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#Post#: 18138--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest116 Date: September 29, 2020, 3:38 pm
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atthew was a Jew, a tax collector, one who could write in
shorthand. His gospel shows us Jesus as a Jew. Mark shows Jesus
as the suffering servant, Luke a doctor brings us Jesus as a man
and John, the Beloved John, brings us Jesus as GOD. Each Gospel
is different because of these viewpoints of each man. Therefore,
the genealogy of Matthew in chapter 1 comes from the viewpoint
from Abraham down. Mark had none and Luke brought the genealogy
from man (Adam) and John in John 1:1-2 brings us God's genealogy
from eternity past.
Mark, another little tidbit is that all of these writers had
words exclusively that appeared in their gospels. while it is a
study all it own, these prove that a higher being, Jesus was the
author. Like the seven churches in Revelation, each of these
writers were specifically picked by Jesus for a reason and we
see this come out reading their gospels through the eyes of a
Jewish Rabbi.
Blade
Love this extra information. Just adds to my research folder.
#Post#: 18139--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest8 Date: September 29, 2020, 3:45 pm
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=1027.msg18138#msg18138 date=1601411880]
atthew was a Jew, a tax collector, one who could write in
shorthand. His gospel shows us Jesus as a Jew. Mark shows Jesus
as the suffering servant, Luke a doctor brings us Jesus as a man
and John, the Beloved John, brings us Jesus as GOD. Each Gospel
is different because of these viewpoints of each man. Therefore,
the genealogy of Matthew in chapter 1 comes from the viewpoint
from Abraham down. Mark had none and Luke brought the genealogy
from man (Adam) and John in John 1:1-2 brings us God's genealogy
from eternity past.
Mark, another little tidbit is that all of these writers had
words exclusively that appeared in their gospels. while it is a
study all it own, these prove that a higher being, Jesus was the
author. Like the seven churches in Revelation, each of these
writers were specifically picked by Jesus for a reason and we
see this come out reading their gospels through the eyes of a
Jewish Rabbi.
Blade
[/quote]
Love this extra information. Just adds to my research folder.
[/quote]
thank you for the kind words.
Blade
#Post#: 18917--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest116 Date: October 15, 2020, 10:58 pm
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Here is a more complete, but still a draft of Matthew 10:1
10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he
gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and
to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
Jesus call his twelve disciples to him; this strikes me as
initial answer to a prayer for the lord to send workers. I am
not sure if it was to send him workers or just generally. If
you go back to Matthew 9:38 it seems more that he is asking the
Lord to send his disciples out into the harvest and the harvest
being the masses of people coming to his teachings. This also
made me reflect on the fact he had twelve disciples and there
were also twelve tribes of Israel, one disciple per tribe. I am
thinking the plan was each was picked for a specific tribe.
Very symbolic of the continuity of God’s plan for salvation.
The second part of this simple sentence is where he tells them
what he is empowering them to do in God’s name and for God.
This of course being one of these twelve that had followed Jesus
and you are now getting told what gifts will be theirs; to help
them teach and spread the words. My personal thought on this is
they just found out they have moved from mere disciples to his
Apostles.
Amazing how this one sentence how so much power to it.
Is Matthew 10:1 have any parallels? Yes, the basic same
opening line can be found in Mark and Luke. Mark 6:7 “And he
called the twelve and began to send them out two by two, and
gave them authority over the unclean spirits.” (ESV) In Luke
9:1 The bible states
“And he called the twelve together and gave them power and
authority over all demons and to cure diseases.” (ESV) Compare
this to Matthew 10:1 that states: “And he called to him his
twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits,
to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every
affliction.” (ESV)
You will even find reference to this open in the Gospel of the
Ebionites 1, and a apocryphal gospel. So as you can see, while
this is just a simple sentence to the start of chapter ten of
Matthew. It is a opening sentence to what is a very important
discourse of Jesus that can be found in part of in whole in
multiple books of the Bible and in the Apocrypha. The only line
full readable in the sources I have is: “'There was a certain
man named Jesus, and he was about thirty years old, who chose
us.”
He has chosen 12 and empowered them His next task is to give us
the lineage, much like in Genesis of his twelve chosen. This
will be looked at next !0:2 to 10:4.
Feel free to provide insight, thoughts corrections and addition.
Just be gentle :-)
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Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest116 Date: October 22, 2020, 6:50 pm
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We move now into 10:2-4 in Matthew as we continue examining the
second discourse in Matthew
Jesus has chosen 12 and has empowered them. Jesus’ next task is
to give us the names of the twelve and, in some cases, a slight
lineage, much like in Genesis, but of his twelve chosen. This
will be looked at next: 10:2 to 10:4. Keep in mind that 10:1 is
directly associated with 10:2-4. Most commentaries review all
these four statements together. I have chosen to break it into
two parts so I can concentrate more review on this part of it.
More to follow
#Post#: 21284--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest116 Date: November 30, 2020, 7:18 pm
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So much to digest in this discourse as the others, I have slowed
down and rereading and rethinking the direction I wish to go. I
have not abandon this, just trying to put more thought into it.
#Post#: 26828--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest116 Date: March 13, 2021, 8:26 pm
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Just thought I would post an update. I am still writing on this
but it is way too rough to even put the introduction online yet
for anyone to read and give feedback. Soon I hope and pray.
#Post#: 28204--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest116 Date: April 7, 2021, 9:36 pm
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Another update here. Changing direction a little bit. The more
I dig through all the commentaries and the writings on the Five
Major Discourses, I realize, that the best approach is as a
restatement.
Will make the flow make more sense.
#Post#: 28205--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest8 Date: April 7, 2021, 11:33 pm
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=1027.msg28204#msg28204 date=1617849410]
Another update here. Changing direction a little bit. The more
I dig through all the commentaries and the writings on the Five
Major Discourses, I realize, that the best approach is as a
restatement.
Will make the flow make more sense.
[/quote]
Mark, It will be interesting to see what you come up with. Rem,
One Author for all books.
Blade
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Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest116 Date: May 3, 2021, 7:01 pm
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I have realized as I write and re-write, this is and has to be a
labor of love to get it done. As I read more, and scribble
notes and thoughts more and more, the more I realize that while
so much has been said in the last 300 years on these discourses,
there is so much that can be said and looked at differently
through the prism of the moment verse the mirror of time past.
I have not given up but I have started over repeatedly and
changed direction, I am still happier with a restatement of the
prior writings though. This lends itself to being more
updateable as time passes.
#Post#: 28742--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Five Discourses of Jesus
By: guest8 Date: May 3, 2021, 8:28 pm
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=1027.msg28739#msg28739 date=1620086474]
I have realized as I write and re-write, this is and has to be a
labor of love to get it done. As I read more, and scribble
notes and thoughts more and more, the more I realize that while
so much has been said in the last 300 years on these discourses,
there is so much that can be said and looked at differently
through the prism of the moment verse the mirror of time past.
I have not given up but I have started over repeatedly and
changed direction, I am still happier with a restatement of the
prior writings though. This lends itself to being more
updateable as time passes.
[/quote]
every good writer does this Mark and it seems you have all the
symptoms.
Blade
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