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Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: September 30, 2018, 5:01 pm
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Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
Should Christians use the KJV only?
God promises to perfectly preserve His word... so we should
definitely seek the truth of which translation is that perfectly
preserved translation.
Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried
in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
1 Peter 1:25 but the word of the Lord endureth for ever.
1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without
ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye
heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is
in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you
that believe.
Isaiah 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it
in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and
ever:
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth
pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law,
till all be fulfilled.
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Re: Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: guest8
Date: September 30, 2018, 10:51 pm
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[shadow=blue,left]All one needs to do is look to the actual
codex that was used to translate the Bible into English. If your
Bible is from the Alexander Codex, then you have a Book full of
missing verses, full of added verses. Rem, the Gnostics were
from Alexander.
Blade
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#Post#: 1315--------------------------------------------------
Re: Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: October 1, 2018, 6:38 am
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I use nothing but the KJV and I believe every word. I have the
NIV study Bible and I will read any Bible but when I read to
meditate and study the word it is always KJV. I have a small
leather pocket red letter NT Bible and it is perfect for laying
down and reading.
You see, I tried to enjoy reading the Bible before I opened up a
KJV and I could not stay focused and interested long enough to
absorb and comprehend what little I WAS reading. Finally God's
word opened up like never before and at that same time I was
saved again after drifting away from Christ for 25 years.
The King James just reads smoothly for me and it makes more
sense. I truly believe I understand the KJV more in the spirit
than any other version. I feel the holy spirit when I read from
King James Bibles. I am not a NKJV person yet though. Thanks for
the great video [member=28]victoriaroseinchrist[/member] !!!
#Post#: 1321--------------------------------------------------
Re: Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: guest5
Date: October 1, 2018, 10:35 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
>
>
> Should Christians use the KJV only?
>
> God promises to perfectly preserve His word... so we should
definitely seek the truth of which translation is that perfectly
preserved translation.
>
> Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver
tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
>
> 1 Peter 1:25 but the word of the Lord endureth for ever.
>
> 1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without
ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye
heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is
in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you
that believe.
>
> Isaiah 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note
it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and
ever:
>
> Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth
pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law,
till all be fulfilled.
>
> 3 minutes
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> Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus
Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7
KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
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I have to disagree with this video. The definition given for
“preservation” seems to equate more closely to “availability”
than anything. It seems to state that Christians should be KJV
only because it has been used longer and is more available.
All calls from the author of the video to do research and study
seem to use the KJV as the measuring stick and anything that
does not fully parrot the KJV is incorrect. The KJV is not
allowed to be questioned because of her view on what constitutes
preservation, all study is based on a conclusion she has already
arrived at. Older manuscripts in the original languages are not
valid for her to consider, because it wouldn’t be a fair
comparison because she’d have to learn two new languages to
challenge a version she is already fully invested in.
I have no problem with the KJV only crowd, because I believe all
truth is what is actually preserved in scripture, discrepancies
between differing versions can be investigated if someone truly
wants to know what version most closely matches the original
documents. This can’t be done if we are afraid that the version
we have committed ourselves to being wrong has a negative effect
on us. I don’t think it’s correct to tell someone to study and
then only give them the parameters to draw the same conclusions
as yourself. Again, I believe it’s ok to be KJV for whatever
reason you decide to be, but i’m Not sure sending someone else
on a biased study is the best course to encourage study.
#Post#: 1322--------------------------------------------------
Re: Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: guest5
Date: October 1, 2018, 1:41 pm
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--- Quote from: Jon Wood link ---
>
> I have to disagree with this video. The definition given for
“preservation” seems to equate more closely to “availability”
than anything. It seems to state that Christians should be KJV
only because it has been used longer and is more available.
>
> All calls from the author of the video to do research and
study seem to use the KJV as the measuring stick and anything
that does not fully parrot the KJV is incorrect. The KJV is not
allowed to be questioned because of her view on what constitutes
preservation, all study is based on a conclusion she has already
arrived at. Older manuscripts in the original languages are not
valid for her to consider, because it wouldn’t be a fair
comparison because she’d have to learn two new languages to
challenge a version she is already fully invested in.
>
> I have no problem with the KJV only crowd, because I believe
all truth is what is actually preserved in scripture,
discrepancies between differing versions can be investigated if
someone truly wants to know what version most closely matches
the original documents. This can’t be done if we are afraid
that the version we have committed ourselves to being wrong has
a negative effect on us. I don’t think it’s correct to tell
someone to study and then only give them the parameters to draw
the same conclusions as yourself. Again, I believe it’s ok to be
KJV for whatever reason you decide to be, but i’m Not sure
sending someone else on a biased study is the best course to
encourage study.
>
--- End Quote ---
After re-reading my comment, i’d like it noted that the “biased
study” I mentioned, is referring to study where ones own
presuppositions are not up for scrutiny along with the new
material being reviewed. I hope I did not come across as
unfriendly because it’s often quite difficult to disagree in
writing and not sound a little contrarian lol. I mess it up all
of the time, personally.
If we take the versions we use (or anything else we humans
discuss) purely on faith , then I can understand that, but I
disagree with the premise that one can actually study in a
comparative manner when we’ve already declared our own view the
winner and reject anything to the contrary immediately and this
was my main point of disagreement on the subject. I guess I can
leave this comment as is after this sentence, because anything
else i’ve Started to write feels wholly unnecessary to me
currently lol.
#Post#: 1323--------------------------------------------------
Re: Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: October 1, 2018, 5:09 pm
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--- Quote from: Jon Wood link ---
>
> [quote author=Jon Wood link=topic=154.msg1321#msg1321
date=1538408146]
> I have to disagree with this video. The definition given for
“preservation” seems to equate more closely to “availability”
than anything. It seems to state that Christians should be KJV
only because it has been used longer and is more available.
>
> All calls from the author of the video to do research and
study seem to use the KJV as the measuring stick and anything
that does not fully parrot the KJV is incorrect. The KJV is not
allowed to be questioned because of her view on what constitutes
preservation, all study is based on a conclusion she has already
arrived at. Older manuscripts in the original languages are not
valid for her to consider, because it wouldn’t be a fair
comparison because she’d have to learn two new languages to
challenge a version she is already fully invested in.
>
> I have no problem with the KJV only crowd, because I believe
all truth is what is actually preserved in scripture,
discrepancies between differing versions can be investigated if
someone truly wants to know what version most closely matches
the original documents. This can’t be done if we are afraid
that the version we have committed ourselves to being wrong has
a negative effect on us. I don’t think it’s correct to tell
someone to study and then only give them the parameters to draw
the same conclusions as yourself. Again, I believe it’s ok to be
KJV for whatever reason you decide to be, but i’m Not sure
sending someone else on a biased study is the best course to
encourage study.
>
--- End Quote ---
After re-reading my comment, i’d like it noted that the “biased
study” I mentioned, is referring to study where ones own
presuppositions are not up for scrutiny along with the new
material being reviewed. I hope I did not come across as
unfriendly because it’s often quite difficult to disagree in
writing and not sound a little contrarian lol. I mess it up all
of the time, personally.
If we take the versions we use (or anything else we humans
discuss) purely on faith , then I can understand that, but I
disagree with the premise that one can actually study in a
comparative manner when we’ve already declared our own view the
winner and reject anything to the contrary immediately and this
was my main point of disagreement on the subject. I guess I can
leave this comment as is after this sentence, because anything
else i’ve Started to write feels wholly unnecessary to me
currently lol.
[/quote]You came across ok and I understand your line of
thinking but where does it stop? Do we spend our entire lives
considering and comparing "new information" and different Bible
versions? We should be settled and of one mind per scripture.
Personally, it's a personal preference and I knew the KJV was
for me when I first opened it and began to read as the holy
spirit spoke to me.
#Post#: 1324--------------------------------------------------
Re: Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: guest5
Date: October 1, 2018, 5:45 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> You came across ok and I understand your line of thinking but
where does it stop? Do we spend our entire lives considering and
comparing "new information" and different Bible versions? We
should be settled and of one mind per scripture. Personally,
it's a personal preference and I knew the KJV was for me when I
first opened it and began to read as the holy spirit spoke to
me.
>
--- End Quote ---
Ok, glad I didn’t come across unnecessarily jerky. I get your
line of thinking too, I MAINLY use KJV myself because more
people relate to it and I agree that it is a preference thing.
My issue was never with the KJV only view, my issue lay in the
urging of a biased approach of comparative study. The only
results you can get like that, are the results you are looking
for. Really, the only one who can tell you where you draw the
line and stop looking further is yourself. If someone doesn’t
care to explore why discrepancy exists between their favorite
version and others, and put all their faith in one version,
that’s perfectly understandable.
#Post#: 1332--------------------------------------------------
Re: Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: guest8
Date: October 1, 2018, 9:00 pm
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--- Quote from: Jon Wood link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=154.msg1323#msg1323
date=1538431750]
> You came across ok and I understand your line of thinking but
where does it stop? Do we spend our entire lives considering and
comparing "new information" and different Bible versions? We
should be settled and of one mind per scripture. Personally,
it's a personal preference and I knew the KJV was for me when I
first opened it and began to read as the holy spirit spoke to
me.
>
--- End Quote ---
Ok, glad I didn’t come across unnecessarily jerky. I get your
line of thinking too, I MAINLY use KJV myself because more
people relate to it and I agree that it is a preference thing.
My issue was never with the KJV only view, my issue lay in the
urging of a biased approach of comparative study. The only
results you can get like that, are the results you are looking
for. Really, the only one who can tell you where you draw the
line and stop looking further is yourself. If someone doesn’t
care to explore why discrepancy exists between their favorite
version and others, and put all their faith in one version,
that’s perfectly understandable.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]There are a lot of versions out there but only
one of them came from a codex other than the Alexander Codex.
The city of the Gnostics.
We have had the same KJV version for 400 years.If you do your
memory work from the KJV it is not going to change. on the other
hand, all the other versions are redone every other year or so.
Blade[/shadow]
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Re: Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: guest5
Date: October 1, 2018, 10:58 pm
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=Jon Wood link=topic=154.msg1324#msg1324
date=1538433908]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=154.msg1323#msg1323
date=1538431750]
> [shadow=blue,left]There are a lot of versions out there but
only one of them came from a codex other than the Alexander
Codex. The city of the Gnostics.
>
> We have had the same KJV version for 400 years.If you do your
memory work from the KJV it is not going to change. on the other
hand, all the other versions are redone every other year or so.
>
> Blade[/shadow]
>
--- End Quote ---
To me, this statement seems a more logical reasoning behind
espousing a view of “KJV-Only”. I’m not up to snuff on the
irreconcilability between Gnostic and Christian belief systems,
nor am I much aware of the constant updating of newer versions
and the proposed reasoning behind the practice. Points like
those you just stated are very helpful to someone that wishes to
study history in their consideration Of whether or not they want
to fully commit themselves to one version over all others.
#Post#: 1334--------------------------------------------------
Re: Should Christians Use The KJV Only?
DIR By: guest5
Date: October 1, 2018, 10:59 pm
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I dunno how I got that weird layout of my last post lol
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