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Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: rstrats Date: February 12, 2021, 6:05 am
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1. The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights
in the "heart of the earth".
2. There are some who think that the crucifixion took place on
the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on
the 1st day of the week.
3. And of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the
earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the moment
when His spirit left His body).
4. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the
week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.
5. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of
those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night
by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of
speech/colloquial language.
6. I'm simply curious if anyone who may fall in the above group
of believers might provide examples to support the belief of
commonality; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was
forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a
daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.
#Post#: 25194--------------------------------------------------
Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: guest8 Date: February 13, 2021, 7:11 pm
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[quote author=rstrats link=topic=1218.msg25107#msg25107
date=1613131525]
1. The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights
in the "heart of the earth".
2. There are some who think that the crucifixion took place on
the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on
the 1st day of the week.
3. And of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the
earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the moment
when His spirit left His body).
4. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the
week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.
5. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of
those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night
by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of
speech/colloquial language.
6. I'm simply curious if anyone who may fall in the above group
of believers might provide examples to support the belief of
commonality; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was
forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a
daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.
[/quote]
Hi rstrats
NOT ME>>>>I know He spent three full days in the grave and those
days in Abraham's bosom before He was resurrected.
Blade
#Post#: 25196--------------------------------------------------
Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: rstrats Date: February 13, 2021, 8:16 pm
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Bladerunner,
re: "NOT ME"
OK, no problem. Someone new looking in may know of examples.
#Post#: 25251--------------------------------------------------
Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: guest8 Date: February 15, 2021, 1:48 pm
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[quote author=rstrats link=topic=1218.msg25196#msg25196
date=1613269001]
Bladerunner,
re: "NOT ME"
OK, no problem. Someone new looking in may know of examples.
[/quote]
LOL,,,,rstrats....I think I was agreeing with you!!??!?! lol.
Blade
#Post#: 32496--------------------------------------------------
Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: rstrats Date: June 28, 2021, 1:09 pm
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And that "someone new" needs to be someone who believes the
crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with a 1st day
of the week resurrection, and who thinks that the "heart of the
earth" is referring to the tomb, and who tries to explain the
lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was employing
common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period.
#Post#: 32502--------------------------------------------------
Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: guest125 Date: June 28, 2021, 2:49 pm
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It was three dog nights and the heart of the earth is Shambala.
yeah yeah yeah yeah yay.
HTML https://youtu.be/xnyh6i9NvmE
#Post#: 32503--------------------------------------------------
Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: guest125 Date: June 28, 2021, 3:25 pm
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No?
How about this? 'The stomach of the earth'...? It's the same
word in Hebrew.... The three days and three nights that Jonah
was in the belly, or stomach, or "heart" of the fish. And this
'place' that Jonah found himself, he calls "Sheol" -in other
words, there is 'an-other' word to express the same concept.
Heart, belly, stomach, Sheol, underworld, place of death, even
womb.... or grave, or tomb.... you pick.
And we know that Jesus was talking about the same thing because
he explicitly states he's talking about the very same thing...
(Matt 12)
--for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY
OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and
three nights in the heart of the earth.
I don't think it's so much a matter of timing, as much as it is
about location, location, location. Hosea 6 prophesied that the
people would be revived after two days.... on the third day.
It could be as simple a comparison as if we were telling a story
and said something like "a few days later" or "sometime later"
- as opposed to a specific time such as if you were to say-
"later that same day" or "the very next day."
Why do you ask? What significance do you apportion to this?
#Post#: 32504--------------------------------------------------
Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: rstrats Date: June 28, 2021, 3:41 pm
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Mr E,
re: "No?"
I don't understand. What are you asking?
re: "Heart, belly, stomach, Sheol, underworld, place of death,
even womb.... or grave, or tomb.... you pick."
The OP does that. This topic is directed to those who believe
that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb or at the
earliest to the moment when His spirit left His body.
re: "Why do you ask?"
Simply curious.
#Post#: 32505--------------------------------------------------
Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: guest125 Date: June 28, 2021, 4:48 pm
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It's interesting if you really want to dive into it. The Jewish
day (yom) is of course 24 "hours" long. 12 hours for the day
and 12 hours for the night.
Secondly, as seasons change for example-- as the days become
shorter in the winter and the nights longer... they account for
this by making the "hours" shorter or longer as well. In San
Diego, last week the first day of summer on the 21st we had 14
hours, 17 minutes of sunshine. Who cares? The Jews would
simply make the hours longer so that there were exactly 12 hours
in that day and not 14+... Similarly that night there was only
9 hours, 43 minutes of darkness... wouldn't matter to the Jews-
they would quicken the pace and shorten those hours so that
there was exactly 12.
When scripture speaks of 'the sixth hour" (when Jesus was
crucified) they are always speaking of half way through the
day-- noon, or conversely half-way through the night or
'mid-night'.
This is much more of an exact way of speaking than what you are
asking about concerning "three days" which would be more like
me referencing something I did "last weekend." I can say
"weekend" without specifying if I meant 'what I did on Saturday'
or 'what I did on Saturday and/or Sunday' or even 'what I did
after work on Friday until Monday' -- and maybe it was a "long
weekend...." Was it? I didn't say. So too with the phrase
"three days."
Does that help?
#Post#: 32506--------------------------------------------------
Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?
By: rstrats Date: June 28, 2021, 4:57 pm
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Mr E,
re: "Does that help?"
Well since none of your comments provide examples which show
that it was common to forecast or say that a daytime or a night
time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime
or no part of a night time could occur, then I'm afraid that it
doesn't.
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