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#Post#: 33147--------------------------------------------------
Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
DIR By: guest8
Date: July 11, 2021, 12:14 pm
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Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that animals
do not have souls! but from this statement and others they do!
Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial upon
the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every
living soul died in the sea."
Blade
#Post#: 33150--------------------------------------------------
Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
DIR By: guest17
Date: July 11, 2021, 4:14 pm
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that
animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others
they do!
>
>
> Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial
upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and
every living soul died in the sea."
>
>
> Blade
>
--- End Quote ---
If they are alive then I think they are living souls or living
beings still having the breath of life.
#Post#: 33208--------------------------------------------------
Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
DIR By: guest8
Date: July 11, 2021, 6:56 pm
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--- Quote from: truthjourney link ---
>
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1351.msg33147#msg33147
date=1626023646]
> Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that
animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others
they do!
>
>
> Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial
upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and
every living soul died in the sea."
>
>
> Blade
>
--- End Quote ---
If they are alive then I think they are living souls or living
beings still having the breath of life.
[/quote]
YES, but many believe that dogs, cats, etc. have no soul as we
do. the next questions is where do their souls go after their
death?
Blade
#Post#: 33210--------------------------------------------------
Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
DIR By: guest17
Date: July 11, 2021, 7:47 pm
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=1351.msg33150#msg33150
date=1626038089]
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1351.msg33147#msg33147
date=1626023646]
> Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that
animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others
they do!
>
>
> Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial
upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and
every living soul died in the sea."
>
>
> Blade
>
--- End Quote ---
If they are alive then I think they are living souls or living
beings still having the breath of life.
[/quote]
YES, but many believe that dogs, cats, etc. have no soul as we
do. the next questions is where do their souls go after their
death?
Blade
[/quote]
I wouldn't want to go beyond what is written. Both man and
animals are living souls while alive and both received the
breath of life from God and all souls belong to God.
Job 12:10 In his hand is the life of every living thing and the
breath of all mankind.
Ecclesiastes 3:19-20 For what happens to the children of man
and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies
the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no
advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one
place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 And the dust returns to the earth as it was,
and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
#Post#: 33215--------------------------------------------------
Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
DIR By: guest58
Date: July 12, 2021, 11:03 am
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
> Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that
animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others
they do!Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his
vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and
every living soul died in the sea."Blade
--- End Quote ---
WE are also taught that the serpent was MORE CUNNING in evil
that the rest of the animals and that he was also cursed for his
sinfulness MORE THAN the other animals from which we can infer
that the animals are sinful though not as leavened in sin as the
serpent.
This sin of violence was also judged of the animals who died
with sinful mankind in the flood.
IF you are looking of strange verses and interpretations, it is
a possibility that some of the fallen angels flung down to the
earth to sheol are sown into the world as animals...While I
strongly deny this occurs with the sinful elect I see no reason
to deny that the non-elect who are the ones who claim to have
experienced past lives and also claim human souls reincarnate as
animals are liars.
We also know that the wicked RETURN to Sheol at their death; the
eisegetical rendering of return as to go into to help us to
avoid any hint of pre-conception life notwithstanding. PS 9:17
The wicked will return to Sheol—all the nations who forget God.
#Post#: 33216--------------------------------------------------
Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
DIR By: guest8
Date: July 12, 2021, 1:52 pm
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--- Quote from: Ted T. link ---
>
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1351.msg33147#msg33147
date=1626023646] Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been
told that animals do not have souls! but from this statement and
others they do!Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out
his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man:
and every living soul died in the sea."Blade
--- End Quote ---
WE are also taught that the serpent was MORE CUNNING in evil
that the rest of the animals and that he was also cursed for his
sinfulness MORE THAN the other animals from which we can infer
that the animals are sinful though not as leavened in sin as the
serpent.
This sin of violence was also judged of the animals who died
with sinful mankind in the flood.
IF you are looking of strange verses and interpretations, it is
a possibility that some of the fallen angels flung down to the
earth to sheol are sown into the world as animals...While I
strongly deny this occurs with the sinful elect I see no reason
to deny that the non-elect who are the ones who claim to have
experienced past lives and also claim human souls reincarnate as
animals are liars.
[size=24px]We also know that the wicked RETURN to Sheol at their
death; the eisegetical rendering of return as to go into to help
us to avoid any hint of pre-conception life notwithstanding. PS
9:17 The wicked will return to Sheol—all the nations who forget
God.[/..size]
[/quote]
Psa 9:17 (KJV).. "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all
the nations that forget God."
The above scripture does not say the wicked return to Hell but
that they are sent there. Ted, you got wild on the animals. The
Breath of Life from the creator is the Soul of us all, animals,
fish, bugs included.
Blade
#Post#: 33276--------------------------------------------------
Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
DIR By: guest58
Date: July 13, 2021, 11:06 am
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=Ted T. link=topic=1351.msg33215#msg33215
date=1626105799]
>
> Psa 9:17 (KJV).. "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and
all the nations that forget God."
>
> The above scripture does not say the wicked return to Hell but
that they are sent there. Ted, you got wild on the animals. The
Breath of Life from the creator is the Soul of us all, animals,
fish, bugs included.
>
> Blade
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes, I agree that the word soul probably ny means individual
alright.
As for Psa 9:17, yes the ENGLISH does say they were sent there
but the Hebrew word for go down (etc) shub, Strong’s H7725, to
turn back, to return.
Word Origin a prim. root
Definition:(0, 19, 32)]to turn back, return So where do we take
our first and most probable meaning from, the Hebrew as written
or the English eisegetical false reinterpretation of the Hebrew
that totally reverses the meaning of the verse!!!? Just because
you have missed this little eisegetical deke in your years of
study does not mean THEY RETURN TO SHEOL is wrong.
#Post#: 33290--------------------------------------------------
Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
DIR By: guest8
Date: July 13, 2021, 7:03 pm
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--- Quote from: Ted T. link ---
>
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1351.msg33216#msg33216
date=1626115925]
> [quote author=Ted T. link=topic=1351.msg33215#msg33215
date=1626105799]
>
> Psa 9:17 (KJV).. "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and
all the nations that forget God."
>
> The above scripture does not say the wicked return to Hell but
that they are sent there. Ted, you got wild on the animals. The
Breath of Life from the creator is the Soul of us all, animals,
fish, bugs included.
>
> Blade
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes, I agree that the word soul probably ny means individual
alright.
As for Psa 9:17, yes the ENGLISH does say they were sent there
but the Hebrew word for go down (etc) shub, Strong’s H7725, to
turn back, to return.
Word Origin a prim. root
Definition:(0, 19, 32)]to turn back, return So where do we take
our first and most probable meaning from, the Hebrew as written
or the English eisegetical false reinterpretation of the Hebrew
that totally reverses the meaning of the verse!!!? Just because
you have missed this little eisegetical deke in your years of
study does not mean THEY RETURN TO SHEOL is wrong.
[/quote]
Yes, I see: the phrase is a imperfect 3rd person masculine verb
and by looking at the context, we find that they (wicked) are
turned (returned) back to Hell (Lake of Fire, in English, Hell
is either) because they (wicked) were in Hell (Sheol- the
holding place) from their death.
Thank you for bringing my attention to that, I missed it.
Blade
#Post#: 34574--------------------------------------------------
Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
DIR By: garee
Date: August 14, 2021, 9:23 pm
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that
animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others
they do!
>
>
> Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial
upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and
every living soul died in the sea."
>
>
> Blade
>
--- End Quote ---
I would offer the sea as salty water represent judgment. Salt is
used that way throughout the Bible . The Sea gives up the dead
not living souls
James 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries?
either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water
and fresh.
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