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#Post#: 28861--------------------------------------------------
Who is God?
DIR By: guest24
Date: May 6, 2021, 8:15 am
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God is eternal...Psalms 90:1-2; Psalms 93:2; Exodus 15:18; I
Timothy 1:17
God is spirit...John 4:24; Galatians 5:25
God is bigger than our minds can fathom...Job 36:26; Isaiah
40:18-26; Romans 11:33-34; Exodus
God is Sovereign...Isaiah 46:10; Psalms 135:6; I Timothy
6:15-16; Daniel 4:35
God takes pleasure in His people, their obedience, their
sacrificial Love...Hebrews 13:16; II
29:18; Philippians 4:18
God is majestic, has glory...Exodus 15:6; Exodus 15:7; Exodus
15:11; Job 37:22; Psalms 8:1 and 9;
God is everywhere...Jeremiah 23:23-24; II Chronicles 2:6; Psalms
139:7-16; Acts 17:27-28
God knows everything...I Kings 8:39; Psalms 139:1-6; Proverbs
3:19-20; I John 3:20
God is all powerful...Deuteronomy 32:39; Jeremiah 32:17; Matthew
19:26; I Samuel 2:6-7; Psalms
Corinthians 4:20; I Corinthians 2:4
God is a constant, unchanging...Hebrews 13:8; James 1:17; Psalms
102:27; Psalms 33:11; Psalms
God is creative...Nehemiah 9:5-6; Jeremiah 51:15; Colossians
1:16
God in the beginning and the end...Revelations 1:8; Exodus 3:14;
Isaiah 41:4; Isaiah 44:6; Revelations
Christ is the embodiment of God...Colossians 1:15-19; John 1:1;
John 1:18; II Corinthians 4:4
God is invisible...Exodus 33:20-23; Colossians 1:15; Romans
1:20; I Timothy 1:17; Hebrews 11:27
God is divine, full of glory...Romans 1:20; Psalms 97:6; Psalms
19:1; Psalms 8:1; Psalms 72:19;
God is immortal...I Timothy 1:17; I Timothy 6:16
God is only one...Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 45:21-22; I Timothy
2:5; I Corinthians 8:6
God has all authority...Jude 1:25; Romans 13:1-7; Daniel 2:21;
Daniel 4:17; John 19:11; Romans 13:2
God is holy...Isaiah 6:3; Revelations 4:8; Exodus 15:11; Psalms
99:3; Psalms 77:13; Isaiah 57:15;
God is wisdom...Isaiah 28:29; Jeremiah 10:12; I Corinthians
1:30; Colossians 2:2-3; Romans 11:33
God is truth...Numbers 23:19; Isaiah 45:19; John 14:6
God is faithful...Psalms 89:2-5; Romans 8:38-39; Deuteronomy
7:9; Psalms 100:5; Psalms 89:2
5:24; Exodus 34:6-7
God is Love...Psalms 33:5, 18, and 22; Exodus 15:13; Psalms
13:5-6; Ephesians 3:17-19; I John 4:8;
God is good...II Chronicles 7:3; Genesis 1:31; Psalms 119:68;
Psalms 145:9
God is merciful...II Samuel 24:14; Nehemiah 9:31; Daniel 9:9;
Luke 1:50-54
God is kind...II Samuel 22:51; Isaiah 54:8; Jeremiah 9:24; I
Timothy 1:16
God is patient...I Timothy 1:16; Romans 3:25; II Peter 3:15;
Romans 9:22
God is just...Deuteronomy 32:4; Job 37:23; Psalms 99:4; Luke
18:7-8; Jeremiah 9:24; Psalms 89:14;
God is righteous...Isaiah 51:6; Psalms 89:14; Jeremiah 23:5-6; I
Corinthians 1:30; Jeremiah 9:24;
God exercises vengeance...Nahum 9:17; Romans 12:19; Romans
32:35; Psalms 94:1; Psalms 20:22
God exercises wrath...Psalms 7:11; Deuteronomy 29:28; Isaiah
13:13; Romans 1:18; Romans 5:9; Romans 9:22
God is jealous...Exodus 34:14; Deuteronomy 4:24; Nahum 1:2;
Zechariah 8:2; II Corinthians 11:2
God is forgiving...Nehemiah 9:17; Psalms 103:12; Hebrews 9:26;
Psalms 32:5; Isaiah 38:17; Isaiah
God is compassionate...Nehemiah 9:17; Exodus 34:6-7
God is slow to anger...Nehemiah 9:17; Exodus 34:6-7
God is grace...Nehemiah 9:17; Exodus 34:6-7; II Timothy 1:9;
Titus 3:5-7
God is peace...I Corinthians 14:33; Romans 14:17; Romans 15:33;
I Thessalonians 5:23
#Post#: 28863--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is God?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: May 6, 2021, 10:38 am
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Awesome compilation Lori, thank you.
#Post#: 28865--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is God?
DIR By: guest58
Date: May 6, 2021, 11:17 am
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--- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
>
> God knows everything...I Kings 8:39; Psalms 139:1-6; Proverbs
3:19-20; I John 3:20
--- End Quote ---
I'm sorry Lori but I do not think these verses actually say HE
knows everything...
1 Kings 8:39...then hear from heaven, your dwelling place.
Forgive and act; deal with everyone according to all they do,
since you know their hearts (for you alone know every human
heart), [/color]only says He knows our hearts, our 3824. lebab,
Strong'sConcordance: lebab: inner man, mind, will, heart, with
cannot be counted as everything. This theme is repeated in Ps
139:1-6 butagain only includes mankind’s desires and choices
etc, not everything.Proverbs 3:19 The LORD by wisdom founded
the earth, By understanding He established the heavens. Neither
wisdom nor understanding convey the meaning of omniscience
although they go together but this refers to the physical
creation indicating that HE knows and understands how all of
creation works because He established it. It might infer that if
HE did not establish something HE might not know it.
Even the everything of 1 John 3:20 If our hearts condemn us, we
know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows
everything. is: 3956 pás ("each, every") which means "all" in
the sense of "each (every) part that applies."
3956. pas - Strong's Concordance: all, every
Usage: all, the whole, every kind of.
Why is this important? The Church Fathers accepted the pagan
Greek definition of omniscience: GOD knows all that can be known
from eternity past to eternity future. If it is wrong, they
accepted it because they idolized Greek thinking and man’s
understanding, not the Spirit. IF it is right, it means that GOD
knew before their creation who would end in hell, but created
them anyway!Is that loving? Is it kind (Love is kind.) Is it
even righteous to create for a purpose those you already know
they CAN, WILL, never be able to fulfill? What was HIS purpose
for them then anyway - to suffer, die and be damned?It is
written at least twice that HE does not want, desire, people to
die and be damned but to repent so if HE could keep hell empty
would HE not do that, ie, not create those whom HE knew would be
damned?These are my questions about the current definition of
HIS being all knowing which I suggest is seriously flawed,
blasphemous against HIS goodness and needs to be re-thought
since we know HE did create some who will be damned whatever
form that takes.My reconciliation (at this time) suggests that
HE knows everything about what HE creates. If HE did not create
something, it is not part of the everything HE Knows. For
example, if when HE created people in HIS image with a free will
HE did not create the results of their free will decisions, but
let them choose to create them by their own choice, then HE
would not know before HE created them what they might choose by
their free will since HE would not know those results until they
created them themselves.Going back to 1 Kings 8:39 and Psalm
139:5 that reference mankind conceived as sinners that HE knows
all our minds, wills and thoughts, I suggest that is because we
are fallen and under the influence of evil WITHOUT A FREE WILL
anymore and so are as predictable as a pinball game to
HIM...your mileage may vary of course.[color=#ff0000]
#Post#: 28867--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is God?
DIR By: guest24
Date: May 6, 2021, 11:47 am
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--- Quote from: Ted T. link ---
>
> [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1276.msg28861#msg28861
date=1620306911]
> God knows everything...I Kings 8:39; Psalms 139:1-6; Proverbs
3:19-20; I John 3:20
--- End Quote ---
I'm sorry Lori but I do not think these verses actually say HE
knows everything...
1 Kings 8:39...then hear from heaven, your dwelling place.
Forgive and act; deal with everyone according to all they do,
since you know their hearts (for you alone know every human
heart), [/color]only says He knows our hearts, our 3824. lebab,
Strong'sConcordance: lebab: inner man, mind, will, heart, with
cannot be counted as everything. This theme is repeated in Ps
139:1-6 butagain only includes mankind’s desires and choices
etc, not everything.Proverbs 3:19 The LORD by wisdom founded
the earth, By understanding He established the heavens. Neither
wisdom nor understanding convey the meaning of omniscience
although they go together but this refers to the physical
creation indicating that HE knows and understands how all of
creation works because He established it. It might infer that if
HE did not establish something HE might not know it.
Even the everything of 1 John 3:20 If our hearts condemn us, we
know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows
everything. is: 3956 pás ("each, every") which means "all" in
the sense of "each (every) part that applies."
3956. pas - Strong's Concordance: all, every
Usage: all, the whole, every kind of.[/quote] scripture says He
created everything, so what do you think He didn't create?
--- Quote ---
>
>
> Why is this important? The Church Fathers accepted the pagan
Greek definition of omniscience: GOD knows all that can be known
from eternity past to eternity future. If it is wrong, they
accepted it because they idolized Greek thinking and man’s
understanding, not the Spirit. IF it is right, it means that GOD
knew before their creation who would end in hell, but created
them anyway!Is that loving? Is it kind (Love is kind.
--- End Quote ---
well I would challenge the idea that God is omniscient in such
a way that we have no choice but that is a different
discussion....
--- Quote ---
> ) Is it even righteous to create for a purpose those you
already know they CAN, WILL, never be able to fulfill?
--- End Quote ---
again, I believe that God knows, or else scripture wouldn't say
He does but within that He gives man choice and that is NOT
removed simply because God knows what he will choose. I use the
example of two cakes sitting on the table. My husband will
choose the chocolate, not because I foresee what will happen but
because I know him.
--- Quote ---
> What was HIS purpose for them then anyway - to suffer, die and
be damned?
--- End Quote ---
maybe to show others the way....when our eldest was young, we
were getting ready to leave a family get together and our son
asked why his uncle was behaving so badly....we made an excuse
to which our son said, "I don't ever want to act like that."
Maybe they have a purpose that God knows and you and I can't
wrap our minds around.
--- Quote ---
> It is written at least twice that HE does not want, desire,
people to die and be damned but to repent so if HE could keep
hell empty would HE not do that, ie, not create those whom HE
knew would be damned?These are my questions about the current
definition of HIS being all knowing which I suggest is seriously
flawed, blasphemous against HIS goodness and needs to be
re-thought since we know HE did create some who will be damned
whatever form that takes.My reconciliation (at this time)
suggests that HE knows everything about what HE creates. If HE
did not create something, it is not part of the everything HE
Knows. For example, if when HE created people in HIS image with
a free will HE did not create the results of their free will
decisions, but let them choose to create them by their own
choice, then HE would not know before HE created them what they
might choose by their free will since HE would not know those
results until they created them themselves.Going back to 1 Kings
8:39 and Psalm 139:5 that reference mankind conceived as sinners
that HE knows all our minds, wills and thoughts, I suggest that
is because we are fallen and under the influence of evil WITHOUT
A FREE WILL anymore and so are as predictable as a pinball game
to HIM...your mileage may vary of course.[color=#ff0000]
>
--- End Quote ---
well, I don't see any way to make scripture say that we have no
will in thee matter, I call it free will but there are people
who play looseand free with the definition. so maybe we need
more discussion on that one too.
#Post#: 28868--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is God?
DIR By: guest24
Date: May 6, 2021, 12:02 pm
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Here is my bottom line...we cannot change scripture to fit what
we want it to say nor how we can imagine things should be.
Scripture says what it says whether or not we understand it or
can reason it out. Thus some things are accepted by faith.
#Post#: 28929--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is God?
DIR By: guest58
Date: May 7, 2021, 10:58 am
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--- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
>
> Here is my bottom line...we cannot change scripture to fit
what we want it to say nor how we can imagine things should be.
Scripture says what it says whether or not we understand it or
can reason it out. Thus some things are accepted by faith.
--- End Quote ---
[/size]
[/size]Agreed, we should not change scripture at all, but it has
happened quite a few times under the guise of helping us to
understand a difficult phrasing...such as the KJV translators
falsely rendering return as turn into in Ps 9:17 The wicked
will RETURN to Sheol—all the nations who forget God.
[/size][/color]King James Bible
HTML https://biblehub.com/kjv/psalms/9.htmThe
wicked shall be turned
into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
But more commonly it is a different or even false
interpretations of what the verse means that must be studied
prayerfully for truth. And I find that I can now no longer
accept by faith in the Church what I now see as blasphemy...
Sometimes I have an alternative to offer for consideration,
sometimes I just say this dogma is wrong, it needs to be redone.
#Post#: 28987--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is God?
DIR By: guest8
Date: May 7, 2021, 9:46 pm
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I saw your post the other day and was saddened by your beliefs
toward GOD.. God is most certainly omniscient , thus knowing
all events, things, people long before the foundations of the
earth.
Everybody is a back seat driver in the interpretations that were
written happened 4500 years ago. As you know in 380 BC or there
abouts, Alexander commissioned 70(2)-(some say 72) scribes to
translate the OT books (in Hebrew) to Greek.
" There are only consonants in Hebrew, and no vowels. It’s
what’s called a consonantal script. The meaning of a word
derives from a root of three
letters, and each three letter root word can be expanded to
create all manner of other words. Prefixes and suffixes can be
added to those three letters, forming different parts of speech
or even entirely new words; the meaning is related to those
three base letters. The particular meaning of the word depends
on how it’s pronounced when vowel sounds are added." (How we
Got Our Bible, Kiononia House)
As you can see Hebrew is complicated... The Ancient Greek is
also a lower language as well. Between these two languages,
translations to English is best left to the translators of that
time period...Only they (of each individual time period) know
how the culture at that time interpreted each language. As in
Sheol, we have the immediate use of four other meanings and
perhaps dozens of meanings when attached to the root words of
Sheol.
I just don't understand your post.
Blade
#Post#: 29137--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is God?
DIR By: guest24
Date: May 10, 2021, 9:33 am
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--- Quote from: Ted T. link ---
>
> [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1276.msg28868#msg28868
date=1620320545]
> Here is my bottom line...we cannot change scripture to fit
what we want it to say nor how we can imagine things should be.
Scripture says what it says whether or not we understand it or
can reason it out. Thus some things are accepted by faith.
--- End Quote ---
[/size]
[/size]Agreed, we should not change scripture at all, but it has
happened quite a few times under the guise of helping us to
understand a difficult phrasing...such as the KJV translators
falsely rendering return as turn into in Ps 9:17 The wicked
will RETURN to Sheol—all the nations who forget God.
[/size][/color]King James Bible
HTML https://biblehub.com/kjv/psalms/9.htmThe
wicked shall be turned
into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
But more commonly it is a different or even false
interpretations of what the verse means that must be studied
prayerfully for truth. And I find that I can now no longer
accept by faith in the Church what I now see as blasphemy...
Sometimes I have an alternative to offer for consideration,
sometimes I just say this dogma is wrong, it needs to be redone.
[/quote]This is why I have decided to start my studies with the
Holman Christain Standard Bible because it is more literal
without being difficult to read...then I move on in my study
from that start.
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Re: Who is God?
DIR By: guest17
Date: May 11, 2021, 7:43 pm
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.I'll just add that God is our Heavenly Father.
#Post#: 29475--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is God?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: May 15, 2021, 11:42 pm
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Franklin Graham reacts to Biden omitting 'God' from National Day
of Prayer
Biden is the first president to omit the word God from
proclamation; Reverend and Samaritan's Purse President weighs in
5 minutes
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