Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!4.24.21.218.MISMATCH!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!lon-transit.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!lon-spool.news.telstra.net!203.14.2.27.MISMATCH!reader.news.telstra.net!not-for-mail From: davider@votenader.org Message-ID: Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.med.occupational,sci.answers,sci.engr.mech Subject: Statement on Spam and VoteNader.org Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2004 18:58:57 GMT Approved: davider@votenader.org Organization: Nader for President 2004 - P.O. Box 18002, Washington, DC 20036 - (202) 265-4000 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-69-48-73-244.roc.choiceone.net User-Agent: KNode/0.4 Lines: 112 NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.138.5.133 X-Trace: 1081461094 lon-reader.news.telstra.net 56489 144.138.5.133 Xref: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu sci.physics.relativity:402604 sci.med.occupational:9491 sci.answers:15929 sci.engr.mech:77358 Spam from VoteNader.org? (Or naderexplore04.org) You may have received spam email recently that appears to come from our campaign, or be about our campaign -- perhaps the "From" and or "Reply-to" addresses look like they are coming from VoteNader.org. Or perhaps you have received a message that appears to come from an individual (if the address is real, the real owner probably did not send this email either) with suppressed recipients. Or maybe you received an email that appeared to come from yourself promoting our site. These messages are NOT from Nader for President 2004, and these email tactics are NOT condoned by our campaign in any way. UPDATE: Some of the latest forged emails have been made to appear to be coming from naderexplore04.org. Again, we are not responsible for this unfortunate abuse of email, and there is little in the technical sense that we can do to prevent this as it has nothing to do with our actual infrastructure. We are collecting information. NOTE: The emails with malicious code (viruses, worms, etc.) often have attachments. Our campaign will NEVER send attachments in our announcement emails to you. Please be sure that you have anti-virus software and have the latest updates available for your anti-virus software. Our hosting service has alerted us to say that Nader for President 2004 appears to be the target of what is called a "Joe Job." Such an event is where a spammer forges email to make it appear to have come from some other domain (such as ours -- or yourself). This is hard to prevent on our end and part of the insecure nature of the email protocol in general. Members of our actual email list must request to receive email from us (either through Ralph's signup sheets or subscribing during our exploratory phase, or now on our campaign site). When one signs up for email they must reply to a confirmation message before they receive our list announcements. Our public announcement emails come from "campaign@votenader.org," contain a "Paid for by Nader for President 2004" statement at the bottom, and have "updates@lists.votenader.org" in the "To:" header. Unfortunately, some of these indicators can be forged as well. Most of the Spam that we have received complaints about appear to be forged from email addresses not associated with votenader.org (often forged to appear to be coming from government email addresses), and have our website code embedded in the body of the email with hidden tags that contain random words that work to subvert anti-spam software. If you are on our lists, you can ALWAYS unsubscribe at ANY time by following the instructions included at the end of our announcements. You can also use our unsubscribe page using the email address you signed up with. If you are receiving this SPAM, we extend our apologies. We will pursue the spammers to the full extent of the law. For more information, please review these resources: How Do I Determine the Source of an Email? http://www.aota.net/Email_Spam_Prevention_and_Mgmt/emailsource.php4 Why Does This Spam Look Like I Sent It? http://www.aota.net/Email_Spam_Prevention_and_Mgmt/spamfrom.php4 Coping with a Joe Job http://www.sitepoint.com/article/sabotage-coping-joe-job/2 Please contact abuse@votenader.org with any questions. We have received many samples of the spam and are working to identify the source, if possible. Volunteer -------------- http://www.votenader.org/get_involved/index.php Ballot Access ---------- http://www.votenader.org/ballot_access/index.php Register to Vote ------- http://www.rockthevote.com/rtv_register.php Contribute ------------- http://www.votenader.org/contribute/index.php Contact Us ------------- http://www.votenader.org/contact/index.php -- ordinary people like to relate to information on personal experience and knowledge, and people think mostly about indirect meanings than the direct ones. You the news you read and hear it is not for ordinary people, for ordinary people it is just something that is used to control their minds. As they never question the information and events in unbiased way. Now let us the Iraq?s documents to UN were not released to anyone but a few countries, one must ask how can CNN place extracts from the report on the site ???? :) It is very amazing that Iraq has to stay in the news for no reason, can anyone tell me why do we have to know if inspector is visting this place or that. But the fact is, it is all about mind control, these things don?t have to be in the news, in every area, some active Muslim may be referred as Saddam, BinLaden, Iraq, Iran and other names like that (to speak indirectly) and thus by using these things indirectly ordinary people?s behaviour can be modified. Like we will bomb Saddam, we will kill you the one who is discussed indirectly as Saddam or Iraq etc. I personally think this wage of those who control information and events on ordinary should be taken to court and something must be done about it otherwise a lot of people are going to suffer. Directly and in real world sense Saddam is a dictator but change in Iraq must come from inside, but now when people are talking indirectly God knows which Saddam they are talking about, because everyone knows Saddam is not a good man. Yet the issue is not Iraq the real issue will stay in background as people have to think about something and their attention can be diverted unlike mine, the real issue is issue of Palestine and systematic inhuman destructio .