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       #Post#: 1270--------------------------------------------------
       Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: Scripter
       Date: September 30, 2018, 9:32 am
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       This is an intro video on giantism in Biblical and Sumerian
       texts and archeology.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeBfMDJUxSA&index=2&t=0s&list=PLE4B30764B2E348E2
       You will find the explanation as to why the evil nations in the
       pre-Israelite Judean area were to be defeated.  The topics of
       giantism and the evil nations are not two topics.
       Once you get to the line 'these stones are so large they cannot
       even be weighed...' you should stop and seriously think if you
       want to call yourself a uniformitarian in public any more.
       Resources like this are also found at the back of my book DELUGE
       OF SUSPICIONS which is in novel form.
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       Prob the most similar is Dona, K.  "Artifacts from the pre-flood
       world and fallen angels" presented by the Habsburg Haus curator,
       an Austrian museum.  Youtube.
       #Post#: 1277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: September 30, 2018, 2:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: Scripter link ---
       >
       > This is an intro video on giantism in Biblical and Sumerian
       texts and archeology.
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeBfMDJUxSA&index=2&t=0s&list=PLE4B30764B2E348E2
       >
       > You will find the explanation as to why the evil nations in
       the pre-Israelite Judean area were to be defeated.  The topics
       of giantism and the evil nations are not two topics.
       >
       > Once you get to the line 'these stones are so large they
       cannot even be weighed...' you should stop and seriously think
       if you want to call yourself a uniformitarian in public any
       more.
       >
       > Resources like this are also found at the back of my book
       DELUGE OF SUSPICIONS which is in novel form.
  HTML https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/131-0857293-6738607?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Sanford+Deluge+of+Suspicions
       >
       > Prob the most similar is Dona, K.  "Artifacts from the
       pre-flood world and fallen angels" presented by the Habsburg
       Haus curator, an Austrian museum.  Youtube.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 1284--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: Scripter
       Date: September 30, 2018, 5:06 pm
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       But statues are a "statement" about a monarch...not the same
       kind of information.
       #Post#: 1304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: September 30, 2018, 10:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: Scripter link ---
       >
       > But statues are a "statement" about a monarch...not the same
       kind of information.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]Again it comes down to what you believe. Do
       you believe what the BIBLE (KJV) tells you or do you believe the
       fellow down the road.
       Look to Gen Chapter 6 for the word GIANTS put the buy GOD!
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 1326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: Scripter
       Date: October 1, 2018, 8:01 pm
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       Blade,
       do you think that just because there is a 70 ft statue that the
       person was 70 ft?
       I certainly believe there were giants, but we are talking about
       something one step removed.
       #Post#: 1329--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: October 1, 2018, 8:41 pm
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       --- Quote from: Scripter link ---
       >
       > Blade,
       > do you think that just because there is a 70 ft statue that
       the person was 70 ft?
       >
       > I certainly believe there were giants, but we are talking
       about something one step removed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]No, but giants 36 foot or smaller are pretty
       good sized. Enough to pick up a 170 lb. axe on display in museum
       in Britain.
       I just ask you about what the Bible says. There were Giants.
       What is one step removed from that>?
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 1431--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: Scripter
       Date: October 5, 2018, 8:05 am
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       The axe and other artefacts are objective support; a statue is
       not.
       The fact of 32" wingspan dragonfly fossils supports giants; a
       statue does not.
       The video may have a bit of a point about the squaring of weight
       etc as a shape is doubled in size which is why the sizes of the
       giants of the Bible make sense to me.  He seems to have missed
       what environment there was while dinosaurs survived.  They were
       certainly 5x what we have today.  Maybe he realized you couldn't
       be a uniformitarian (believing that nothing cataclysmic has ever
       happened nor that there was a desing) and go very far into the
       actual physics of a dino-environment.  A physicist would need to
       weigh in on what factors would support things 5x what they are
       now:
       what levels of oxygen (we are at 20.5%)
       what air pressure (we are at 14)
       what level of gravity (don't know)
       etc.
       I don't need to be "needled" about the giants existing as
       Genesis says; you misunderstand.  I'm beyond that question and
       working on the exact physics of it, where possible.
       There are many logical problems with the Bible Skeptic counters;
       it would take a whole essay.
       #Post#: 1599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: October 13, 2018, 11:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: Scripter link ---
       >
       > The axe and other artefacts are objective support; a statue is
       not.
       >
       > The fact of 32" wingspan dragonfly fossils supports giants; a
       statue does not.
       >
       > The video may have a bit of a point about the squaring of
       weight etc as a shape is doubled in size which is why the sizes
       of the giants of the Bible make sense to me.  He seems to have
       missed what environment there was while dinosaurs survived.
       They were certainly 5x what we have today.  Maybe he realized
       you couldn't be a uniformitarian (believing that nothing
       cataclysmic has ever happened nor that there was a desing) and
       go very far into the actual physics of a dino-environment.  A
       physicist would need to weigh in on what factors would support
       things 5x what they are now:
       >
       > what levels of oxygen (we are at 20.5%)
       > what air pressure (we are at 14)
       > what level of gravity (don't know)
       > etc.
       >
       > I don't need to be "needled" about the giants existing as
       Genesis says; you misunderstand.  I'm beyond that question and
       working on the exact physics of it, where possible.
       >
       > There are many logical problems with the Bible Skeptic
       counters; it would take a whole essay.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]You give atmospheric pressures, etc. as the
       reason we had Giants in the land prior to Noah's Flood. There is
       some truth to this as the Behemoths with tails as a cedar tree
       grew to giagantic size. However, Once the "Sons of GOD" took
       man's daughters, Giants ( a different problem developed.)
       As the angels that did this were put in the bottomless pit and
       their children (the giants) were pitted against each other (to
       kill all). This was all prior to the Flood.
       What happened after the Flood. We find Giants there as well and
       they came from Ham.  Now God tells us there were only six people
       who were perfect. Perfect in what? Their DNA was perfect. and
       the SONs (three perfect sons) chose wives from the population
       prior to the flood. They were the ones that were less than
       perfect and two at least carried the chromosome for the Giants
       on their :X" genes.  Was this Chromosome a switch to simply turn
       On and Off the Growth Hormone in humans. Like most all lizards,
       if this chromosome switch was turned on, the human body would
       continue to grow throughout their lifetime. While most of the
       Biblical Giants (Ammorites, ec.) came from Ham and His wife,
       Japheth and His wife are attributed to at least one giant. Shem
       and His wife had no giants.
       The bible tells us they were sometimes as tall as cedar trees.
       These cedar trees (implied) Lebanon cedars grew to a height of
       36'. That is a big person.
       No statues do not imply Giants, however pictures do. These pics
       are the Egyptian lithographs and they do show extremely large
       people lording over all others.
       Nimrod was a Giant. It is thought He did something to himself to
       become large but the Angels (fallen and New) would have the
       knowledge to help him to become a giant.  Gilgamesh, the
       historical king of Uruk has a statue on the walls of the City
       with Him holding a Lion as if it were a mountain lion ( a much
       smaller version of a African Lion)
       We have reports of a Red Headed Giant, with six fingers and
       toes, having eaten a squad of soldiers; was finally killed by
       those who found the bones to that first squad. The story leaked
       out by the pilot who flew the Giant to a government facility.
       YouTube has the story. "The Kendahar Giant"
       To be truthful, I doubt this ever happened but it is still there
       for all to see. Over the Years no one has had the proof that it
       did not happen.
       It is however a fact that the Smithonian  Institute  has
       confiscated most all the remains of extremely tall giants from
       around the world. They are never placed on display but rather
       hidden from public site. WHY?
       you may not need or want to be needled about this but you want
       to dispute its biblical implications without any rebuttal. Sorry
       no can do!
       Blade
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       #Post#: 2248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: November 16, 2018, 5:26 pm
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       Chuck Missler | Angels, Nephilim, Aliens, Gen 6
       This is the best address of these topics I have ever heard.
       If you've ever wondered about the Fallen Angels, the mixing with
       women in the earth, Nephilim and Genesis chapter 6 & more, then
       watch. Chuck Missler is very impressive.
       28 minutes
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       Re: Giantism and evil nations are the same topic
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: November 23, 2018, 7:48 pm
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       FINALLY! The TRUTH! Dr. Michael Heiser on How the Nephilim
       REALLY Survived the Flood
       15 minutes - Very Good
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       Timothy Alberino Explains Where The NEPHILIM GIANTS Are Hiding
       NOW
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