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       #Post#: 12776--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: guest17 Date: May 8, 2020, 12:01 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=13.msg12775#msg12775
       date=1588955265]
       I really want a pair of ice hockey skates but they cost $124.99
       -
       [/quote]
       Ouch.
       #Post#: 12777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: guest17 Date: May 8, 2020, 12:06 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       I'm a little worried about my doctor appointment next week. Will
       they make me be tested for Covid 19 if I don't have symptoms?
       Also I heard that there is a woman who will be sitting in
       observing or something while I talk to my doctor. I don't know
       who she is and what her purpose is. Has anyone else had someone
       sitting in and observing during the appointment? I don't want
       anything forced on me. I don't think I like the idea of someone
       else in the room when I'm talking to my doctor because of doctor
       patient confidentiality.
       #Post#: 12779--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: guest24 Date: May 8, 2020, 12:33 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12777#msg12777
       date=1588957583]
       I'm a little worried about my doctor appointment next week. Will
       they make me be tested for Covid 19 if I don't have symptoms?
       Also I heard that there is a woman who will be sitting in
       observing or something while I talk to my doctor. I don't know
       who she is and what her purpose is. Has anyone else had someone
       sitting in and observing during the appointment? I don't want
       anything forced on me. I don't think I like the idea of someone
       else in the room when I'm talking to my doctor because of doctor
       patient confidentiality.
       [/quote]I've had student people sometimes but that is all and
       since I don't trust Dr. I wouldn't allow anything else.
       They wanted to test me long ago no matter if I had symptoms or
       not because of how at risk I am...I refused and there wasn't any
       pressure about it then, of course things change every day so you
       will just have to let us know if they're not forcing the test on
       people.
       #Post#: 12781--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: guest17 Date: May 8, 2020, 12:38 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=13.msg12779#msg12779
       date=1588959197]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12777#msg12777
       date=1588957583]
       I'm a little worried about my doctor appointment next week. Will
       they make me be tested for Covid 19 if I don't have symptoms?
       Also I heard that there is a woman who will be sitting in
       observing or something while I talk to my doctor. I don't know
       who she is and what her purpose is. Has anyone else had someone
       sitting in and observing during the appointment? I don't want
       anything forced on me. I don't think I like the idea of someone
       else in the room when I'm talking to my doctor because of doctor
       patient confidentiality.
       [/quote]I've had student people sometimes but that is all and
       since I don't trust Dr. I wouldn't allow anything else.
       They wanted to test me long ago no matter if I had symptoms or
       not because of how at risk I am...I refused and there wasn't any
       pressure about it then, of course things change every day so you
       will just have to let us know if they're not forcing the test on
       people.
       [/quote]
       They probably consider me high risk because of my age and
       weakened immune system from cancer. They tried to swab me
       already but I refused that. My son has the same doctor that I do
       and he said that it wasn't a student but someone with some kind
       of authority.
       #Post#: 12782--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: guest24 Date: May 8, 2020, 12:40 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12781#msg12781
       date=1588959499]
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=13.msg12779#msg12779
       date=1588959197]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12777#msg12777
       date=1588957583]
       I'm a little worried about my doctor appointment next week. Will
       they make me be tested for Covid 19 if I don't have symptoms?
       Also I heard that there is a woman who will be sitting in
       observing or something while I talk to my doctor. I don't know
       who she is and what her purpose is. Has anyone else had someone
       sitting in and observing during the appointment? I don't want
       anything forced on me. I don't think I like the idea of someone
       else in the room when I'm talking to my doctor because of doctor
       patient confidentiality.
       [/quote]I've had student people sometimes but that is all and
       since I don't trust Dr. I wouldn't allow anything else.
       They wanted to test me long ago no matter if I had symptoms or
       not because of how at risk I am...I refused and there wasn't any
       pressure about it then, of course things change every day so you
       will just have to let us know if they're not forcing the test on
       people.
       [/quote]
       They probably consider me high risk because of my age and
       weakened immune system from cancer. They tried to swab me
       already but I refused that. My son has the same doctor that I do
       and he said that it wasn't a student but someone with some kind
       of authority.
       [/quote]that is when I would say...no way, get out...or...I'm
       leaving, call and schedule another appointment when the law
       matters to you
       #Post#: 12783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: guest17 Date: May 8, 2020, 12:44 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=13.msg12782#msg12782
       date=1588959619]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12781#msg12781
       date=1588959499]
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=13.msg12779#msg12779
       date=1588959197]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12777#msg12777
       date=1588957583]
       I'm a little worried about my doctor appointment next week. Will
       they make me be tested for Covid 19 if I don't have symptoms?
       Also I heard that there is a woman who will be sitting in
       observing or something while I talk to my doctor. I don't know
       who she is and what her purpose is. Has anyone else had someone
       sitting in and observing during the appointment? I don't want
       anything forced on me. I don't think I like the idea of someone
       else in the room when I'm talking to my doctor because of doctor
       patient confidentiality.
       [/quote]I've had student people sometimes but that is all and
       since I don't trust Dr. I wouldn't allow anything else.
       They wanted to test me long ago no matter if I had symptoms or
       not because of how at risk I am...I refused and there wasn't any
       pressure about it then, of course things change every day so you
       will just have to let us know if they're not forcing the test on
       people.
       [/quote]
       They probably consider me high risk because of my age and
       weakened immune system from cancer. They tried to swab me
       already but I refused that. My son has the same doctor that I do
       and he said that it wasn't a student but someone with some kind
       of authority.
       [/quote]that is when I would say...no way, get out...or...I'm
       leaving, call and schedule another appointment when the law
       matters to you
       [/quote]
       Yes, that's what I need to do. And I will. They better not give
       me a hard time.
       #Post#: 12784--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: guest24 Date: May 8, 2020, 12:52 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12783#msg12783
       date=1588959867]
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=13.msg12782#msg12782
       date=1588959619]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12781#msg12781
       date=1588959499]
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=13.msg12779#msg12779
       date=1588959197]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12777#msg12777
       date=1588957583]
       I'm a little worried about my doctor appointment next week. Will
       they make me be tested for Covid 19 if I don't have symptoms?
       Also I heard that there is a woman who will be sitting in
       observing or something while I talk to my doctor. I don't know
       who she is and what her purpose is. Has anyone else had someone
       sitting in and observing during the appointment? I don't want
       anything forced on me. I don't think I like the idea of someone
       else in the room when I'm talking to my doctor because of doctor
       patient confidentiality.
       [/quote]I've had student people sometimes but that is all and
       since I don't trust Dr. I wouldn't allow anything else.
       They wanted to test me long ago no matter if I had symptoms or
       not because of how at risk I am...I refused and there wasn't any
       pressure about it then, of course things change every day so you
       will just have to let us know if they're not forcing the test on
       people.
       [/quote]
       They probably consider me high risk because of my age and
       weakened immune system from cancer. They tried to swab me
       already but I refused that. My son has the same doctor that I do
       and he said that it wasn't a student but someone with some kind
       of authority.
       [/quote]that is when I would say...no way, get out...or...I'm
       leaving, call and schedule another appointment when the law
       matters to you
       [/quote]
       Yes, that's what I need to do. And I will. They better not give
       me a hard time.
       [/quote]saying a prayer for you as you deal with this
       #Post#: 12796--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: guest17 Date: May 9, 2020, 1:04 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=13.msg12784#msg12784
       date=1588960357]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12783#msg12783
       date=1588959867]
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=13.msg12782#msg12782
       date=1588959619]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12781#msg12781
       date=1588959499]
       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=13.msg12779#msg12779
       date=1588959197]
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12777#msg12777
       date=1588957583]
       I'm a little worried about my doctor appointment next week. Will
       they make me be tested for Covid 19 if I don't have symptoms?
       Also I heard that there is a woman who will be sitting in
       observing or something while I talk to my doctor. I don't know
       who she is and what her purpose is. Has anyone else had someone
       sitting in and observing during the appointment? I don't want
       anything forced on me. I don't think I like the idea of someone
       else in the room when I'm talking to my doctor because of doctor
       patient confidentiality.
       [/quote]I've had student people sometimes but that is all and
       since I don't trust Dr. I wouldn't allow anything else.
       They wanted to test me long ago no matter if I had symptoms or
       not because of how at risk I am...I refused and there wasn't any
       pressure about it then, of course things change every day so you
       will just have to let us know if they're not forcing the test on
       people.
       [/quote]
       They probably consider me high risk because of my age and
       weakened immune system from cancer. They tried to swab me
       already but I refused that. My son has the same doctor that I do
       and he said that it wasn't a student but someone with some kind
       of authority.
       [/quote]that is when I would say...no way, get out...or...I'm
       leaving, call and schedule another appointment when the law
       matters to you
       [/quote]
       Yes, that's what I need to do. And I will. They better not give
       me a hard time.
       [/quote]saying a prayer for you as you deal with this
       [/quote]
       Thanks Lori and I'm praying for you and others on this forum.
       #Post#: 12807--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: Firestarter Date: May 9, 2020, 9:55 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=13.msg12777#msg12777
       date=1588957583]I'm a little worried about my doctor appointment
       next week. Will they make me be tested for Covid 19 if I don't
       have symptoms? Also I heard that there is a woman who will be
       sitting in observing or something while I talk to my doctor. I
       don't know who she is and what her purpose is. Has anyone else
       had someone sitting in and observing during the appointment? I
       don't want anything forced on me. I don't think I like the idea
       of someone else in the room when I'm talking to my doctor
       because of doctor patient confidentiality.[/quote]
       It looks like "they" are planning some kind of forced medical
       action against Truthjourney...
       In my experience you don't have to agree with somebody being
       present when you talk "confidentially" to your doctor.
       Maybe the best way to deal with this situation is to first ask
       some questions about the why and who of the other person
       present. By mail as this is fast and this gives you some sort of
       "evidence".
       You can easily give some reasons for why you want an explanation
       (you have already posted some reasons in this thread)...
       I don't "trust" any of them. I don't think that doctors are
       "evil" in general, but think that they have been brainwashed by
       big pharma and don't know the true meaning of what "health care"
       should be.
       Doctors in the past have advised me to look for another doctor
       if I didn't trust the current one (the last time I spoke to a
       doctor was in 2015, when I demanded help when the authorities
       illegally blocked by bank account and I was severely starving).
       I do advise you to be careful, and don't seem too inflexible.
       They can only force medical action on you if you flat-out
       refuse!
       Your biggest "weapon" is to ask questions. Doctors really hate
       that because it forces them to think about the Hippocratic Oath
       and that they have the obligation to never harm their
       patients...
       #Post#: 12822--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What's on your mind? Chat Thread
       By: guest17 Date: May 9, 2020, 3:31 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Firestarter link=topic=13.msg12807#msg12807
       date=1589036114]
       It looks like "they" are planning some kind of forced medical
       action against Truthjourney…[/Quote]
       I don't know for sure what's going on and I won't know until I
       go to my appointment next week. I don't think they are planning
       some kind of forced medical action. My son said she was in the
       room when he was talking to the doctor. That is unusual. It
       hasn't happened with me yet. He didn't seem to be concerned
       about it. I told him that he needs to be concerned because of
       doctor patient confidentiality. He is more trusting than I am.
       Our doctor is a good doctor. The best doctor I've ever had. But
       I know he's under pressure to follow certain guidelines in order
       to keep his practice open.
       I can't say that I'm not at least a little worried. I mean the
       way things are going, what are they going to make doctors do?
       They keep talking about tests and vaccines.
       Even if they are planning some kind of forced medical action,
       which I don't think they are, I'm not the kind of person to
       force anything on. I might be 63 years old but I can still take
       up for myself. They didn't get their swab and they're not
       getting anything else from me other than routine bloodwork which
       should tell them whatever they need to know.
       [Quote]In my experience you don't have to agree with somebody
       being present when you talk "confidentially" to your
       doctor.[/Quote]
       I won't agree to have somebody else present.
       [Quote]I don't "trust" any of them. I don't think that doctors
       are "evil" in general, but think that they have been brainwashed
       by big pharma and don't know the true meaning of what "health
       care" should be.
       Doctors in the past have advised me to look for another doctor
       if I didn't trust the current one (the last time I spoke to a
       doctor was in 2015, when I demanded help when the authorities
       illegally blocked by bank account and I was severely
       starving).[/Quote]
       I've had problems with doctors in the past and for years. They
       kept telling me that nothing was wrong with me and one internal
       medicine doctor actually told me that all I needed was to be on
       antidepressants when in fact I had breast cancer that hadn't
       been diagnosed yet. He asked me, well, aren't you depressed? I
       said, how am I supposed to feel when I feel sick all the time.
       Am I supposed to be all smiley and bubbly? So he wrote a
       prescription for antidepressants which of course didn't help at
       all. That's why I wasn't diagnosed till stage 3 when the cancer
       presented on the skin and could be seen. The doctors could no
       longer deny that something was going on with me, unless they
       were blind.
       [Quote]I do advise you to be careful, and don't seem too
       inflexible. They can only force medical action on you if you
       flat-out refuse!
       Your biggest "weapon" is to ask questions. Doctors really hate
       that because it forces them to think about the Hippocratic Oath
       and that they have the obligation to never harm their
       patients...
       [/quote]
       I will be careful. Thanks for the advice.
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