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#Post#: 3116--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: Olde Tymer
Date: January 9, 2019, 10:52 am
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Q: At Matt 16:18, Jesus said: "You are Peter, and upon this rock
I will build my church; and the gates of the netherworld shall
not prevail against it." What is the meaning of that verse?
A: Basically it's saying that should one of Christ's true
believing followers slip through a crack and end up in the wrong
place, they will be able to stroll right on out of there like a
tourist in Paris; likely guided on their journey by a celestial
being, maybe similar to Peter's experience when he escaped jail
in Acts 12:3-11.
I should point out that if any one particular church were the
"my church" that Christ spoke of in Matt 16:18, then none of its
members-- not one --would end up in hell; but I suspect that all
churches, regardless of their denominational affiliation, expect
to lose a number of their followers to an uncertain fate; which
reminds me of a line from the movie AVATAR spoken by Colonel
Miles Quaritch, played by Stephen Lang, that goes like this:
It is my job to keep you alive.
I will not succeed . . not with all of you.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 107 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 6,518,012 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
_
#Post#: 3135--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: guest8
Date: January 10, 2019, 10:14 pm
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--- Quote from: Olde Tymer link ---
>
> .
> Q: At Matt 16:18, Jesus said: "You are Peter, and upon this
rock I will build my church; and the gates of the netherworld
shall not prevail against it." What is the meaning of that
verse?
>
> A: Basically it's saying that should one of Christ's true
believing followers slip through a crack and end up in the wrong
place, they will be able to stroll right on out of there like a
tourist in Paris; likely guided on their journey by a celestial
being, maybe similar to Peter's experience when he escaped jail
in Acts 12:3-11.
>
> I should point out that if any one particular church were the
"my church" that Christ spoke of in Matt 16:18, then none of its
members-- not one --would end up in hell; but I suspect that all
churches, regardless of their denominational affiliation, expect
to lose a number of their followers to an uncertain fate; which
reminds me of a line from the movie AVATAR spoken by Colonel
Miles Quaritch, played by Stephen Lang, that goes like this:
>
> It is my job to keep you alive.
> I will not succeed . . not with all of you.
>
> POP CLOCK UPDATE: 107 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 6,518,012 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
> _
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]This was Jesus telling Peter that HE will
build His Church upon this ROCK (in the Name of Jesus Christ).
No, Peter's name meant STONE
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 3141--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: Olde Tymer
Date: January 11, 2019, 9:06 am
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I once heard of a preacher asked by a young member of his
congregation what he would have to do bad enough to wind up in
hell.
The preacher answered: You don't have to do anything
particularly bad to go to hell; no, just bide your time and
you'll wind up there without even trying because hell is the
default.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 109 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 6,639,844 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
_
#Post#: 3170--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: Olde Tymer
Date: January 13, 2019, 10:01 am
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There's been a quite a bit of flap in the media of late about a
gender issue called misogyny-- defined by Webster's as hatred of
women --while very little flap about misandry; defined by
Webster's as hatred of men.
In the end, it will be a man who casts women with gender-related
anger into the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:10-15 and
permanently ruins any chances they might have had for happiness
in the future. For all eternity, condemned man haters will grind
their teeth with hot tears and white-knuckled fury that they
ultimately lost out on everything because of one lone male's
obsessive control over their lives.
● John 5:22-23 . .The Father judges no one, but has
committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son
just as they honor the Father.
● Acts 17:31 . . God has set a day when he will judge the
world with justice by the man he has appointed
NOTE: Misandry and feminism aren't joined at the hip; viz: not
all feminists hate men. Classical feminism is typically
peaceful, objective, and political while misandry is typically
malicious, emotional, and personal; i.e. classical feminism is
typically persuasive and diplomatic, while misandry is typically
demanding, hostile, implacable, and unreasonable. Classical
feminism seeks equality with men, while misandry seeks to
destroy men.
Seeing as how heaven is a place of peace, then bitter people
seething with unresolved gender issues cannot be allowed there
because they would turn heaven into a world of hatred,
complaining, quarreling, and discontent like they've made the
Earth.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 111 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 6,761,676 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
_
#Post#: 3177--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: guest8
Date: January 13, 2019, 8:27 pm
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--- Quote from: Olde Tymer link ---
>
> .
> There's been a quite a bit of flap in the media of late about
a gender issue called misogyny-- defined by Webster's as hatred
of women --while very little flap about misandry; defined by
Webster's as hatred of men.
>
> In the end, it will be a man who casts women with
gender-related anger into the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev
20:10-15 and permanently ruins any chances they might have had
for happiness in the future. For all eternity, condemned man
haters will grind their teeth with hot tears and white-knuckled
fury that they ultimately lost out on everything because of one
lone male's obsessive control over their lives.
>
> ● John 5:22-23 . .The Father judges no one, but has
committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son
just as they honor the Father.
>
> ● Acts 17:31 . . God has set a day when he will judge
the world with justice by the man he has appointed
>
> NOTE: Misandry and feminism aren't joined at the hip; viz: not
all feminists hate men. Classical feminism is typically
peaceful, objective, and political while misandry is typically
malicious, emotional, and personal; i.e. classical feminism is
typically persuasive and diplomatic, while misandry is typically
demanding, hostile, implacable, and unreasonable. Classical
feminism seeks equality with men, while misandry seeks to
destroy men.
>
> Seeing as how heaven is a place of peace, then bitter people
seething with unresolved gender issues cannot be allowed there
because they would turn heaven into a world of hatred,
complaining, quarreling, and discontent like they've made the
Earth.
>
> POP CLOCK UPDATE: 111 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 6,761,676 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
> _
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=Blue,left]Olde Tymer.....tell me you are not preaching
this garbage:"In the end, it will be a man who casts women with
gender-related anger into the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev
20:10-15 and permanently ruins any chances they might have had
for happiness in the future. For all eternity, condemned man
haters will grind their teeth with hot tears and white-knuckled
fury that they ultimately lost out on everything because of one
lone male's obsessive control over their lives."
I would suggest staying with scripture and letting GOD decide
who HE wants to throw into the Lake of Fire.
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 3203--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: Olde Tymer
Date: January 15, 2019, 2:44 pm
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.
Whether death in the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:10-15
is quick or slow; surely either way no one wants such a fate in
their future. It would be better to avoid the lake altogether
and take up residence in the new cosmos where everyone is
immortal and enjoying life to the fullest in a world where there
is neither war, nor crime, nor poverty, nor hate, discontent,
nor sickness.
The first death is mandatory, but not the second; there's a
God-given way for people to get out of it that requires no merit
on their part.
● 2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ reconciling the world to
Himself, not counting their trespasses against them.
.
In other words: when God makes peace with a sinner, He stops
building an indictment against them and the previous indictment
is thrown out; or rather I should say: it's resolved by means of
Christ's crucifixion.
● Isa 53:6 . .We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each
of us has turned to his own way; and The Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
● 1John 2:2 . . He is the propitiation for our sins: and
not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 113 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 6,883,508 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
_
#Post#: 3209--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: guest8
Date: January 15, 2019, 10:31 pm
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--- Quote from: Olde Tymer link ---
>
> .
> Whether death in the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev
20:10-15 is quick or slow; surely either way no one wants such a
fate in their future. It would be better to avoid the lake
altogether and take up residence in the new cosmos where
everyone is immortal and enjoying life to the fullest in a world
where there is neither war, nor crime, nor poverty, nor hate,
discontent, nor sickness.
>
> The first death is mandatory, but not the second; there's a
God-given way for people to get out of it that requires no merit
on their part.
>
> ● 2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ reconciling the world
to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them.
> .
> In other words: when God makes peace with a sinner, He stops
building an indictment against them and the previous indictment
is thrown out; or rather I should say: it's resolved by means of
Christ's crucifixion.
>
> ● Isa 53:6 . .We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each
of us has turned to his own way; and The Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
>
> ● 1John 2:2 . . He is the propitiation for our sins: and
not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
>
> POP CLOCK UPDATE: 113 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 6,883,508 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
> _
>
--- End Quote ---
Ole TImer...You sent this mail to me and I thought it was
appropriate for others to see.
Ole Timersaid:".
[shadow=blue,left]Women are not a protected species. There are
just as many, if not more, women in hell as men. God is not
biased.
I don't know how old you are Bladerunner, nor the condition of
your health; but I suggest using what time you have remaining to
prepare yourself for the worst when you pass on to the other
side."
It is so sad, that your heart seems to be that hard......
Blade[/shadow]
_
#Post#: 3211--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: guest8
Date: January 15, 2019, 10:46 pm
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=131.msg3203#msg3203
date=1547585044]
> .
> Whether death in the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev
20:10-15 is quick or slow; surely either way no one wants such a
fate in their future. It would be better to avoid the lake
altogether and take up residence in the new cosmos where
everyone is immortal and enjoying life to the fullest in a world
where there is neither war, nor crime, nor poverty, nor hate,
discontent, nor sickness.
>
> The first death is mandatory, but not the second; there's a
God-given way for people to get out of it that requires no merit
on their part.
>
> ● 2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ reconciling the world
to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them.
> .
> In other words: when God makes peace with a sinner, He stops
building an indictment against them and the previous indictment
is thrown out; or rather I should say: it's resolved by means of
Christ's crucifixion.
>
> ● Isa 53:6 . .We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each
of us has turned to his own way; and The Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
>
> ● 1John 2:2 . . He is the propitiation for our sins: and
not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
>
> POP CLOCK UPDATE: 113 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 6,883,508 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
> _
>
--- End Quote ---
Ole TImer...You sent this mail to me and I thought it was
appropriate for others to see.
Ole Timersaid:".
[shadow=blue,left]Women are not a protected species. There are
just as many, if not more, women in hell as men. God is not
biased.
I don't know how old you are Bladerunner, nor the condition of
your health; but I suggest using what time you have remaining to
prepare yourself for the worst when you pass on to the other
side."
It is so sad, that your heart seems to be that hard......
Blade[/shadow]
_
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
There will be many who do not die the first death. 1 thes
4:16-17
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 3235--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: Olde Tymer
Date: January 17, 2019, 8:26 am
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● Luke 16:24-26 . . Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and
send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water
and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame. But
Abraham said: Between us and you there is a great chasm fixed,
so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be
able, and that none may cross over from there to us.
The Greek word for "great chasm" refers to a nondescript space,
viz: a gap, without really specifying width, depth, or design.
The distance across can't be too much otherwise Abraham and the
rich man would've had trouble hearing and understanding one
another's speech. Apparently translators assumed the gap was
large so they added the word "great". It seems far more likely
to me that the chasm Abraham spoke of is a sort of crevasse just
wide enough to prevent pedestrian traffic and deep enough to
discourage attempts.
Anyway, point being: I'm heaven-bound; but I'm not so sure about
many of my friends, relatives, and associates. If they fail to
make the cut, I'm crossing my fingers that there will be some
way that I can contact them in the afterlife after we've all
passed on. It disturbs me to think there's a possibility I might
not be allowed to see any of them ever again until the day of
our final good-byes during the event planned for Rev 20:11-15.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 115 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 7,005,340 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
_
#Post#: 3237--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
DIR By: guest8
Date: January 17, 2019, 10:33 am
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--- Quote from: Olde Tymer link ---
>
> .
> ● Luke 16:24-26 . . Father Abraham, have mercy on me,
and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in
water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.
But Abraham said: Between us and you there is a great chasm
fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will
not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.
>
> The Greek word for "great chasm" refers to a nondescript
space, viz: a gap, without really specifying width, depth, or
design. The distance across can't be too much otherwise Abraham
and the rich man would've had trouble hearing and understanding
one another's speech. Apparently translators assumed the gap was
large so they added the word "great". It seems far more likely
to me that the chasm Abraham spoke of is a sort of crevasse just
wide enough to prevent pedestrian traffic and deep enough to
discourage attempts.
>
> Anyway, point being: I'm heaven-bound; but I'm not so sure
about many of my friends, relatives, and associates. If they
fail to make the cut, I'm crossing my fingers that there will be
some way that I can contact them in the afterlife after we've
all passed on. It disturbs me to think there's a possibility I
might not be allowed to see any of them ever again until the day
of our final good-byes during the event planned for Rev
20:11-15.
>
> POP CLOCK UPDATE: 115 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 7,005,340 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
> _
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]
Ole Timer....,you said:" until the day of our final good-byes
during the event planned for Rev 20:11-15"
Do you plan on being in that last group to be judged by Jesus.
Just for the record, I am not going to be there as I follow the
WORD of GOD. According to the WORD of GOD, the Church (Bride of
Christ) is long in Heaven in translated Bodies, already judged
for their works after having been saved in the BEMA SEAT
Judgement.
LIKE the ROC, are you saying we can converse with the dead??????
The dead in Jesus (His Bride) are in Heaven in a special place
awaiting the Harpozo (Rapture) to take place where they will be
reunited with their bodies that are still on earth in graves. Do
you not believe in that???
Rev 20:11-15 is for those unbelievers and those that are to be
judged on their works.
According to you, just what do we all need to do to get to
heaven???????? Be specific now so we know where your position
is.
Thank You Sir:
Blade[/shadow]
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