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Re: What scripture says we must believe...
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: July 10, 2021, 8:01 pm
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When I think of the really early Christian churches I think of
Paul and his disciples starting churches all over Macedonia,
Greece an Asia Minor and beyond. I do not think of Peter or Rome
or the Catholic church.
#Post#: 33209--------------------------------------------------
Re: What scripture says we must believe...
DIR By: guest8
Date: July 11, 2021, 7:00 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
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> When I think of the really early Christian churches I think of
Paul and his disciples starting churches all over Macedonia,
Greece an Asia Minor and beyond. I do not think of Peter or Rome
or the Catholic church.
>
--- End Quote ---
I might add that the early Roman Church for the most part,
shared all the problems of the other churches in the areas you
spoke of. Of course the Catholic church we know of did not come
about until around 375 AD.
Thanks for listening
Blade
#Post#: 33211--------------------------------------------------
Re: What scripture says we must believe...
DIR By: guest125
Date: July 11, 2021, 9:20 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> When I think of the really early Christian churches I think of
Paul and his disciples starting churches all over Macedonia,
Greece an Asia Minor and beyond. I do not think of Peter or Rome
or the Catholic church.
>
--- End Quote ---
Other than in Roman Catholic tradition, I don't know of Peter
founding or leading any church in Rome. He was in leadership at
the "church" (group of believers) in Jerusalem, and later seen
among the church of believers in Antioch. When Paul wrote to
the church in Rome (the book of Romans) there was nothing
addressed to Peter whatsoever.
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Re: What scripture says we must believe...
DIR By: guest8
Date: July 12, 2021, 1:59 pm
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--- Quote from: Mr E link ---
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> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1329.msg33125#msg33125
date=1625965263]
> When I think of the really early Christian churches I think of
Paul and his disciples starting churches all over Macedonia,
Greece an Asia Minor and beyond. I do not think of Peter or Rome
or the Catholic church.
>
--- End Quote ---
Other than in Roman Catholic tradition, I don't know of Peter
founding or leading any church in Rome. He was in leadership at
the "church" (group of believers) in Jerusalem, and later seen
among the church of believers in Antioch. When Paul wrote to
the church in Rome (the book of Romans) there was nothing
addressed to Peter whatsoever.
[/quote]
I agree and will further submit that Peter never did make it to
ROME. He is not the first Bishop (pope) as their claim.
Blade
#Post#: 33220--------------------------------------------------
Re: What scripture says we must believe...
DIR By: guest125
Date: July 12, 2021, 2:45 pm
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Not sure.... but I do know that there is no record in scripture
of Peter in Rome, or the head of the group of believers gathered
there that Paul addressed.
"Tradition" says that Peter was crucified by Rome, in Rome-- but
none of that is mentioned in scripture and "the story" doesn't
emerge until many years later. (like 250 years later).
Peter, James and John, the same three who were with Jesus in
the garden and on the mountain were the leaders of the early
church, and some time after that Paul too joined the early
Christians in establishing a ministry primarily aimed at Gentile
believers near and far.
#Post#: 33223--------------------------------------------------
Re: What scripture says we must believe...
DIR By: guest8
Date: July 12, 2021, 9:15 pm
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--- Quote from: Mr E link ---
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> Not sure.... but I do know that there is no record in
scripture of Peter in Rome, or the head of the group of
believers gathered there that Paul addressed.
>
> "Tradition" says that Peter was crucified by Rome, in Rome--
but none of that is mentioned in scripture and "the story"
doesn't emerge until many years later. (like 250 years later).
>
> Peter, James and John, the same three who were with Jesus in
the garden and on the mountain were the leaders of the early
church, and some time after that Paul too joined the early
Christians in establishing a ministry primarily aimed at Gentile
believers near and far.
>
--- End Quote ---
According to all historical facts I could find, Peter never went
to Rome.
By the way, If one looks closely, Peter, James (John's brother)
and John were the three inside people closest to Jesus Christ.
Most all important dates, these three were with Him.
Blade
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