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#Post#: 7188--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: July 23, 2019, 9:11 am
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"A voice rings out; Proclaim! Another asks; What shall I
proclaim? All flesh is grass, all its goodness like flowers of
the field: Grass withers, flowers fade when the breath of the
Lord blows on them. Indeed, man is but grass: Grass withers,
flowers fade" (Isa 40:6-8)
Man is but perishable fruit like peaches, pears, strawberries,
cantaloupe, avocado, and oranges; no amount of refrigeration
will keep him fresh. Regardless of the amount of rest, fresh
air, good diet, and exercise; man begins to wither right around
the age of 32 or 34.
Youngster's can't really appreciate their expiration date as
three brief decades: to them, 32 or 34 years seems long and way
out in the distance. As a result, the withering process often
sneaks up and takes them by surprise like starting a frog off in
cool water and slowly bringing it up to a boil. Of a sudden, one
day it swats them in the face like a rolled up newspaper that
they're "old school" replaced by a young, hip generation wherein
they've been accustomed to thinking all along was themselves.
The aging process, once it starts, is relentless. Its
personality is sort of like that of the robot in Arnold
Schwarzenegger's movie "The Terminator" which is a machine that
can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with, it doesn't
feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop--
ever! -- until you are dead.
The aging process is a cold as steel wake-up call that your
tenure on this planet is rapidly winding down to a close; and
one day, it will be like you were never here.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 302 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 18,369,632 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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#Post#: 7371--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: July 31, 2019, 6:52 pm
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Matt 28:18 . . Jesus came to them and said: All authority in
heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Acts 1:9 . . He was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud
hid him from their sight.
Dan 7:13-14 . . In my vision at night I looked, and there before
me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven.
He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into His presence.
He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples,
nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is
an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom
is one that will never be destroyed.
Rev 5:11-12 . . I looked and heard the voice of many angels,
numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten
thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and
the elders. In a loud voice they sang: Worthy is the Lamb, who
was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and praise!
Acts 1:10-11 . .They were looking intently up into the sky as he
was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside
them. Men of Galilee-- they said --why do you stand here looking
into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into
heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into
heaven.
Rev 1:7 . . Look! he is coming with the clouds, and every eye
will see him
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 310 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 18,883,960 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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#Post#: 7419--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: guest8 Date: August 4, 2019, 7:44 pm
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=131.msg7371#msg7371
date=1564617129]
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Matt 28:18 . . Jesus came to them and said: All authority in
heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Acts 1:9 . . He was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud
hid him from their sight.
Dan 7:13-14 . . In my vision at night I looked, and there before
me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven.
He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into His presence.
He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples,
nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is
an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom
is one that will never be destroyed.
Rev 5:11-12 . . I looked and heard the voice of many angels,
numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten
thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and
the elders. In a loud voice they sang: Worthy is the Lamb, who
was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and praise!
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 310 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 18,883,960 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]still counting I see
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 7579--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: August 20, 2019, 9:39 am
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Years ago when I underwent recruit training in the US Army, we
were processed in alphabetical order; consequently I was at the
back of the line for just about everything except chow because
my last name begins with W --very few guys' names began with X,
Y, or Z.
If perchance the great white throne event depicted at Rev
20:11-15 is scheduled to be done in alphabetical order, it would
quite possibly be centuries before my turn came to face the
music were I among those in line to be called forward.
Let's say, for example, that the pop clock update below
represents one hour in court per person. No doubt that's an
extremely conservative amount of time allotted to evaluate every
little detail in peoples' lives but we're just being
hypothetical here so it doesn't matter.
Well; 20,102,280 hours equals 837,595 days of twenty-fours hours
each; which adds up to 2,295 years if the great white throne
event is scheduled to run non-stop, day and night, 24/7
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 330 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 20,102,280 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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#Post#: 7610--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: guest8 Date: August 22, 2019, 9:35 pm
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=131.msg7579#msg7579
date=1566311953]
.[font=arial]
Years ago when I underwent recruit training in the US Army, we
were processed in alphabetical order; consequently I was at the
back of the line for just about everything except chow because
my last name begins with W --very few guys' names began with X,
Y, or Z.
If perchance the great white throne event depicted at Rev
20:11-15 is scheduled to be done in alphabetical order, it would
quite possibly be centuries before my turn came to face the
music were I among those in line to be called forward.
Let's say, for example, that the pop clock update below
represents one hour in court per person. No doubt that's an
extremely conservative amount of time allotted to evaluate every
little detail in peoples' lives but we're just being
hypothetical here so it doesn't matter.
Well; 20,102,280 hours equals 837,595 days of twenty-fours hours
each; which adds up to 2,295 years if the great white throne
event is scheduled to run non-stop, day and night, 24/7
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 330 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 20,102,280 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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[/quote]
don't want to be a part of that White Throne Judgement...Bad
vibes
Blade
#Post#: 7881--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: September 10, 2019, 10:28 am
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Something I've been curious about for some time now is why the
rich man in Luke's narrative arrived in a place of flame and
torment while the poor man was taken to a place of comfort.
Well; one thing I strongly suspect is that at the time of the
incident recorded in Luke 16:19-31, Christ was not yet born in
the land of Israel; so then, there was not yet a gospel to
believe in the New Testament.
Abraham mentions the Old Testament's law and its prophets; which
apparently the rich man had not studied, nor taken seriously;
consequently he was impious and a complete failure at complying
with the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as per
Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Well, if so; then
that was a fatal error.
● Deut 27:26 . . Cursed is the man who does not uphold the
words of this law by carrying them out.
The grammatical tense of that curse is present tense rather than
future, indicating that the curse is instant, i.e. no delay and
no waiting period; ergo: scofflaws are walking dead men; and if
they cross over into the next life as dead men, then their fate
will be just as solidly sealed as the rich man's fate.
● Luke 16:27-31 . . I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my
father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so
that they will not also come to this place of torment.
. . . Abraham replied: They have Moses and the Prophets; let
them listen to them. The man replied: No, father Abraham; but if
someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent. Abraham
said to him: If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets,
they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.
Abraham was a prophet (Gen 20:7) which means he was an inspired
man. As such, he would be privy to information that's normally
unavailable to the average rank and file pew warmer. However
prophets aren't meant to keep what they hear from God to
themselves; they're messengers, e.g. Abraham was a
teacher/mentor. (Gen 18:19)
So then, I think it's fairly safe to assume the information that
Abraham passed on to the rich man came to Abraham via
inspiration; which, if so, means that our reaction to his
remarks should be very different than the rich man's. He brushed
aside what Abraham told him; but we, I should hope, are wiser
than that impious dunce because we know that a prophet's
teachings are the voice of God.
I think it's pretty safe to assert that if people won't listen
to Abraham, then neither will they listen to Christ.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 351 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 21,381,516 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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#Post#: 7910--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: guest8 Date: September 12, 2019, 9:49 pm
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=131.msg7881#msg7881
date=1568129317]
.[font=arial]
Something I've been curious about for some time now is why the
rich man in Luke's narrative arrived in a place of flame and
torment while the poor man was taken to a place of comfort.
Well; one thing I strongly suspect is that at the time of the
incident recorded in Luke 16:19-31, Christ was not yet born in
the land of Israel; so then, there was not yet a gospel to
believe in the New Testament.
Abraham mentions the Old Testament's law and its prophets; which
apparently the rich man had not studied, nor taken seriously;
consequently he was impious and a complete failure at complying
with the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as per
Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Well, if so; then
that was a fatal error.
● Deut 27:26 . . Cursed is the man who does not uphold the
words of this law by carrying them out.
The grammatical tense of that curse is present tense rather than
future, indicating that the curse is instant, i.e. no delay and
no waiting period; ergo: scofflaws are walking dead men; and if
they cross over into the next life as dead men, then their fate
will be just as solidly sealed as the rich man's fate.
● Luke 16:27-31 . . I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my
father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so
that they will not also come to this place of torment.
. . . Abraham replied: They have Moses and the Prophets; let
them listen to them. The man replied: No, father Abraham; but if
someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent. Abraham
said to him: If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets,
they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.
Abraham was a prophet (Gen 20:7) which means he was an inspired
man. As such, he would be privy to information that's normally
unavailable to the average rank and file pew warmer. However
prophets aren't meant to keep what they hear from God to
themselves; they're messengers, e.g. Abraham was a
teacher/mentor. (Gen 18:19)
So then, I think it's fairly safe to assume the information that
Abraham passed on to the rich man came to Abraham via
inspiration; which, if so, means that our reaction to his
remarks should be very different than the rich man's. He brushed
aside what Abraham told him; but we, I should hope, are wiser
than that impious dunce because we know that a prophet's
teachings are the voice of God.
I think it's pretty safe to assert that if people won't listen
to Abraham, then neither will they listen to Christ.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 351 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 21,381,516 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
_[/font]
[/quote]
I see your still counting lost souls
Blade
#Post#: 7923--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: September 13, 2019, 10:05 am
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Internet forums are a cruel venue. Participants write their
academic comments about hell as if we're all members of a Jane
Austen book club casually discussing a chapter of Pride And
Prejudice.
But the numbers that I post on this thread from time to time are
not fiction; they represent real people whose lives have
culminated in unspeakable tragedy. I'd much prefer eternity in a
looney bin, soling my pants and drooling all over myself like a
stroke victim, than be where those unfortunates are in residence
now.
● Luke 16:27-28 . .The rich man answered: "I beg you,
father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five
brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to
this place of torment."
The rich man knew something about hell that apparently many of
us online seem unable to fully appreciate. The time to be
thinking about the hereafter is while we're in this life, now,
before it ends, rather than the next when it will be too late to
do anything about it.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 354 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 21,564,264 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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#Post#: 7997--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: guest8 Date: September 18, 2019, 9:06 pm
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[quote author=Olde Tymer link=topic=131.msg1271#msg1271
date=1538328977]
[font=arial].
● Jonah 1:17 . . Jonah was in the belly of a fish for
three days and three nights
[B]Q:[/B] Was Jonah alive in the fish?
[B]A:[/B] Yes. (Jonah 2:1)
[B]Q:[/B] The whole time?
[B]A:[/B] No.
At some point in his nautical adventure Jonah went to a place
called sheol (Jonah 2:2) which he sited at the bottoms of the
mountains. (Jonah 2:6)
Well; the bottoms of the mountains aren't located in the tummies
of fish, no; they're located down deep in the earth. So, the
only way that Jonah could possibly be at the bottoms of the
mountains while in the belly of a fish at the same time was for
the man and his body to part company and go their separate ways.
Just before being cast ashore, Jonah prayed thus:
● Jonah 2:6 . .To the bottoms of the mountains I went
down. As for the earth, its bars were upon me for time
indefinite. But out of the pit you proceeded to bring up my
life, O Jehovah my God.
The Hebrew word for "pit" in that verse is the very same word
for pit in Ps 16:8-10; which Acts 2:25-31 verifies is speaking
of putrefaction. In other words: Jonah 2:6 tells of Jonah's
resurrection. (There's reason to believe that Jonah was already
dead from drowning in the sea's depths before the fish showed up
to swallow him.)
Christ underwent the very same afterlife experience as Jonah's.
The only real difference between the two was that Christ's grave
was in a rock while Jonah's grave was in a fish.
The key points in their experiences are that both were dead,
both went to the bottoms of the mountains while their corpse
reposed in a grave, and both were resurrected within three days
and three nights. (Matt 12:40)
[B]Q:[/B] What does the story of Jonah have to do with hell?
[B]A:[/B] It's widely believed that when people die they cease
to exist. Well; were that belief a fact; then Jesus would've
ceased to exist when he passed away on the cross. As a result:
he would not have been resurrected back to life, instead, Jesus
would've been created back to life. Jonah's experience proves
that Jesus continued to exist out of body when he pass away; and
if he and Jonah did, then everyone else does too.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 6 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 365,496 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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[/quote]
You comments are wild to say the least.
Blade
#Post#: 8094--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hell's Population Clock
By: Olde Tymer Date: September 24, 2019, 8:07 am
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● Luke 16:27-28 . .The rich man answered: "I beg you,
father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five
brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to
this place of torment."
● Luke 16:29 . .But Abraham said: "They have Moses and the
Prophets; let them hear them"
● Luke 16:30 . . But he said: "No, Father Abraham"
The Bible says that Abraham himself was a prophet (Gen 20:7).
Had the rich man believed the book of Genesis he would've
listened to Abraham instead of arguing with him.
What can be supposed ever happened to the five brothers? Well;
they believed neither Moses nor the Prophets; so I think it's
safe to assume the worst: their fate was the same as the brother
who went before them.
POP CLOCK UPDATE: 365 days have elapsed since beginning the
thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then
something like 22,234,340 new arrivals have checked into the
fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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