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       something curious...
       By: guest24 Date: April 5, 2021, 9:28 am
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       In a discussion, I was in about trinity something curious came
       up...I would like to hear you alls thoughts on it but I do NOT
       want another of the proof text debates about trinity so please
       curb your insistence to make this about more arguing over the
       same old tired passages and address what this tells us or what
       you make of it.
       In Gen. we are told that God made man in HIs image...that would
       be for those that have trouble sometimes, in God's own image.
       Genesis 1:27
       Then in Philippians 2, God made Jesus in man's image...why the
       difference?  and does I Corinthians 15:49 have anything to do
       with the reason for the difference? Philippians 2:7
       Curious...very curious....
       #Post#: 28182--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something curious...
       By: guest125 Date: April 5, 2021, 4:14 pm
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       In Genesis we tend to think of a particular person-- named Adam
       as who was created by God, rather than "man" or "mankind" or
       "human" or "humanity" in  a generic sense.  The mixing of terms
       and the proper name causes some of the confusion, but it might
       help you sort through it if everywhere you read "man" you
       consider it in the broader sense of the root word (not name)
       adam... or earth-man.
       Philippians 2 really is curious because in speaking about Christ
       Jesus it mentions how he existed in the form (shape) of God did
       not see equality with God a thing to be grasped.  God is spirit.
       To exist in the shape of God refers to that 'spiritual'
       existence that man was made in the image of-- the spiritual man,
       made in the image of the spiritual Father.
       And like the spiritual man is in the "form" of the spiritual
       Father, the physical man is the "appearance" (image) of that.
       If you could see somehow the invisible "shape" of God-- this is
       what it would look like in appearance (morph)  -like an outline
       of a kind of thing you cannot see... a type of...
       1 Cor 15 spells this all out specifically- this dual nature, one
       spiritual man and the other physical (earthy) man.  They are not
       the same.  They are distinct one from another in that the one is
       elemental (of earth) and then the other is breathed into that
       vessel.  And one (the spiritual) is of a higher order than the
       other-- the form of the one, not regarding equality with the
       other something to be grasped.
       So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable
       body, it is raised an imperishable body;  it is sown in
       dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is
       raised in power;  it is sown a natural body, it is raised a
       spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a
       spiritual body.  So also it is written, �The first MAN, Adam,
       BECAME A LIVING SOUL.� The last Adam became a life-giving
       spirit.  However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural;
       then the spiritual.  The first man is from the earth, earthy;
       the second man is from heaven.  As is the earthy, so also are
       those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those
       who are heavenly.  Just as we have borne the image of the
       earthy,  we will also bear the image of the heavenly.
       #Post#: 28185--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something curious...
       By: guest24 Date: April 6, 2021, 11:23 am
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       I'm not sure how that answers the question but thanks.
       #Post#: 28186--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something curious...
       By: guest8 Date: April 6, 2021, 9:29 pm
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       [quote author=Mr E link=topic=1262.msg28182#msg28182
       date=1617657299]
       In Genesis we tend to think of a particular person-- named Adam
       as who was created by God, rather than "man" or "mankind" or
       "human" or "humanity" in  a generic sense.  The mixing of terms
       and the proper name causes some of the confusion, but it might
       help you sort through it if everywhere you read "man" you
       consider it in the broader sense of the root word (not name)
       adam... or earth-man.
       Philippians 2 really is curious because in speaking about Christ
       Jesus it mentions how he existed in the form (shape) of God did
       not see equality with God a thing to be grasped.  God is spirit.
       To exist in the shape of God refers to that 'spiritual'
       existence that man was made in the image of-- the spiritual man,
       made in the image of the spiritual Father.
       And like the spiritual man is in the "form" of the spiritual
       Father, the physical man is the "appearance" (image) of that.
       If you could see somehow the invisible "shape" of God-- this is
       what it would look like in appearance (morph)  -like an outline
       of a kind of thing you cannot see... a type of...
       1 Cor 15 spells this all out specifically- this dual nature, one
       spiritual man and the other physical (earthy) man.  They are not
       the same.  They are distinct one from another in that the one is
       elemental (of earth) and then the other is breathed into that
       vessel.  And one (the spiritual) is of a higher order than the
       other-- the form of the one, not regarding equality with the
       other something to be grasped.
       So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable
       body, it is raised an imperishable body;  it is sown in
       dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is
       raised in power;  it is sown a natural body, it is raised a
       spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a
       spiritual body.  So also it is written, �The first MAN, Adam,
       BECAME A LIVING SOUL.� The last Adam became a life-giving
       spirit.  However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural;
       then the spiritual.  The first man is from the earth, earthy;
       the second man is from heaven.  As is the earthy, so also are
       those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those
       who are heavenly.  Just as we have borne the image of the
       earthy,  we will also bear the image of the heavenly.
       [/quote]
       Very good answer..Mr. E
       The Bible is a collection of patterns. In Gen 1, GOD made man in
       His own image.  Was this man (ADAM) of Flesh and Bone and bathed
       in LIGHT? For after the resurrection this is what Jesus was and
       it will be what we are to be according to 1 John 3:2. Adam the
       first man and Jesus the Last Adam.
       Blade
       #Post#: 28187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something curious...
       By: guest125 Date: April 6, 2021, 10:10 pm
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       [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1262.msg28185#msg28185
       date=1617726198]
       I'm not sure how that answers the question but thanks.
       [/quote]
       Can I simplify?  Sure.
       God is Spirit.  The man made in the image of the Spiritual
       Father, is the spiritual man.  (Son of God)
       Jesus is flesh.  The man made in the image of the earth-man
       (adam) physical father is flesh (physical).  (Son of man)
       #Post#: 29474--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something curious...
       By: patrick jane Date: May 15, 2021, 11:42 pm
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       Franklin Graham reacts to Biden omitting 'God' from National Day
       of Prayer
       Biden is the first president to omit the word God from
       proclamation; Reverend and Samaritan's Purse President weighs in
       5 minutes
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsz0NBaA0lk
       #Post#: 30382--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something curious...
       By: patrick jane Date: May 27, 2021, 5:32 pm
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       >:(
       #Post#: 30392--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something curious...
       By: guest8 Date: May 27, 2021, 9:27 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1262.msg30382#msg30382
       date=1622154738]
       >:(
       [/quote]
       more people will be saved during Daniel's 70th week  than any
       other time in history according to the Jesus and His Word, the
       Bible.
       Blade
       #Post#: 30394--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something curious...
       By: patrick jane Date: May 27, 2021, 9:36 pm
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       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1262.msg30392#msg30392
       date=1622168879]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1262.msg30382#msg30382
       date=1622154738]
       >:(
       [/quote]
       more people will be saved during Daniel's 70th week  than any
       other time in history according to the Jesus and His Word, the
       Bible.
       Blade
       [/quote]Good news !!!
       #Post#: 30398--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something curious...
       By: guest8 Date: May 27, 2021, 9:42 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1262.msg30394#msg30394
       date=1622169371]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1262.msg30392#msg30392
       date=1622168879]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1262.msg30382#msg30382
       date=1622154738]
       >:(
       [/quote]
       more people will be saved during Daniel's 70th week  than any
       other time in history according to the Jesus and His Word, the
       Bible.
       Blade
       [/quote]Good news !!!
       [/quote]
       Curiously they are called the 'elect'
       Blade
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