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Re: Trinity cannot be validated via Scripture.
By: True Believer Date: January 8, 2021, 9:47 am
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[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1173.msg23473#msg23473
date=1610119342]
[quote author=True Believer link=topic=1173.msg23472#msg23472
date=1610117117]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1173.msg23471#msg23471
date=1610116565]
[quote author=True Believer link=topic=1173.msg23470#msg23470
date=1610115261]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1173.msg23469#msg23469
date=1610113293]
As I understand God, He is One. God is triune in nature, three
persons of God. Therefore, the Father's Will is always done.
Jesus Christ in uncreated and God IS the Holy Ghost as well. I
believe completely in the divinity of Jesus and His knowledge
and power were diminished while He was in the flesh, in my
opinion.
[/quote]
I believe in the Divinity of Jesus as well but Divinity does not
equal Deity.. this is where people get things mixed up...
When you say diminished, are you saying that the Angels of God
that came down to minister to Jesus were not being completely
forthcoming???[/quote] I feel like we are trying to bite off
more than we can chew in one bite...so I'll try to jump
in...starting here. I do NOT believe that we can fully
understand the trinity in the flesh, it takes faith. That being
said one explanation I heard which is valid from the standpoint
of scripture is that of a government...One government but
different rulers. Of course, this isn't a perfect illustration
in that we have to accept it by faith but it does show the
concept in a manner that makes logical sense which as I
understand your current argument it is about logic, not
scripture.
This understanding then leaves no quandary that I understand
here. [quote]
The second you split God into 3 separate persons you are
creating 3 separate Gods.. now when a person states that Jesus
was God in the flesh then you open a can of worms you cannot
close because by that very statement Jesus was , In Fact, God,
therefore Jesus would be doing his own will and not that of
someone else..[/quote] as I understand trinity teaching (not
orthodox but mainstream) God revealed Himself in three different
personifications...iow's not three different persons which we
know that as one being Spirit would be the "logical" teaching,
but rather three different manifestations of One being. A
modern day example would be that I am daughter, wife, and
mother. One person three different manifestations of who I am
in totality. [quote]
I know many will look at what I just said and take it all out of
context because they will only focus on one thing, which is what
Trinitarians do, find the one thing they can rail against.
Example, do you believe that we are free from the Law of God?
[/quote]Not sure what you mean by this, which law? There is the
law of sin and death, the Mosaic law, the ten commandment law,
and the law of Love...which are you referring to here?
[/quote]
there is only one Law of God...[/quote] which one are you
referring to? I'm not following the question. [quote]
I was actually hoping you would pop in here...TY for showing
up...
[/quote]I don't know whether to be nervous, scared, or
complimented....lol
[/quote]
There is only one Law of God and Jesus himself spoke of it and
it alone... even quoted it...
I would say complimented mainly...
#Post#: 23476--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trinity cannot be validated via Scripture.
By: guest24 Date: January 8, 2021, 10:04 am
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[quote author=True Believer link=topic=1173.msg23475#msg23475
date=1610120854]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1173.msg23473#msg23473
date=1610119342]
[quote author=True Believer link=topic=1173.msg23472#msg23472
date=1610117117]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=1173.msg23471#msg23471
date=1610116565]
[quote author=True Believer link=topic=1173.msg23470#msg23470
date=1610115261]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1173.msg23469#msg23469
date=1610113293]
As I understand God, He is One. God is triune in nature, three
persons of God. Therefore, the Father's Will is always done.
Jesus Christ in uncreated and God IS the Holy Ghost as well. I
believe completely in the divinity of Jesus and His knowledge
and power were diminished while He was in the flesh, in my
opinion.
[/quote]please repeat it so I know what we are talking
about...as I pointed out there are several laws talked about in
scripture. If I don't know which one we are talking about I
can't possibly know how to answer.
I believe in the Divinity of Jesus as well but Divinity does not
equal Deity.. this is where people get things mixed up...
When you say diminished, are you saying that the Angels of God
that came down to minister to Jesus were not being completely
forthcoming???[/quote] I feel like we are trying to bite off
more than we can chew in one bite...so I'll try to jump
in...starting here. I do NOT believe that we can fully
understand the trinity in the flesh, it takes faith. That being
said one explanation I heard which is valid from the standpoint
of scripture is that of a government...One government but
different rulers. Of course, this isn't a perfect illustration
in that we have to accept it by faith but it does show the
concept in a manner that makes logical sense which as I
understand your current argument it is about logic, not
scripture.
This understanding then leaves no quandary that I understand
here. [quote]
The second you split God into 3 separate persons you are
creating 3 separate Gods.. now when a person states that Jesus
was God in the flesh then you open a can of worms you cannot
close because by that very statement Jesus was , In Fact, God,
therefore Jesus would be doing his own will and not that of
someone else..[/quote] as I understand trinity teaching (not
orthodox but mainstream) God revealed Himself in three different
personifications...iow's not three different persons which we
know that as one being Spirit would be the "logical" teaching,
but rather three different manifestations of One being. A
modern day example would be that I am daughter, wife, and
mother. One person three different manifestations of who I am
in totality. [quote]
I know many will look at what I just said and take it all out of
context because they will only focus on one thing, which is what
Trinitarians do, find the one thing they can rail against.
Example, do you believe that we are free from the Law of God?
[/quote]Not sure what you mean by this, which law? There is the
law of sin and death, the Mosaic law, the ten commandment law,
and the law of Love...which are you referring to here?
[/quote]
there is only one Law of God...[/quote] which one are you
referring to? I'm not following the question. [quote]
I was actually hoping you would pop in here...TY for showing
up...
[/quote]I don't know whether to be nervous, scared, or
complimented....lol
[/quote]
There is only one Law of God and Jesus himself spoke of it and
it alone... even quoted it...
I would say complimented mainly...
[/quote]
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Re: Trinity cannot be validated via Scripture.
By: True Believer Date: January 8, 2021, 10:57 am
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When a Trinitarian cannot show proof of Jesus being God in the
flesh they fall back to the "Second Person of or in God"
they then say that Jesus was actually God in the flesh,
reverting back to the same argument that they couldn't validate
the very first time, thereby contradicting themselves before
they even get started..
so when they are asked a question, which is validated by
scripture, "if Jesus were God in the Flesh, then whose will did
he come to do if not his own?"
this is where the jumbled mess comes in and all the deflections
because they know they cannot explain that verse without making
Jesus out to be a liar.
The Deity of the Holy Spirit is factual and Jesus makes it so
when he said " God is a Spirit".. where does the Father come
in???.... He calls God his father, who is, in fact the Holy
Ghost/Spirit.
Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the
angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph,
thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for
that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."
Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy
Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall
overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be
born of thee shall be called the Son of God."
It doesn't say shall be God, it says Son of God.
Twisting scripture and dividing God up into 3 separate beings
has no solid foundation in scripture, anywhere...
People who utilize Paul as a defense do not comprehend what it
is that Paul is actually saying...
I love it when they say that "Paul says we are free from the Law
of God." then they say that Paul says that the Law is sin and
death... completely ignoring the Question Paul stated Romans 7:7
" What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had
not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except
the law had said, Thou shalt not covet."
they completely reject Paul..
Paul even says that the Law is Holy, and the commandment is
holy, and good and just." Romans 7:12
how would people know they were sinning if God hadn't told that
what not to do?
#Post#: 23478--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trinity cannot be validated via Scripture.
By: guest24 Date: January 8, 2021, 11:25 am
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[quote author=True Believer link=topic=1173.msg23477#msg23477
date=1610125054]
When a Trinitarian cannot show proof of Jesus being God in the
flesh they fall back to the "Second Person of or in God"[/quote]
I have been told I'm not trine because I am not of orthodox
trinity view...so some of what you are saying will slip by me
without understanding because the only trinity I am familiar
with is 1. scripture and 2. what most non catholic churches I
have heard teach, which is NOT orthodoxy. [quote]
they then say that Jesus was actually God in the flesh,
reverting back to the same argument that they couldn't validate
the very first time, thereby contradicting themselves before
they even get started..[/quote] I believe there are two ways
that Jesus was God in the flesh...first, John 1:14, I take by
faith and 2. as the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God, He would be God in
flesh...John 3:16 [quote]
so when they are asked a question, which is validated by
scripture, "if Jesus were God in the Flesh, then whose will did
he come to do if not his own?"
[/quote] The Father's...as of above, there are two ways to
understand it, 1. that of the government analogy that I posted
in my first response and 2. as the Son, He would have a Father,
just as at His baptism we see the HS appearing as a dove all the
while the voice of God is speaking from heaven...you see, if
Jesus took on the flesh of man, He would need the will of the
NON flesh portion (for lack of a better word) to be the
voice/will/command that He would follow. Not to mention He is
our example of obedience. [quote]
this is where the jumbled mess comes in and all the deflections
because they know they cannot explain that verse without making
Jesus out to be a liar.[/quote] which verse am I supposedly
deflecting? You lost me again, just like you not specifying
what law you are referring to is confusing me. [quote]
The Deity of the Holy Spirit is factual and Jesus makes it so
when he said " God is a Spirit".. where does the Father come
in???.... He calls God his father, who is, in fact the Holy
Ghost/Spirit.[/quote] and yet in the case of Jesus baptism we
see the Father speaking from heaven while the Spirit descends
like a dove....I am always confused by non trins who try to use
the Father is spirit as a way to negate Jesus being God in the
flesh. [quote]
Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the
angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph,
thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for
that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."
Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy
Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall
overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be
born of thee shall be called the Son of God."
It doesn't say shall be God, it says Son of God.[/quote] as son
of God, He is the God man which is what I have always heard
taught. [quote]
Twisting scripture and dividing God up into 3 separate beings
has no solid foundation in scripture, anywhere...[/quote] now it
sounds like you are back to orthodoxy rather than mainstream.
[quote]
People who utilize Paul as a defense do not comprehend what it
is that Paul is actually saying...
I love it when they say that "Paul says we are free from the Law
of God." then they say that Paul says that the Law is sin and
death... completely ignoring the Question Paul stated Romans 7:7
" What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had
not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except
the law had said, Thou shalt not covet."[/quote] you are
confusing two different laws...when Paul talks about the law he
is referring to the Mosaic law or the ten commandments which are
like a summary...the law of sin and death is a natural law thus
very different. [quote]
they completely reject Paul..
Paul even says that the Law is Holy, and the commandment is
holy, and good and just." Romans 7:12[/quote] do you know why
the Mosaic law is good and holy and just? It is because it is a
more detailed understanding of the law of Love which is the law
we are called to obey. Matthew 22:40...iow's Love is holy,
good, and just...amen and the Law (Mosaic) teaches us what real
Love is. [quote]
how would people know they were sinning if God hadn't told that
what not to do?
[/quote]Thus the law...not sure why the question but that is the
purpose of the law as in the Mosaic law, the law of sin and
death is a very different law.
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Re: Trinity cannot be validated via Scripture.
By: True Believer Date: January 8, 2021, 11:50 am
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everyone bear with me.. I am still trying to figure out the
whole quoting thing on here...
#Post#: 23480--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trinity cannot be validated via Scripture.
By: patrick jane Date: January 8, 2021, 12:48 pm
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TB, when the angels ministered to Him they were sent from the
Father, we can only assume.
#Post#: 23481--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trinity cannot be validated via Scripture.
By: patrick jane Date: January 8, 2021, 12:57 pm
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You see TB? How this thread started, that's why I don't really
debate this topic. It is settled whether or not we comprehend.
There are simply too many instances of Jesus Christ being equal
with God for me to ignore. In fact, I refuse to ignore them.
John 1:1-3 tells me everything and nothing can refute that.
My belief is that this particular topic is too deep for mankind
to grasp. We can't prove it yet God's words in the Bible prove
the trinity. I say Jesus' powers were diminished or veiled as it
were, and this was God's Will. In His earthly ministry Jesus
prayed to God, asked God for help and always said He did nothing
with God the Father saying so. Jesus could still call 12 Legions
of Angels and raise the dead and heal and perform miracles. He
was worshipped as God.
True Believer, it is you who need to prove that Jesus is not God
because the scriptures proclaim it.
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Re: Trinity cannot be validated via Scripture.
By: guest8 Date: January 8, 2021, 9:43 pm
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Quote from: True Believer on Today at 10:57:34 am
"The Deity of the Holy Spirit is factual and Jesus makes it so
when he said " God is a Spirit".. where does the Father come
in???.... He calls God his father, who is, in fact the Holy
Ghost/Spirit."
In Gen 1:2.." ...............And the Spirit of God moved upon
the face of the waters."
Here we see that GOD as a whole has a Spirit. This spirit is
composed of six other spirits... It is clear from this that God
can manifest himself in different personalities (I am saying
this loosely because the Holy Spirit is not a figure as Jesus
was). In Psa 2, we can see all three of them speaking to each
other. In 1 Tim, Jesus Himself tells us GOD had become flesh
(that is if Jesus authored the Bible).
Let me answer your question to me: "Whose will was Jesus doing,
if he were in fact God in the Flesh, if not his own? because he
clearly states that he is doing the will of the one who sent
him.."
It is apparent that Jesus as a man had abdicated any Godly
powers. For to me, He expected the Jews would indeed accept Him
and the Kingdom of Heaven would be brought in. He did not know
what awaited Him as that was evident at Gethsemane garden. Mat
26:39.."And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and
prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup
pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt."
Had he known he was GOD, all he had to do was call down his army
of angels. Yet, it seems he did not know He was GOD but rather;
as you (TB) state "He was doing the will of God, His father"
In Mat 26:63, Caiaphas ask Jesus if He was:"that thou tell us
whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God."
in the next verse, Jesus tells Caiaphas: "........ Hereafter
shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power,
and coming in the clouds of heaven."
Here, we we Jesus knows that the Son of Man will sit at the
right hand of GOD...Yet he did not dispute Caiaphas' statement!
You see, Jesus knew that God was His father but he does not seem
to know at that time his power.
Why did Jesus cry " Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" before his next
to last breath on the Cross....could it be that He did not know
at all what was going to happen to him..
The trinity is so much more that Jesus saying I am GOD! He tells
us in so many ways, yet there is a movement states Jesus is not
GOD....This is very dangerous direction to take.
One last point: In Isa 44:6, God states:" I am the first, and I
am the last; "
In Isa 48:12..God tells us : " I am the first, I also am the
last."
In Rev 1:11..Jesus (speaking to John states).." I am Alpha and
Omega, the first and the last:"
OOPS,,,, Jesus said He was what....
to be clear: Rev 1:17..Jesus said to John, when he John fell at
Jesus' feet..."Fear not; I am the first and the last:"
OOPS again.....
THEN Jesus tells us in the next verse (Rev 1:18).."I am he that
liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore,
Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."
Regardless of what most will tell you, After the first verse of
Revelation, Jesus not GOD (the father) is speaking and here in
Rev 1:17-18 [proves the speaker is Jesus) and also proves He is
the same GOD who spoke through Isaiah 850 years past.
Blade
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Re: Trinity cannot be validated via Scripture.
By: guest24 Date: January 9, 2021, 10:30 am
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=1173.msg23482#msg23482
date=1610163789]
Quote from: True Believer on Today at 10:57:34 am
"The Deity of the Holy Spirit is factual and Jesus makes it so
when he said " God is a Spirit".. where does the Father come
in???.... He calls God his father, who is, in fact the Holy
Ghost/Spirit."
In Gen 1:2.." ...............And the Spirit of God moved upon
the face of the waters."
Here we see that GOD as a whole has a Spirit. This spirit is
composed of six other spirits... It is clear from this that God
can manifest himself in different personalities (I am saying
this loosely because the Holy Spirit is not a figure as Jesus
was). In Psa 2, we can see all three of them speaking to each
other. In 1 Tim, Jesus Himself tells us GOD had become flesh
(that is if Jesus authored the Bible).
Let me answer your question to me: "Whose will was Jesus doing,
if he were in fact God in the Flesh, if not his own? because he
clearly states that he is doing the will of the one who sent
him.."
It is apparent that Jesus as a man had abdicated any Godly
powers. For to me, He expected the Jews would indeed accept Him
and the Kingdom of Heaven would be brought in. He did not know
what awaited Him as that was evident at Gethsemane garden. Mat
26:39.."And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and
prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup
pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou
wilt."[/quote] this obviously shows us that we read things
differently depending on what we want it to say, because to many
in this world, it is a picture of Jesus yielding His fleshly
will to the spiritual will of the Father, something we all
should do...iow's Jesus saying, "this is what my flesh wants, My
spirit however wants what You want. [quote]
Had he known he was GOD, all he had to do was call down his army
of angels. Yet, it seems he did not know He was GOD but rather;
as you (TB) state "He was doing the will of God, His
father"[/quote] or, maybe, He was just wiling to accept God's
will over the will of His flesh...hum...[quote]
In Mat 26:63, Caiaphas ask Jesus if He was:"that thou tell us
whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God."
in the next verse, Jesus tells Caiaphas: "........ Hereafter
shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power,
and coming in the clouds of heaven."
Here, we we Jesus knows that the Son of Man will sit at the
right hand of GOD...Yet he did not dispute Caiaphas' statement!
You see, Jesus knew that God was His father but he does not seem
to know at that time his power.[/qutoe] please prove in
scripture where Jesus didn't know His power or place in the
Kingdom? All I see so far is speculations based on a partial
understanding of scripture. [quote]
Why did Jesus cry " Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" before his next
to last breath on the Cross....could it be that He did not know
at all what was going to happen to him..[/quote]?????? That one
doesn't even hint of making sense...[quote]
The trinity is so much more that Jesus saying I am GOD! He tells
us in so many ways, yet there is a movement states Jesus is not
GOD....This is very dangerous direction to take.
One last point: In Isa 44:6, God states:" I am the first, and I
am the last; "
In Isa 48:12..God tells us : " I am the first, I also am the
last."
In Rev 1:11..Jesus (speaking to John states).." I am Alpha and
Omega, the first and the last:"
OOPS,,,, Jesus said He was what....
to be clear: Rev 1:17..Jesus said to John, when he John fell at
Jesus' feet..."Fear not; I am the first and the last:"
OOPS again.....
THEN Jesus tells us in the next verse (Rev 1:18).."I am he that
liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore,
Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."
Regardless of what most will tell you, After the first verse of
Revelation, Jesus not GOD (the father) is speaking and here in
Rev 1:17-18 [proves the speaker is Jesus) and also proves He is
the same GOD who spoke through Isaiah 850 years past.
Blade
[/quote]
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Re: Trinity cannot be validate via Scripture.
By: guest58 Date: January 9, 2021, 11:34 am
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=1173.msg23456#msg23456
date=1610047794]See, now I think these verses show the triune
God, with the word "We". Father, Son, Holy Ghost. I must admit
that I quit debating this topic and started leaning towards a
more non trinitarian view of God. This is a very deep and
enigmatic topic to say the least. Thank you for starting this
thread.
[/quote]
ImCo:
The scriptures validate nothing... Our personal interpretations
of what they mean validates our preconceptions.
The only true validation comes from the Spirit, personally, the
One who leads us into all truth. This is a personal validation
that can be shared but not proven...like all doctrine.
I have put my faith in the One GOD in 3 persons, amen. Not
because I have proof, (faith is an unproven hope, remember) but
because I have faith in the Spirit who leads me to be
Divine.
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