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       #Post#: 15884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chit Chat
   DIR By: guest58
       Date: August 6, 2020, 10:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Chaplain Mark Schmidt link ---
       >
       >
       > Any feed back, ideas or suggestions gladly taken.
       >
       > I can start this as a separate thread if you all think that
       would be better
       --- End Quote ---
       You might be interested in the FB group: Outlaw Church of West
       Texas led by Clint Overland
  HTML https://www.facebook.com/groups/1632795216952314/
       ...
       #Post#: 15885--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chat
   DIR By: guest58
       Date: August 6, 2020, 11:04 am
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       > Does that mean we are saved before we ever believe?
       --- End Quote ---
       The elect are under the promise of salvation by their election
       looooong before the salvation process is ever started in them.
       Is HIS promise good? Then the sinful elect can be counted among
       the saved and the righteous though still in thier sins...
       #Post#: 15886--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chat
   DIR By: guest58
       Date: August 6, 2020, 11:15 am
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       --- Quote from: Chaplain Mark Schmidt link ---
       >
       > Many people think they have left Chrisitian behind them.  That
       it is no longer needed or necessary.  Some even claim they are
       atheists.  But, my question is, if you look at how they were and
       how they are now, can you honestly say the were ever truly
       believers in Christianity?  Some may never had even a proper
       introduction to it.
       > This is something that I have been contemplating lately.
       >
       > What are your thoughts on this?
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree and I believe the parable of the sower exemplifies this
       point. The five foolish virgins that have no personal
       relationship with our Lord at all (He does not know them!) are
       in the wedding party after all.
       #Post#: 15909--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chat
   DIR By: guest116
       Date: August 7, 2020, 11:10 am
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       That is a very good parable for this issue at least for me.
       Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
       #Post#: 16222--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chat
   DIR By: guest116
       Date: August 13, 2020, 4:29 pm
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       A thought that just pased through my head: If you have no faith
       in yourself can never have faith in God.
       #Post#: 16382--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chat
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: August 17, 2020, 8:26 am
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       --- Quote from: Chaplain Mark Schmidt link ---
       >
       > A thought that just pased through my head: If you have no
       faith in yourself can never have faith in God.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I might argue that until you lose faith in yourself, you have no
       idea how to have faith in God.
       Such a busy day ahead but let me explain.  When we have faith in
       ourselves, we are trustingour own abilitites when we are to
       trust God for the things that we need.  In the military, they
       break you down before building you us into a unit rather than an
       individual yet the centurian was hailed in scripture as having a
       faith unlike any Christ had seen before.  He had learned how to
       stop being an individual, putting his trust in himself and
       learned how to be a unit, with trust in the commanders over him.
       Until we learn to be a body, a soldier whose commander is God,
       we are missing it.
       Speaking of missing it, maybe I missed where you were going with
       this and thus spoke out of turn.
       #Post#: 16390--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chat
   DIR By: guest116
       Date: August 17, 2020, 12:14 pm
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       Actually Lori, The thought occurred and then I got distracted
       and did not finish my thought.
       What I was getting at, if we do not have faith in ourselves as
       in faith in our own faith and belief in God, then having faith
       alone will not stand up to tempations and tests of life.  Our
       faith in our own faith must be so strong that our faith in God
       is unwavering.
       That is all the further I got into my thought process.
       Hope that helps  explain my thought better.
       #Post#: 16391--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chat
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: August 17, 2020, 2:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chaplain Mark Schmidt link ---
       >
       > Actually Lori, The thought occurred and then I got distracted
       and did not finish my thought.
       >
       > What I was getting at, if we do not have faith in ourselves as
       in faith in our own faith and belief in God, then having faith
       alone will not stand up to tempations and tests of life.  Our
       faith in our own faith must be so strong that our faith in God
       is unwavering.
       >
       > That is all the further I got into my thought process.
       >
       > Hope that helps  explain my thought better.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I looked into studying our faith and never finished. We are told
       by God that if our faith; if MY faith was that of the size of a
       mustard seed I could remove a mountain. That tells me that God
       knows we are ALL weak in faith. I believe it is the faith of
       Jesus Christ that saves me and not my own tiny miniscule portion
       of "faith".
       On the other hand, I believe and nothing will ever change that.
       Complicated is our faith.
       #Post#: 16392--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chat
   DIR By: guest116
       Date: August 17, 2020, 3:20 pm
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       I think the mustard seed is a perfect example of knowing your
       own faith and knowing your faith in God.  Yes PJ we are all
       weak, we all have succumbed to some type of tempations in our
       lives, it is what we do after and if we use it to make faith n
       God stronger that really counts.  That, as always is my opinion.
       As for studying faith, I am with you, I have not studied it,
       and not sure I will, but I did have a passing thought I
       expressed.
       #Post#: 16403--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chaplain's Chat
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: August 17, 2020, 11:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=11.msg16390#msg16390 date=1597684491]
       > Actually Lori, The thought occurred and then I got distracted
       and did not finish my thought.
       >
       > What I was getting at, if we do not have faith in ourselves as
       in faith in our own faith and belief in God, then having faith
       alone will not stand up to tempations and tests of life.  Our
       faith in our own faith must be so strong that our faith in God
       is unwavering.
       >
       > That is all the further I got into my thought process.
       >
       > Hope that helps  explain my thought better.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I looked into studying our faith and never finished. We are told
       by God that if our faith; if MY faith was that of the size of a
       mustard seed I could remove a mountain. That tells me that God
       knows we are ALL weak in faith. I believe it is the faith of
       Jesus Christ that saves me and not my own tiny miniscule portion
       of "faith".
       On the other hand, I believe and nothing will ever change that.
       Complicated is our faith.
       [/quote]
       Having Faith in Jesus is given to us in the scripture.
       "according to Scripture" we are told three times in the
       representation of His Gospel (1 Cor 15:1-4).   The more we study
       His word, the deeper our faith becomes.
       Me, I simply believe every word of the KJV Bible to the point
       that I have faith that I can prove it is His WORD. The WORD of
       an extraterrestrial, one beyond our time who took His time to
       create us, guide us through the centuries and give us a way to
       become immortal (eternal) with HIM....I look forward to that
       day.
       Therefore, every time you are reading/studying the Bible, you
       are studying your faith in Him.
       Blade
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