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#Post#: 8156--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: September 29, 2019, 9:27 am
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At least three Greek words are translated "love" in the New
Testament.
There's agape (ag-ah'-pay) which is love as a noun.
There's agapao (ag-ap-ah'-o) which is love as an expression.
And there's phileo (fil-eh'-o) which is love as an emotion.
Just about everybody practices agapao in one form or another.
It's an impersonal kind of friendliness exemplified by things
like courtesy, sympathy, kindness, tolerance, charity,
generosity, and civility.
It's not required to like the people to whom we extend agapao.
Even holding doors open for total strangers counts as agapao
because it's more an act of the will than of the heart; for
example John 3:16.
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten son,
that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal
life.
The love that God feels for His friends is different than John
3:16. It's phileo; for example John 16:27
"The Father Himself loves you, because you have loved me, and
have believed that I came forth from the Father."
Phileo is a personal love; it's tender, sentimental, and close
to home; consisting of things like bonding, fondness and
affection. God doesn't feel phileo for just anybody; only for
people close to his heart.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 370 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 22,538,920 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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#Post#: 8578--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: November 2, 2019, 9:40 am
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FAQ: Rev 20:14 says that death was thrown into the lake of fire.
How is that possible seeing as how death is not a physical
object?
A: The name of the rider on the pallid horse in Rev 6:8 is
Death. He and hades are closely associated in Rev 6:8 just as
they are in Rev 20:14, strongly suggesting that the rider on the
pallid horse represents some sort of supernatural grim reaper in
charge of gathering up and organizing the dead for their journey
across the river Styx; so to speak.
Seeing as how Death is destined for the lake of brimstone, then
I think it's safe to assume that the rider on the pallid horse
is an actual being who has little to do with folk while they're
alive, but the moment they pass away, his organization is right
there to take them.
One of the most disturbing scenes I've yet to observe in a
Hollywood movie occurs in "[I]GHOST[/I]" starring Patrick Swayze
and Demi Moore. When someone marked for hell passes away, these
eerie phantoms emerge, uttering awful moans, and drag their
panic-stricken prey down into the ground. I don't know if any of
that is true or not; but it's about as accurate a description of
the activities of that sinister being on the pallid horse as I
can imagine for now.
But can you picture in your mind's eye just how shocking and
terrifying it would be to die and of a sudden be able to see the
spirit creatures all around us stalking people day and night
24/7 without our knowing, patiently waiting the moment when they
can haul us off?
According to Luke 16:22, angels provided Lazarus' transportation
to Abraham's location. The Bible doesn't say who, or what,
provided the rich man's transportation, but I have a sneaking
suspicion that the rider on the pallid horse had something to do
with it.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 404 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 24,610,064 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.,
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#Post#: 8934--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: November 24, 2019, 11:30 am
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Speaking strictly for myself, I have yet to come to terms with
the thought of incarcerating the lost in an eternal, burning,
suffering, dehydrating hell with no intermission day or night
24/7/365. I would much prefer that they simply be quarantined
and cared for, sort of like a leper colony.
If God doesn't want them in heaven, okay, because there are
quite a few people in this world that I don't want anywhere near
me in the next life. But I would like it better if He would just
exile the lost instead of making them a sideshow exhibit.
● Isa 66:23-24 . . From one New Moon to another and from
one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down
before me: says The Lord. And they will go out and look upon the
dead bodies of those who rebelled against Me; their worm will
not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be
loathsome to all mankind.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 426 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 25,950,216 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
NOTE: A standard D cell battery weighs roughly 4.726711 ounces.
Multiplying that figure by 25,950,216 comes out to roughly
7,666,198 pounds and/or 3,833 tons.
A fully fueled Space Shuttle at launch, T minus 10, weighed
2,235 tons; which is about 1,598 tons less than all those D cell
batteries. Those surplus tons represent something like
10,818,516 batteries.
From the tip of the positive pole to the base of a D cell
battery is approximately 2⅜ inches. Were those surplus
batteries laid end to end in a daisy chain, they'd stretch to
2,141,165 feet and/or 405± miles, which is roughly 210 miles
further out in space than an average Shuttle orbit.
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#Post#: 8937--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: guest8 Date: November 24, 2019, 7:05 pm
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=131.msg8934#msg8934
date=1574616601]
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Speaking strictly for myself, I have yet to come to terms with
the thought of incarcerating the lost in an eternal, burning,
suffering, dehydrating hell with no intermission day or night
24/7/365. I would much prefer that they simply be quarantined
and cared for, sort of like a leper colony.
If God doesn't want them in heaven, okay, because there are
quite a few people in this world that I don't want anywhere near
me in the next life. But I would like it better if He would just
exile the lost instead of making them a sideshow exhibit.
● Isa 66:23-24 . . From one New Moon to another and from
one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down
before me: says The Lord. And they will go out and look upon the
dead bodies of those who rebelled against Me; their worm will
not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be
loathsome to all mankind.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 426 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 25,950,216 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
NOTE: A standard D cell battery weighs roughly 4.726711 ounces.
Multiplying that figure by 25,950,216 comes out to roughly
7,666,198 pounds and/or 3,833 tons.
A fully fueled Space Shuttle at launch, T minus 10, weighed
2,235 tons; which is about 1,598 tons less than all those D cell
batteries. Those surplus tons represent something like
10,818,516 batteries.
From the tip of the positive pole to the base of a D cell
battery is approximately 2⅜ inches. Were those surplus
batteries laid end to end in a daisy chain, they'd stretch to
2,141,165 feet and/or 405± miles, which is roughly 210 miles
further out in space than an average Shuttle orbit.
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[/quote]
you said:"If God doesn't want them in heaven, okay, because
there are quite a few people in this world that I don't want
anywhere near me in the next life."
Yet, God is not the one at fault here.....Man is...as each has
the ability to reach out to GOD for salvation. Yet, there are
many that will not reach out thus saying to GOD, I do not want
to be with you.....
Blade
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: November 28, 2019, 8:18 am
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Jonah took ship from Joppa to travel to the city of Tarshish
(Jonah 1:3). That city's exact location is contested; but I
think most folk would agree that it lay somewhere in the
direction of Spain. Anyway we can at least be pretty sure that
Jonah's rendezvous with the big fish took place in the
Mediterranean Sea.
Jonah's preaching was very successful in Nineveh; and Jesus
specifically credited the prophet's success to his experience
with the fish. (Matt 12:39-41)
Well the thing is; Nineveh's ruins are eleven miles north of
Mosul Iraq, which itself is roughly 406 miles inland from the
Mediterranean Sea as the crow flies. So my question is: How were
the Ninevites aware that Jonah was a man back from dead if the
city didn't actually observed him come ashore from the fish's
mouth?
Somehow, in some way, the people of Nineveh were aware that
Jonah survived drowning and digestion in a fish's tummy; a
survival that could only be explained by an honest-to-gosh
miracle. So when Jonah went round about the city threatening it
with destruction; nobody mocked, nobody jested, and nobody poked
fun-- instead, everybody got really scared; including their
king, and as everybody familiar with the book of Nahum knows,
the citizens of Nineveh were a really brutal people not easily
intimidated.
This all tells me that Jonah's experience with the fish wasn't a
contingency. It was in the plan all along, though the prophet
likely didn't know it, because God needed something very
persuasive to get those people's attention.
Well; Jonah's recovery worked for Nineveh, but some people are
as dense as the wall of China.
● Luke 16:27-31 . .The rich man said: I beg you, Father,
that you send Lazarus to my father's house-- for I have five
brothers --that he may warn them, lest they also come to this
place of torment.
. . . But Abraham said: They have Moses and the Prophets; let
them hear them. But he said: No, Father Abraham, but if someone
goes to them from the dead, they will repent! But Abraham said
to him: If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, neither
will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 430 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 26,193,880 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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#Post#: 9023--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: guest8 Date: December 1, 2019, 2:35 pm
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date=1574950707]
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Jonah took ship from Joppa to travel to the city of Tarshish
(Jonah 1:3). That city's exact location is contested; but I
think most folk would agree that it lay somewhere in the
direction of Spain. Anyway we can at least be pretty sure that
Jonah's rendezvous with the big fish took place in the
Mediterranean Sea.
Jonah's preaching was very successful in Nineveh; and Jesus
specifically credited the prophet's success to his experience
with the fish. (Matt 12:39-41)
Well the thing is; Nineveh's ruins are eleven miles north of
Mosul Iraq, which itself is roughly 406 miles inland from the
Mediterranean Sea as the crow flies. So my question is: How were
the Ninevites aware that Jonah was a man back from dead if the
city didn't actually observed him come ashore from the fish's
mouth?
Somehow, in some way, the people of Nineveh were aware that
Jonah survived drowning and digestion in a fish's tummy; a
survival that could only be explained by an honest-to-gosh
miracle. So when Jonah went round about the city threatening it
with destruction; nobody mocked, nobody jested, and nobody poked
fun-- instead, everybody got really scared; including their
king, and as everybody familiar with the book of Nahum knows,
the citizens of Nineveh were a really brutal people not easily
intimidated.
This all tells me that Jonah's experience with the fish wasn't a
contingency. It was in the plan all along, though the prophet
likely didn't know it, because God needed something very
persuasive to get those people's attention.
Well; Jonah's recovery worked for Nineveh, but some people are
as dense as the wall of China.
● Luke 16:27-31 . .The rich man said: I beg you, Father,
that you send Lazarus to my father's house-- for I have five
brothers --that he may warn them, lest they also come to this
place of torment.
. . . But Abraham said: They have Moses and the Prophets; let
them hear them. But he said: No, Father Abraham, but if someone
goes to them from the dead, they will repent! But Abraham said
to him: If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, neither
will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 430 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 26,193,880 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Ninevah is located near the Tigris River.
Blade
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: December 3, 2019, 8:21 am
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It could be argued that the passage below proves that Abel's
offering was slain.
● Heb 12:22-24 . .You have come to Mount Zion, to the
heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to
thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the
church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You
have come to God, the judge of all men, to the spirits of
righteous men made perfect, to Jesus the mediator of a new
covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word
than the blood of Abel.
It could also be argued that the passage above speaks of the
man's blood rather than that of his offering's.
● Gen 4:9-11 . . The Lord said: What have you done? The
voice of your brother's blood is crying to Me from the ground.
The contrast is very interesting. Abel's blood served to condemn
a murderer; whereas Christ's blood serves to get murderers
acquitted; even serial killers and hired guns.
On the night of baby Jesus' birth, a celestial being made this
announcement:
● Luke 2:10-12 . .The angel said to shepherds: Do not be
afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which
shall be for all the people; for today in the city of David
there has been born for you a savior, who is Christ the Lord.
The Greek word for "savior" means the same thing as a rescuer,
e.g. lifeguards, firemen, cops, emergency medical teams, Coast
Guard units, snow patrols, and mountain rescue teams. Rescuers
typically save people who are facing imminent death and/or grave
danger and utterly helpless to do anything about it.
Well; in my book; news of someone who can rescue murderers from
the wrath of God, easily qualifies as "good news of great joy".
Nothing compares to it.
_
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 435 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 26,498,460 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: December 12, 2019, 7:58 pm
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● Matt 5:21-22a . . You have heard that it was said to the
people long ago: Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be
subject to judgment. But I tell you that anyone who is angry
with his brother will be subject to judgment.
I think it's safe to assume that the anger spoken of in that
passage is a malicious kind of anger eating away at somebody who
wants you dead. (cf. 1John 3:15)
● Matt 5:22b . . . Again, anyone who says to his brother
"Raca" is answerable to the Sanhedrin.
Raca refers to name-calling, especially in regard to
intelligence, e.g. idiot, moron, dummy, lame brain, space cadet,
Neanderthal, air head, dimwit, bird brain, knuckle dragger,
doofus, jackass, ignoramus, etc.
● Matt 5:22c . . But anyone who says "You fool" will be in
danger of the fire of hell.
"You fool" in this case refers to a particular kind of mental
cruelty that devalues someone's worth as a person, and makes
people-- especially growing children --feel bad about
themselves, i.e. makes people feel like they don't count and/or
don't matter, like they are something less than a real human
being.
Demeaning comments in the "you fool" category destroy someone's
self respect to where they feel like they don't belong: they're
unnecessary, unwelcome, and unworthy of being included or of
being listened to and/or taken seriously.
There's a certain amount of poetic justice in Matt 5:22c. People
that make others' lives a living hell in this life via you-fool
remarks, fully deserve their own lives to be a living hell in
the next.
● Matt 12:36-37 . . I tell you that men will have to give
account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have
spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your
words you will be condemned.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 444 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 27,046,704 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: guest8 Date: December 13, 2019, 7:12 am
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date=1576202314]
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● Matt 5:21-22a . . You have heard that it was said to the
people long ago: Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be
subject to judgment. But I tell you that anyone who is angry
with his brother will be subject to judgment.
I think it's safe to assume that the anger spoken of in that
passage is a malicious kind of anger eating away at somebody who
wants you dead. (cf. 1John 3:15)
● Matt 5:22b . . . Again, anyone who says to his brother
"Raca" is answerable to the Sanhedrin.
Raca refers to name-calling, especially in regards to their
intelligence, e.g. idiot, moron, dummy, lame brain, space cadet,
Neanderthal, air head, dimwit, bird brain, knuckle dragger,
doofus, jackass, ignoramus, etc.
● Matt 5:22c . . But anyone who says "You fool" will be in
danger of the fire of hell.
"You fool" in this case refers to is a particular kind of mental
cruelty that makes people-- especially growing children --feel
bad about themselves, i.e. makes people feel like they don't
count and/or don't matter, like they are something less than a
real human being. Demeaning comments in the "you fool" category
destroy someone's self respect to where they feel like they
don't belong: they're unnecessary, unwelcome. and unworthy of
being included or of being taken seriously.
There's a certain amount of poetic justice in Matt 5:22c. People
that make others' lives a hell in this life via you-fool
remarks, fully deserve their own lives to be a hell in the next.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 444 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 27,046,704 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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"a term of reproach used among the Jews in the time of Christ"
Blade
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: December 26, 2019, 8:47 am
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If we allow that Peter is the rock upon which the Roman Catholic
Church is built, and also allow that within the Roman Catholic
Church's hierarchy the apostle Peter is supreme in matters
related to faith and practice; then we must also allow that
Catholics will be thoroughly judged for their every failure to
know, and to comply, with everything that Peter taught in his
two epistles.
Failure to comply with Peter's instructions is all the same as
failure to comply with Christ's. It's a domino effect all the
way to the top.
● Luke 10:16 . .Whoever listens to you; listens to me.
Whoever rejects you; rejects me. And whoever rejects me; rejects
the one who sent me.
It matters little whether or not the apostle Peter is actually
the rock that Jesus spoke of at Matt 16:18. That debate is a red
herring and a waste of perfectly good forum bytes.
What matters most to Catholics is whether they themselves
sincerely believe Peter is that rock because then they are
obligated to submit to his authority and comply with everything
that Peter taught in his two epistles.
It's a terrible tragedy indeed for those Catholics who all their
lives defended Peter's supremacy only to end up in hell because
they didn't listen to him.
● Matt 16:19 . . I will give you the keys of the kingdom
of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven,
and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 458 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 27,899,528 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
NOTE: The cyclic firing rate of an M249 light machine gun--
a.k.a. squad automatic weapon (SAW) --is roughly 750 rounds per
minute. At that rate, it would take the M249 almost 26 days
nonstop 24/7 to consume 27,899,528 rounds of ammunition.
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