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Prayer for faith
By: guest24 Date: June 28, 2021, 1:18 pm
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Okay, I am so tired of the false accusations, however, I will
not be silenced when it comes to Christ.
So, today, I am looking into faith and I found two very
interesting passages...Luke 17:5 where the apostles asked the
Lord to increase their faith and Luke 22:32 where Jesus talks
about praying that Peter's faith would not waiver....so the
question, when was the last time we prayed for an increase in
our faith or when asked what we could pray for, we asked for
prayer for faith instead of assuming we have faith and that is
enough? Are we praying for one another here to increase in
faith? Or are we just focused on our own judgments and personal
agendas?
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Re: Prayer for faith
By: patrick jane Date: June 28, 2021, 1:27 pm
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[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1326.msg32497#msg32497
date=1624904330]
Okay, I am so tired of the false accusations, however, I will
not be silenced when it comes to Christ.
So, today, I am looking into faith and I found two very
interesting passages...Luke 17:5 where the apostles asked the
Lord to increase their faith and Luke 22:32 where Jesus talks
about praying that Peter's faith would not waiver....so the
question, when was the last time we prayed for an increase in
our faith or when asked what we could pray for, we asked for
prayer for faith instead of assuming we have faith and that is
enough? Are we praying for one another here to increase in
faith? Or are we just focused on our own judgments and personal
agendas?
[/quote]I have recently prayed for my faith to be "stronger" as
in "increased" and in the past I have prayed for my dad and his
faith/belief. I need to do this more often.
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Re: Prayer for faith
By: guest24 Date: June 28, 2021, 1:59 pm
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When I am asked to pray for someone, especially healing, I pray
that theirs and/or someone elses faith would exist or increase
as a result of God's will being carried out...I just rarely hear
others pray this way which makes me wonder how much stronger the
"church" would be if we began praying for each others faith as
per these two passages...just a question
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Re: Prayer for faith
By: guest125 Date: June 28, 2021, 5:02 pm
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When the disciples asked (demanded) that Jesus 'increase their
faith," -- what was his response? Did you consider what he
said while you were thinking about this? -just curious.
Interesting too that when Jesus prayed for Peter, he didn't pray
that Peter's faith 'would increase.' Rather he asked God to
grant that Peter's faith wouldn't "cease" (fail).
Have you pondered that faith is something you have or don't
have, and a little or a lot is not of any consequence. You are
either doing faith, or you have stopped doing faith. (acting in
faith, or not).
He really seems to be saying that even the tiniest amount is all
that is required.
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Re: Prayer for faith
By: guest116 Date: June 28, 2021, 6:37 pm
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Both views are interesting viewpoints. Jesus never asked from
what I can tell, and I am no expert on this, for anyone's faith
to increase. He asks it to be healed, for the person to be
stronger in their faith, and like that. Are we just dealing
with semantics?
I think a prayer about another faith to God should be more in
the line that they see their faith and feel their faith more
clearly and that God's will be done for them. But that is just
how I have always preceded.
Prayers can always be a touchy subject as it is such a personal
thing, however, the more we openly discuss our approach the more
we can understand one and another views and thus we communicate
better. That's just my random thought.
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Re: Prayer for faith
By: guest125 Date: June 28, 2021, 6:47 pm
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=1326.msg32510#msg32510 date=1624923452]
Both views are interesting viewpoints. Jesus never asked from
what I can tell, and I am no expert on this, for anyone's faith
to increase. He asks it to be healed, for the person to be
stronger in their faith, and like that. Are we just dealing
with semantics?
I think a prayer about another faith to God should be more in
the line that they see their faith and feel their faith more
clearly and that God's will be done for them. But that is just
how I have always preceded.
Prayers can always be a touchy subject as it is such a personal
thing, however, the more we openly discuss our approach the more
we can understand one and another views and thus we communicate
better. That's just my random thought.
[/quote]
It's about relationship. It's a Dad saying to his kid-- "Trust
me." The kid either does or he doesn't. The Father responds
saying-- if you trusted me even a little.... even the tiniest
amount-- you'd know I'm not going to let you die.
--but even more than that, we are not talking about an earthly
Father with limited power and ability and wisdom. We are
talking about an all powerful Heavenly Father who's boundless
and righteous and loving toward us. A Father that is able to
say 'Trust me' and knowing who He is we don't have to fear even
death, because He is able to raise us from the dead.
Yeah, though He slay me, still I will hope in Him. (Job 13)
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Re: Prayer for faith
By: guest24 Date: June 29, 2021, 8:47 am
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=1326.msg32510#msg32510 date=1624923452]
Both views are interesting viewpoints. Jesus never asked from
what I can tell, and I am no expert on this, for anyone's faith
to increase. He asks it to be healed, for the person to be
stronger in their faith, and like that. Are we just dealing
with semantics?
I think a prayer about another faith to God should be more in
the line that they see their faith and feel their faith more
clearly and that God's will be done for them. But that is just
how I have always preceded.
Prayers can always be a touchy subject as it is such a personal
thing, however, the more we openly discuss our approach the more
we can understand one and another views and thus we communicate
better. That's just my random thought.
[/quote]I will respond to you but Mr. E was hateful and demanded
I never speak to him again, so I am honoring his hate towards
me.
I did a study on the prayer of Love...iow's how can we pray in
Love. As a result of that, what I came to realize is that a
prayer of Love always centers around God being glorified. So,
back to the point of the topic, if God heals the person, how is
God glorified? Do others know that God is the one who healed?
Does the person healed know it was God? Are they actually
listening to God or are they just playing the game to get what
they want? Things like that.
When my health issues came into the foreground, I prayed in
faith like everyone else who suffers like this that God would
heal me...God then reminded me it was about Him and not me and
so my prayer changed to, whatever you desire, just use it to
glorify YOU. Since then I have seen Him use it in a mighty way
and so I endure until such time as HE, not me, chooses to free
me from this fleshly bondage. There are examples all through
scripture of things people needed to endure because stripping
away all suffering is NOT His earthly plan. The question then
becomes, can you see the God who Loves and His Love in the midst
of the suffering and pain? Thus a prayer that faith would
increase through the thing we are asking prayer for.
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Re: Prayer for faith
By: guest125 Date: June 29, 2021, 9:15 am
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[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1326.msg32520#msg32520
date=1624974478]
[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=1326.msg32510#msg32510 date=1624923452]
Both views are interesting viewpoints. Jesus never asked from
what I can tell, and I am no expert on this, for anyone's faith
to increase. He asks it to be healed, for the person to be
stronger in their faith, and like that. Are we just dealing
with semantics?
I think a prayer about another faith to God should be more in
the line that they see their faith and feel their faith more
clearly and that God's will be done for them. But that is just
how I have always preceded.
Prayers can always be a touchy subject as it is such a personal
thing, however, the more we openly discuss our approach the more
we can understand one and another views and thus we communicate
better. That's just my random thought.
[/quote]I will respond to you but Mr. E was hateful and demanded
I never speak to him again, so I am honoring his hate towards
me.
I did a study on the prayer of Love...iow's how can we pray in
Love. As a result of that, what I came to realize is that a
prayer of Love always centers around God being glorified. So,
back to the point of the topic, if God heals the person, how is
God glorified? Do others know that God is the one who healed?
Does the person healed know it was God? Are they actually
listening to God or are they just playing the game to get what
they want? Things like that.
When my health issues came into the foreground, I prayed in
faith like everyone else who suffers like this that God would
heal me...God then reminded me it was about Him and not me and
so my prayer changed to, whatever you desire, just use it to
glorify YOU. Since then I have seen Him use it in a mighty way
and so I endure until such time as HE, not me, chooses to free
me from this fleshly bondage. There are examples all through
scripture of things people needed to endure because stripping
away all suffering is NOT His earthly plan. The question then
becomes, can you see the God who Loves and His Love in the midst
of the suffering and pain? Thus a prayer that faith would
increase through the thing we are asking prayer for.
[/quote]
Lori- you lied about me and now you have repeated the same lie.
"Mr. E was hateful and demanded I never speak to him again"
That's a lie. That's a hateful lie.
And you are a liar.
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Re: Prayer for faith
By: guest73 Date: October 11, 2021, 10:04 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb2Q9aNXGr0
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Re: Prayer for faith
By: patrick jane Date: November 21, 2021, 8:33 pm
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