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#Post#: 9348--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: guest8 Date: December 26, 2019, 7:18 pm
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=131.msg9347#msg9347
date=1577371645]
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If we allow that Peter is the rock upon which the Roman Catholic
Church is built, and also allow that within the Roman Catholic
Church's hierarchy the apostle Peter is supreme in matters
related to faith and practice; then we must also allow that
Catholics will be thoroughly judged for their every failure to
know, and to comply, with everything that Peter taught in his
two epistles.
Failure to comply with Peter's instructions is all the same as
failure to comply with Christ's. It's a domino effect all the
way to the top.
● Luke 10:16 . .Whoever listens to you; listens to me.
Whoever rejects you; rejects me. And whoever rejects me; rejects
the one who sent me.
It matters little whether or not the apostle Peter is actually
the rock that Jesus spoke of at Matt 16:18. That debate is a red
herring and a waste of perfectly good forum bytes.
What matters most to Catholics is whether they themselves
sincerely believe Peter is that rock because then they are
obligated to submit to his authority and comply with everything
that Peter taught in his two epistles.
It's a terrible tragedy indeed for Catholics who all their lives
defended Peter's supremacy only to end up in hell because they
didn't listen to him.
● Matt 16:19 . . I will give you the keys of the kingdom
of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven,
and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 458 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 27,899,528 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
NOTE: The cyclic firing rate of an M249 light machine gun--
a.k.a. squad automatic weapon (SAW) --is roughly 750 rounds per
minute. At that rate, it would take the M249 almost 26 days
nonstop 24/7 to consume 27,899,528 rounds of ammunition.
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your first sentence in the first paragraph really is stretching
things a bit....
The "ROCK" Jesus spoke of was Himself.....WHy would He build HIS
Spiritual Church on a "stone" (meaning of Peter). OF course,
the Hiearchy of the RCC does not have a problem with this.
Blade
#Post#: 9519--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: January 6, 2020, 10:15 am
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● Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the
leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to
doing evil.
Back in the mid 1960s-- when I was a young single guy around 24
years old living solo in a tiny rented room in a family home's
daylight basement --I had lots of time to myself to think about
things since I had no friends, nor any kind of social contact
whatsoever other than at work. I wasn't distracted with a girl
friend, nor by pals and beer buddies, nor by an obsessive hobby.
It was just me, my 1961 Volkswagen, and a 305 Honda motorcycle
that I rode all over northwest Oregon.
I thought about Hell a lot back in those days; and the very real
possibility of my ending up there. It occurred to me at the time
that it would be a whole lots easier to comply with God's wishes
if only I were like Him instead of like me. Doing bad is easy
for me because I'm bad without thinking about it whereas doing
good is a fight against nature. If only I could do good as
naturally as God does good; I'd have it made.
Another thought crossed my mind back in those days. Let's assume
that I could somehow manage to be pious enough in this lifetime
to qualify for Heaven. Then what? I was pretty sure I could
never manage to be pious for all eternity: possibly in this
life, but certainly never in the next; no, I could never keep it
up forever. Sooner or later my true colors would show
themselves.
I envied people like Moses because he had Heaven in the bag
while I had no clue about my future; though I was fairly sure
that for me, Hell was pretty much a foregone conclusion.
I didn't know it at the time, but I was very fortunate to be
thinking those kinds of thoughts because right around then I ran
across a solution to my problem in the Old Testament that says:
"I will take you from among the nations and gather you from all
the countries, and I will bring you to your land. And I will
sprinkle clean water upon you, and you will be clean; from all
your impurities and from all your abominations will I cleanse
you.
. . . And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit will I
put within you, and I will take away the heart of stone out of
your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. And I will put
My spirit within you and bring it about that you will walk in My
statutes and you will keep My ordinances and do them." (Ezek
36:24-27)
Those promises were made to the Jews so of course I, being a
Gentile, couldn't expect God to let me in on them. But just
think of the tremendous advantages that passage speaks of.
Whereas I am normally and naturally impious, with those promises
in hand I could become just the opposite, viz: I could become
normally and naturally pious. Ezek 36:24-27 really perked me up
and lifted my spirits because it gave me a light at the end of
the tunnel whereas before then, I had none.
Eph 2:11-22 tells how that God has a way for Gentiles to share
in the Jews' benefits. The light at the end of the tunnel spoken
of above is available to everyone on Earth regardless of age,
race, color, or gender; which the apostle Peter sums up by
saying:
● 2Pet 1:2-4 . . Grace and peace be yours in abundance
through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord. His divine
power has given us everything we need for life and piety through
our knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and
goodness. Through these He has given us His very great and
precious promises, so that through them you may participate in
the divine nature.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 469 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 28,569,604 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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#Post#: 9760--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: January 18, 2020, 7:28 am
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● Eccl 12:7 . .Then shall the dust return to the earth as
it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
The second half of that passage is what interests me the most
because Adam's body was made of the dust of the earth, but his
soul wasn't made like that. According to Gen 2;7, the breath of
life made Adam's soul.
So; I think it's fairly safe to assume that where Ecc 12:7 says
that the spirit shall return to God, it's talking about God
laying claim to a dead person's soul; and that is a very, very
unnerving proposition.
"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living
God." (Heb 10:31)
According to Matt 10:28, assassins can take the life of a man's
body, but they are powerless to take the life of a man's soul;
which means that a man's death doesn't terminate his existence;
there's still God to reckon with.
● Matt 10:28 . . Do not be afraid of those who kill the
body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the one who
can destroy both soul and body in hell.
The Greek word for "hell" in that verse isn't hades, it's geena
(gheh' en-nah) i.e. the sum of all fears. So then, the rich man
incarcerated in hades as per Luke 16:19-31 still has his soul
and won't lose it till he's transferred to geena during the
great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 where people
will undergo a gruesome termination akin to a foundry worker
falling into a kettle of molten iron.
● Matt 16:26 . .What good will it be for a man if he gains
the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give
in exchange for his soul?
There are far too many people on internet forums casually
discussing the sum of all fears as if they're in a Jane Austen
book club discussing a chapter of Pride And Prejudice. Well; let
me say to those grasshoppers: the hades described in Luke
16:19-31 is bad enough, but the geena of Isa 66:23-24, Matt
10:28, and Mark 9:43-48 is much worse because it's in there
where people lose their human souls and quite possibly given a
demonic soul in exchange.
I'm not claiming the part I said about a demonic soul is true;
I'm only suggesting it's a distinct possibility because the lake
of fire wasn't initially constructed for humans, rather it was
initially constructed for the Devil and his angels. (Matt 25:41)
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 481 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 29,300,596 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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#Post#: 9841--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: January 23, 2020, 8:40 am
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FAQ: Seeing as how Satan is harvesting more souls than Christ,
then he'll get the last laugh won't he? Like "LOL, I got more
than You!"
A: Satan is a narcissistic alpha male. His personality feels
very strongly that it's not good enough to win; everyone else
must lose, viz: people like him will not settle for a market
share, no, they will settle for nothing less than the whole
market. In their thinking, anything less than 100% market share
makes them feel inadequate and less than a success. Were you to
ask them what number would satisfy them; they'd likely answer:
More.
In Satan's mind "more than you" isn't enough to cheer him up for
an LOL. Anything less than all is nothing to brag about because
in his mind, there are no second place winners. Ergo, any souls
taken by Christ, no matter how few in number, are painful for
Satan because that massive ego of his can't, and won't, tolerate
the reduction of even one soul in his inventory. In a mind like
Satan's, Christ is a thief taking things for himself that
rightfully don't belong to him.
According to Rev 12:12, the Devil's final hours characterize him
in a very disagreeable mood.
BTW: There was a time when Satan had the entire human race in
his bag. Little by little, goody-two-shoes Jesus has been
whittling that number down; and the losses must really gall ol'
Smutty Face.
You know; it's not easy to be a devil. The poor creature is
stuck with a personality that allows him very little peace of
mind, if any.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 486 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 29,300,596 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: guest8 Date: January 23, 2020, 4:34 pm
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=131.msg9841#msg9841
date=1579790422]
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FAQ: Seeing as how Satan is harvesting more souls than Christ,
then he'll get the last laugh won't he? Like "LOL, I got more
than You!"
A: Satan is a narcissistic alpha male. His personality feels
very strongly that it's not good enough to win; everyone else
must lose, viz: people like him will not settle for a market
share, no, they will settle for nothing less than the whole
market. In their thinking, anything less than 100% market share
makes them feel inadequate and less than a success. Were you to
ask them what number would satisfy them; they'd likely answer:
More.
In Satan's mind "more than you" isn't enough to cheer him up for
an LOL. Anything less than all is nothing to brag about because
in his mind, there are no second place winners. Ergo, any souls
taken by Christ, no matter how few in number, are painful for
Satan because that massive ego of his can't, and won't, tolerate
the reduction of even one soul in his inventory. In a mind like
Satan's, Christ is a thief taking things for himself that
rightfully don't belong to him.
According to Rev 12:12, the Devil's final hours characterize him
in a very disagreeable mood.
BTW: There was a time when Satan had the entire human race in
his bag. Little by little, goody-two-shoes Jesus has been
whittling that number down; and the losses must really gall ol'
Smutty Face.
You know; it's not easy to be a devil. The poor creature is
stuck with a personality that allows him very little peace of
mind, if any.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 486 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 29,300,596 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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I think your Satan will be please to know that he will over one
half of the world's pop. and he will not be the first in the
lake of fire and brimstone. The anti-christ and false prophet
will be the first.
What has your time clock got to say about that.
Blade
#Post#: 10624--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: February 25, 2020, 8:12 am
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● Gen 3:19 . . By the sweat of your brow shall you get
bread to eat, until you return to the ground-- for from it you
were taken. For dust you are, and to dust you shall return.
Did God have to smite Adam in order for him to stop living? No;
it was only necessary to deny Adam access to the tree of life
and let nature and hard work take their toll. In other words:
since he was no longer immortal due to tasting the forbidden
fruit, it would be only a matter of time before Adam simply gave
out and passed away from wear and tear and old age.
But what happened to Adam when his body returned to dust? Did he
return to dust too? No; and that's because Adam wasn't entirely
organic. His body came from the soil; but according to Gen 2:7,
his consciousness came from God. The afterlife disposition of
human consciousness is one of life's greatest mysteries. Heck,
even the origin of human consciousness is mystery enough for
some, let alone where it goes when people pass away.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 519 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 31,615,404 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: March 4, 2020, 8:29 am
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Were I asked my opinion what might be an attitude that is just
about guaranteed to put people on the road to hell, my answer
would have to be indifference.
● Heb 5:8-11 . .Though he were a Son, yet learned he
obedience by the things which he suffered; and being made
perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them
that obey him-- called of God an high priest after the order of
Melchizedek; of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be
uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
"dull of hearing" refers to a lack of interest, viz:
indifference; for example:
● Zech 7:11-12 . . But they refused to hearken, and pulled
away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not
hear. Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they
should hear the law, and the words which The Lord of hosts hath
sent in His spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a
great wrath from The Lord of hosts.
Again:
● Matt 13:13-15 . .Though seeing, they do not see; though
hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled
the prophecy of Isaiah, which says: "You will be ever hearing
but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never
perceiving.
. . . For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly
hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise
they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand
with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them."
And again:
● John 3:19-21 . .This is the verdict: Light has come into
the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their
deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and
will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be
exposed.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 527 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 32,102,732 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: March 10, 2020, 10:07 am
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● Gen 6:3 . . And the Lord said: My Spirit shall not
strive with man forever for they are only mortal flesh.
The problem with flesh is it's brevity. The human body
eventually loses its vigor, so God has a limited amount of time
to work with people before they pass on. Were humans immortal,
He would have plenty of time to turn people around; but alas,
without access to the tree of life, such is not the case; which
is why I sometimes advise certain folk to use what time they
have remaining to begin preparing themselves for the worst when
they pass on.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 533 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 32,468,228 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: March 14, 2020, 11:27 am
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"It is the irrevocable character of their choice, and not a
defect in the infinite divine mercy, that makes the angels' sin
unforgivable. There is no repentance for the angels after their
fall, just as there is no repentance for men after death." (CCC
393)
That quote is taken from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Well; I don't really know just how true it is, but Jesus said
something that suggests very strongly to me that Rome is
spot-on.
● John 8:21-24 . . Once more Jesus said to them, "I am
going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your
sin. Where I go, you cannot come."
. . .This made the Jews ask, "Will he kill himself? Is that why
he says, 'Where I go, you cannot come'?"
. . . But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above.
You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that
you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the
one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 537 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 32,711,892 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: patrick jane Date: August 4, 2020, 1:40 pm
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Hey buddy
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