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16:38:10 <saper> crc: I am here as well
16:38:53 <crc> Hi saper
16:39:25 <saper> one more 
16:39:37 <crc> It's definitely iOS 7. I just uploaded a third build (.17) that should fix many of the rendering issues
16:40:22 <saper> with "evaluate" functions in the editor got added to the question mark dictionary again, I understand that old words are there as in forth, but this is confusing
16:41:25 <crc> I'm going to need to do a lot of work on the UI.
16:41:32 <saper> "ok" prompt window when it gets too long sometimes last "ok" prompt is behind the buttons
16:41:38 <saper> not only UI, but UX as well :)
16:41:57 <saper> should ok prompt be editable as well? :)
16:42:06 <crc> .17 should fix the height of the output area
16:42:25 <crc> Not yet. I haven't found a way to do proper terminal emulation on iOS yet.
16:43:05 <saper> ah ok so the documentation referring to "parsing after space" refers to retro on something else (I did play a bit w/retro on my FreeBSD)
16:43:29 <saper> if I may suggest good UI, pythonista has one
16:43:51 <saper> installing .17
16:44:14 <saper> now the bottom bar is between the editor and ok prompt
16:44:24 <saper> icons are small
16:44:34 <saper> and fit the bottom bar \o/
16:45:41 <crc> Progress :)
16:46:24 <saper> wow "4 factorial" put "24" now in the stack viw
16:46:27 <crc> I have Pythonista installed; will look for things I can adapt
16:46:42 <saper> can I have the keyboard open and not let the output window scroll under the keyboard?
16:47:00 <saper> maybe we can port retro to pythonista :)
16:47:39 <crc> There is a python version of the VM
16:48:06 <saper> yes there is
16:48:07 <crc> I could do that
16:48:22 <saper> also clearing stack from the stack view would be good
16:48:38 <saper> but ios ui is not written in retro itself?
16:49:12 <crc> No, the UI is all objective c and storyboards
16:49:45 <crc> Clearing the stack should be easy enough to add
16:50:02 <saper> maybe tapping on the item, I don't know
16:50:07 <saper> it currently highlights
16:50:30 <saper> and maybe the buttons should be at the top not to interfere with the keyboard 
16:52:19 <crc> I can do that too
16:53:22 <saper> regarding tapping ideas: I think plan 9 has "execute in place" function of the window system - you mark and press one of the mouse buttons (tap) and executes
16:53:32 <saper> not sure if you know plan9 and its wm
16:53:53 <saper> but they have a very dumb terminal (like our ok prompt) and the rest is done with the window manager
16:54:11 <saper> so no command history in the terminal because you can scroll up and mark and re-execute from there
16:54:44 <saper> maybe in that way there is no need to have a "tty"
16:55:33 <saper> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/8%C2%BD/8%C2%BD.html I think this is the doc
16:56:00 <crc> Thanks
16:56:22 <saper> just as an inspiration source maybe
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