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       #Post#: 34496--------------------------------------------------
       suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: August 10, 2021, 10:33 am
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       I'm not sure where to post this...
       I'm not 100% yet, well never 100% anymore but back to where I
       was...so any response I give with be gingerly given but here is
       the question I pose today.
       How is suffering a picture for us of God Love.
       Before you answer, we know some obvious about God's Love to us,
       but what about those things that are not as obvious like His
       ability to relate to us.
       As to the rest of the question, how is our suffering a picture
       of God Love?
       How is our suffering helping others understand God Love?
       How is others suffering helping us understand God Love?
       How does persecution (to add a more specific suffering to our
       list) showing God Love?
       How can we allow our suffering to demonstrate God Love to the
       world?
       (NO JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS WILL BE TOLERATED BY ME)
       #Post#: 34500--------------------------------------------------
       Re: suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: guest58
       Date: August 10, 2021, 11:25 am
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       (NO JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS WILL BE TOLERATED BY ME)[/size]...but,
       but, knowing GOD judges evil is a great comfort to me and
       knowing that HE will swat our butts for our foolishness also
       comforts me...
       #Post#: 34501--------------------------------------------------
       Re: suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: August 10, 2021, 11:33 am
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       --- Quote from: Ted T. link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > (NO JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS WILL BE TOLERATED BY
       ME)[/size]...but, but, knowing GOD judges evil is a great
       comfort to me and knowing that HE will swat our butts for our
       foolishness also comforts me...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       that is God's judgment, not ours...there is a difference, but I
       do appreciate the comment, amen, suffering is to be viewed
       according to scripture as God's correction.
       In fact, maybe we can expand on this some...it is both
       correction and comfort but it also shows whose we are.  But not
       only whose we are but who He is.
       #Post#: 34502--------------------------------------------------
       Re: suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: August 10, 2021, 11:36 am
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       I think some people can mistake "suffering" and "persecution"
       for reality, meaning some things are part of life. For instance,
       I never feel "picked on" or persecuted, I never feel like the
       underdog and I never claim to be a victim.
       I have pain, depression, other health issues and they affect
       every part of my life. I don't sit and dwell on my sufferings
       and pain, my afflictions and how they might be "helping" God or
       that they are His will for my life.
       #Post#: 34504--------------------------------------------------
       Re: suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: August 10, 2021, 12:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > I think some people can mistake "suffering" and "persecution"
       for reality, meaning some things are part of life. For instance,
       I never feel "picked on" or persecuted, I never feel like the
       underdog and I never claim to be a victim.
       >
       >
       > I have pain, depression, other health issues and they affect
       every part of my life. I don't sit and dwell on my sufferings
       and pain, my afflictions and how they might be "helping" God or
       that they are His will for my life.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       When it became obvious that I was going to be in long term non
       stop pain, maybe even for the rest of my life, I (should be
       obvious) obviously prayed for God to heal me.  Soon it also
       became obvious that God had another plan.  At that point, I told
       God that I would endure as long as I could see He was using it.
       Some days it's hard to see how or where He is using it, but most
       days I see His glory shining through it and that encourages me.
       That small bit of testimony reveals two ways that suffering can
       glorify God or show God's Love...endurance and encouragement as
       we allow Him to have it and work through it what He desires for
       it to accomplish Romans 8:28
       #Post#: 34505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: August 10, 2021, 12:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > I think some people can mistake "suffering" and "persecution"
       for reality, meaning some things are part of life. For instance,
       I never feel "picked on" or persecuted, I never feel like the
       underdog and I never claim to be a victim.
       >
       >
       > I have pain, depression, other health issues and they affect
       every part of my life. I don't sit and dwell on my sufferings
       and pain, my afflictions and how they might be "helping" God or
       that they are His will for my life.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I forgot to say this when responding...I agree and think it is
       insightful what you said about people not being able to
       distinguish between suffering and persecution sometimes...here,
       we have experience not only with persecution but people and
       people groups close to our hearts that are truly persecuted and
       so I wouldn't have thought about people seeing them as the same
       thing...thanks for the insight.
       #Post#: 34573--------------------------------------------------
       Re: suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: garee
       Date: August 14, 2021, 9:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > I think some people can mistake "suffering" and "persecution"
       for reality, meaning some things are part of life. For instance,
       I never feel "picked on" or persecuted, I never feel like the
       underdog and I never claim to be a victim.
       >
       >
       > I have pain, depression, other health issues and they affect
       every part of my life. I don't sit and dwell on my sufferings
       and pain, my afflictions and how they might be "helping" God or
       that they are His will for my life.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I would offer I think both kinds working as one. Literal fleshly
       and our minds .The idea as a gift of never being picked on or
       persecuted seems to be one working according to your seeking, a
       blessing of God .The physical sufferings can sometimes and does
       require more aid  ..we can pray in a hope of less sufferings
       encouraging each other but in the end it is between the work of
       the Father and Son that the will of God is revealed.
       Its the kind of religion God sets his approval on the elders as
       widows  and the orphans as fatherless. In that way we were all
       widows and not members as the bride of Christ and were all
       orphans without a heavenly father. I would offer prayer in
       regard to your burden in a hope our Father would give strength .
       James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father
       is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction,
       and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
       
       #Post#: 35610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: November 10, 2021, 6:40 pm
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       Re: suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: December 1, 2021, 5:08 pm
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       #Post#: 40587--------------------------------------------------
       Re: suffering and God Love...
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: July 4, 2022, 8:57 am
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