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       #Post#: 24972--------------------------------------------------
       Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: February 9, 2021, 9:03 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
       9 minutes
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4geG_51ISI
       #Post#: 25024--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: February 11, 2021, 10:06 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       What I and some others (though they seem few and far between) is
       that Genesis is a polemic, not a scientific treatise.  As such
       it is incredibly rich in biblical truths that deserve to be
       explored in more depth but instead, too many people get hung up
       on trying to draw out of it a contradiction for the world view
       of how life began.
       #Post#: 25026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: February 11, 2021, 10:27 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
       >
       > What I and some others (though they seem few and far between)
       is that Genesis is a polemic, not a scientific treatise.  As
       such it is incredibly rich in biblical truths that deserve to be
       explored in more depth but instead, too many people get hung up
       on trying to draw out of it a contradiction for the world view
       of how life began.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Bible is literal unless we can see clearly that it is not.
       Always literal unless it's not.
       #Post#: 25031--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: February 11, 2021, 2:19 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25024#msg25024
       date=1613059618]
       > What I and some others (though they seem few and far between)
       is that Genesis is a polemic, not a scientific treatise.  As
       such it is incredibly rich in biblical truths that deserve to be
       explored in more depth but instead, too many people get hung up
       on trying to draw out of it a contradiction for the world view
       of how life began.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Bible is literal unless we can see clearly that it is not.
       Always literal unless it's not.
       [/quote]that was kind of my point, it is written like a polemic,
       not a scientific treatise...to read it literally means we take
       that into account.
       #Post#: 25032--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: February 11, 2021, 3:13 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1215.msg25026#msg25026
       date=1613060823]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25024#msg25024
       date=1613059618]
       > What I and some others (though they seem few and far between)
       is that Genesis is a polemic, not a scientific treatise.  As
       such it is incredibly rich in biblical truths that deserve to be
       explored in more depth but instead, too many people get hung up
       on trying to draw out of it a contradiction for the world view
       of how life began.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Bible is literal unless we can see clearly that it is not.
       Always literal unless it's not.
       [/quote]that was kind of my point, it is written like a polemic,
       not a scientific treatise...to read it literally means we take
       that into account.
       [/quote]
       It seems the literal reading of the Bible is being assaulted
       from every side. One's worldview controls as with most
       everything how one interprets the Bible.
       Do you really--really believe in GOD/Jesus///If you truly
       believe in His Gospel, then He can do anything including the
       authorship of everyword in the Bible.
       If you truly believe, then those words of Jesus cannot be
       removed, changed, added, etc. Yet, the world specifically
       America will declare war in the coming days/weeks against the
       Christian.
       Polemic Theology is s small relative ineffective theology.
       Reading the Bible Literally, Historically and Grammatically
       bring the words of the Bible together without controversy and/
       or contradictions.
       Blade
       #Post#: 25110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: February 12, 2021, 8:20 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25031#msg25031
       date=1613074741]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1215.msg25026#msg25026
       date=1613060823]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25024#msg25024
       date=1613059618]
       > What I and some others (though they seem few and far between)
       is that Genesis is a polemic, not a scientific treatise.  As
       such it is incredibly rich in biblical truths that deserve to be
       explored in more depth but instead, too many people get hung up
       on trying to draw out of it a contradiction for the world view
       of how life began.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Bible is literal unless we can see clearly that it is not.
       Always literal unless it's not.
       [/quote]that was kind of my point, it is written like a polemic,
       not a scientific treatise...to read it literally means we take
       that into account.
       [/quote]
       It seems the literal reading of the Bible is being assaulted
       from every side. One's worldview controls as with most
       everything how one interprets the Bible.
       Do you really--really believe in GOD/Jesus///If you truly
       believe in His Gospel, then He can do anything including the
       authorship of everyword in the Bible.
       If you truly believe, then those words of Jesus cannot be
       removed, changed, added, etc. Yet, the world specifically
       America will declare war in the coming days/weeks against the
       Christian.
       Polemic Theology is s small relative ineffective theology.
       Reading the Bible Literally, Historically and Grammatically
       bring the words of the Bible together without controversy and/
       or contradictions.
       Blade
       [/quote]So...that would mean that you read parables as real life
       situations rather than analogies that express a point...and what
       about poems, those are factual, literal explanations of things
       as well...how sad that you don't even take Jesus at his word
       when He says something is a parable that it is a parable...I'm
       praying for you
       #Post#: 25121--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: February 12, 2021, 7:01 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1215.msg25032#msg25032
       date=1613078018]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25031#msg25031
       date=1613074741]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1215.msg25026#msg25026
       date=1613060823]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25024#msg25024
       date=1613059618]
       > What I and some others (though they seem few and far between)
       is that Genesis is a polemic, not a scientific treatise.  As
       such it is incredibly rich in biblical truths that deserve to be
       explored in more depth but instead, too many people get hung up
       on trying to draw out of it a contradiction for the world view
       of how life began.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Bible is literal unless we can see clearly that it is not.
       Always literal unless it's not.
       [/quote]that was kind of my point, it is written like a polemic,
       not a scientific treatise...to read it literally means we take
       that into account.
       [/quote]
       It seems the literal reading of the Bible is being assaulted
       from every side. One's worldview controls as with most
       everything how one interprets the Bible.
       Do you really--really believe in GOD/Jesus///If you truly
       believe in His Gospel, then He can do anything including the
       authorship of everyword in the Bible.
       If you truly believe, then those words of Jesus cannot be
       removed, changed, added, etc. Yet, the world specifically
       America will declare war in the coming days/weeks against the
       Christian.
       Polemic Theology is s small relative ineffective theology.
       Reading the Bible Literally, Historically and Grammatically
       bring the words of the Bible together without controversy and/
       or contradictions.
       Blade
       [/quote]So...that would mean that you read parables as real life
       situations rather than analogies that express a point...and what
       about poems, those are factual, literal explanations of things
       as well...how sad that you don't even take Jesus at his word
       when He says something is a parable that it is a parable...I'm
       praying for you
       [/quote]
       one minute you chatise me for reading parables as real life
       situations and the next that I don't take Jesus at His word when
       He says a parable is a parable.
       As far as analogies go, there are some 200 different
       grammatically structures in the Bible which is why I have always
       said that to read the Bible Literally, Historically and
       grammatically is the only way to go.
       Thank you for your thoughts.
       Blade
       #Post#: 25187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: February 13, 2021, 9:48 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25110#msg25110
       date=1613139631]
       > [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1215.msg25032#msg25032
       date=1613078018]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25031#msg25031
       date=1613074741]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1215.msg25026#msg25026
       date=1613060823]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25024#msg25024
       date=1613059618]
       > What I and some others (though they seem few and far between)
       is that Genesis is a polemic, not a scientific treatise.  As
       such it is incredibly rich in biblical truths that deserve to be
       explored in more depth but instead, too many people get hung up
       on trying to draw out of it a contradiction for the world view
       of how life began.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Bible is literal unless we can see clearly that it is not.
       Always literal unless it's not.
       [/quote]that was kind of my point, it is written like a polemic,
       not a scientific treatise...to read it literally means we take
       that into account.
       [/quote]
       It seems the literal reading of the Bible is being assaulted
       from every side. One's worldview controls as with most
       everything how one interprets the Bible.
       Do you really--really believe in GOD/Jesus///If you truly
       believe in His Gospel, then He can do anything including the
       authorship of everyword in the Bible.
       If you truly believe, then those words of Jesus cannot be
       removed, changed, added, etc. Yet, the world specifically
       America will declare war in the coming days/weeks against the
       Christian.
       Polemic Theology is s small relative ineffective theology.
       Reading the Bible Literally, Historically and Grammatically
       bring the words of the Bible together without controversy and/
       or contradictions.
       Blade
       [/quote]So...that would mean that you read parables as real life
       situations rather than analogies that express a point...and what
       about poems, those are factual, literal explanations of things
       as well...how sad that you don't even take Jesus at his word
       when He says something is a parable that it is a parable...I'm
       praying for you
       [/quote]
       one minute you chatise me for reading parables as real life
       situations and the next that I don't take Jesus at His word when
       He says a parable is a parable.
       As far as analogies go, there are some 200 different
       grammatically structures in the Bible which is why I have always
       said that to read the Bible Literally, Historically and
       grammatically is the only way to go.
       Thank you for your thoughts.
       Blade
       [/quote]which is exactly why I said that Gen. reads/is
       structured as a polemic and you challenged that to say we have
       to read it literally...what would reading a polemic literally
       mean?
       #Post#: 25190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: February 13, 2021, 7:02 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1215.msg25121#msg25121
       date=1613178066]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25110#msg25110
       date=1613139631]
       > [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1215.msg25032#msg25032
       date=1613078018]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25031#msg25031
       date=1613074741]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1215.msg25026#msg25026
       date=1613060823]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25024#msg25024
       date=1613059618]
       > What I and some others (though they seem few and far between)
       is that Genesis is a polemic, not a scientific treatise.  As
       such it is incredibly rich in biblical truths that deserve to be
       explored in more depth but instead, too many people get hung up
       on trying to draw out of it a contradiction for the world view
       of how life began.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Bible is literal unless we can see clearly that it is not.
       Always literal unless it's not.
       [/quote]that was kind of my point, it is written like a polemic,
       not a scientific treatise...to read it literally means we take
       that into account.
       [/quote]
       It seems the literal reading of the Bible is being assaulted
       from every side. One's worldview controls as with most
       everything how one interprets the Bible.
       Do you really--really believe in GOD/Jesus///If you truly
       believe in His Gospel, then He can do anything including the
       authorship of everyword in the Bible.
       If you truly believe, then those words of Jesus cannot be
       removed, changed, added, etc. Yet, the world specifically
       America will declare war in the coming days/weeks against the
       Christian.
       Polemic Theology is s small relative ineffective theology.
       Reading the Bible Literally, Historically and Grammatically
       bring the words of the Bible together without controversy and/
       or contradictions.
       Blade
       [/quote]So...that would mean that you read parables as real life
       situations rather than analogies that express a point...and what
       about poems, those are factual, literal explanations of things
       as well...how sad that you don't even take Jesus at his word
       when He says something is a parable that it is a parable...I'm
       praying for you
       [/quote]
       one minute you chatise me for reading parables as real life
       situations and the next that I don't take Jesus at His word when
       He says a parable is a parable.
       As far as analogies go, there are some 200 different
       grammatically structures in the Bible which is why I have always
       said that to read the Bible Literally, Historically and
       grammatically is the only way to go.
       Thank you for your thoughts.
       Blade
       [/quote]which is exactly why I said that Gen. reads/is
       structured as a polemic and you challenged that to say we have
       to read it literally...what would reading a polemic literally
       mean?
       [/quote]
       Polemic:;;;;a strong verbal or written attack on someone or
       something.  Is this how you see GOD. He is attacking someone or
       something?
       Believe you have the wrong word.
       Blessing, my friend
       Blade
       #Post#: 25249--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is Genesis Meant to be Literal | Why I don't take Genesis
       Literally
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: February 15, 2021, 8:07 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25187#msg25187
       date=1613231295]
       > [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1215.msg25121#msg25121
       date=1613178066]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25110#msg25110
       date=1613139631]
       > [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1215.msg25032#msg25032
       date=1613078018]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25031#msg25031
       date=1613074741]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1215.msg25026#msg25026
       date=1613060823]
       > [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1215.msg25024#msg25024
       date=1613059618]
       > What I and some others (though they seem few and far between)
       is that Genesis is a polemic, not a scientific treatise.  As
       such it is incredibly rich in biblical truths that deserve to be
       explored in more depth but instead, too many people get hung up
       on trying to draw out of it a contradiction for the world view
       of how life began.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Bible is literal unless we can see clearly that it is not.
       Always literal unless it's not.
       [/quote]that was kind of my point, it is written like a polemic,
       not a scientific treatise...to read it literally means we take
       that into account.
       [/quote]
       It seems the literal reading of the Bible is being assaulted
       from every side. One's worldview controls as with most
       everything how one interprets the Bible.
       Do you really--really believe in GOD/Jesus///If you truly
       believe in His Gospel, then He can do anything including the
       authorship of everyword in the Bible.
       If you truly believe, then those words of Jesus cannot be
       removed, changed, added, etc. Yet, the world specifically
       America will declare war in the coming days/weeks against the
       Christian.
       Polemic Theology is s small relative ineffective theology.
       Reading the Bible Literally, Historically and Grammatically
       bring the words of the Bible together without controversy and/
       or contradictions.
       Blade
       [/quote]So...that would mean that you read parables as real life
       situations rather than analogies that express a point...and what
       about poems, those are factual, literal explanations of things
       as well...how sad that you don't even take Jesus at his word
       when He says something is a parable that it is a parable...I'm
       praying for you
       [/quote]
       one minute you chatise me for reading parables as real life
       situations and the next that I don't take Jesus at His word when
       He says a parable is a parable.
       As far as analogies go, there are some 200 different
       grammatically structures in the Bible which is why I have always
       said that to read the Bible Literally, Historically and
       grammatically is the only way to go.
       Thank you for your thoughts.
       Blade
       [/quote]which is exactly why I said that Gen. reads/is
       structured as a polemic and you challenged that to say we have
       to read it literally...what would reading a polemic literally
       mean?
       [/quote]
       Polemic:;;;;a strong verbal or written attack on someone or
       something.  Is this how you see GOD. He is attacking someone or
       something?
       Believe you have the wrong word.
       Blessing, my friend
       Blade
       [/quote]So you do not believe that God is attacking the notion
       that many have that it is okay to worship the creation rather
       than the creator?  Remember, your own definition says someone or
       SOMETHING...
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