer proof of what He is
saying to be true. Beware an author who insist that by buying
his book, many lives will be saved.
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Re: Vaccines
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: June 5, 2019, 12:13 pm
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Yes, I will stop posting conspiracy content about vaccines. I
just know there are dozens MORE vaccines they deem "necessary"
that I never got as baby or as a kid in 1969.
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