00:00:00 --- log: started retro/13.03.09 00:06:07 --- join: impomatic (~digital_w@158.195.125.91.dyn.plus.net) joined #retro 02:13:03 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #retro 06:33:08 --- join: kbmaniac (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 06:43:02 android updates submitted to the store. should appear within 24 hours. 06:56:00 --- quit: kbmaniac (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) 07:01:08 --- join: kbmaniac (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 07:01:40 --- quit: kbmaniac (Client Quit) 07:02:22 --- join: kbmaniac (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 07:02:42 --- quit: kbmaniac (Client Quit) 07:04:25 impomatic: sounds like a big project 07:05:06 --- join: kbmaniac (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 07:09:22 --- quit: kbmaniac (Client Quit) 07:10:52 --- quit: erider (Remote host closed the connection) 07:11:11 --- join: kbmaniac (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 07:19:30 --- quit: kbmaniac (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) 07:19:49 --- join: kbmaniac (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 07:45:34 Is retroforth.org down for anyone else? 08:08:22 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 08:11:10 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 08:13:47 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08:29:43 --- quit: kbmaniac (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) 08:33:25 --- join: goingretro2 (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 08:34:04 --- quit: goingretro2 (Client Quit) 08:34:25 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 08:35:04 --- quit: goingretro (Client Quit) 08:35:25 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 08:39:19 impomatic: it's working for me. 08:43:57 --- quit: goingretro (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) 08:44:21 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 08:45:27 --- quit: goingretro (Client Quit) 08:46:25 --- join: goingretro (~kbmaniac@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 08:46:51 --- quit: goingretro (Client Quit) 08:47:40 --- join: goingretro (~goingretr@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 08:47:44 --- quit: goingretro (Client Quit) 08:48:45 --- join: goingretro (~goingretr@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 08:50:51 crcx: thanks, must be something to do with my connection. Will try again later 08:51:11 --- quit: goingretro (Client Quit) 08:52:11 --- join: goingretro (~goingretr@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 08:53:47 --- quit: goingretro (Client Quit) 09:12:42 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09:17:48 --- join: 17WAA972R (Midway@128.61.104.49) joined #retro 09:18:01 --- part: 17WAA972R left #retro 09:28:24 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 09:45:05 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 09:47:25 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09:51:22 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 09:52:13 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09:57:13 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 09:59:06 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 10:11:42 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 10:13:11 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 10:29:08 --- join: Mat2 (~claude@91-65-144-133-dynip.superkabel.de) joined #retro 10:29:19 hi @ all 12:03:06 --- join: goingretro (~goingretr@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 12:55:57 --- quit: goingretro (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) 14:07:30 --- join: goingretro (~goingretr@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 14:31:24 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 14:33:54 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14:58:46 --- quit: goingretro (Remote host closed the connection) 15:00:18 --- join: goingretro (~goingretr@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 15:00:43 --- quit: goingretro (Client Quit) 15:01:58 --- join: goingretro (~goingretr@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 15:02:29 --- quit: goingretro (Client Quit) 15:03:53 --- join: goingretro (~goingretr@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 15:04:16 --- quit: goingretro (Client Quit) 15:06:40 --- join: goingretro (~goingretr@host86-155-215-196.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #retro 15:11:56 hello! 15:12:49 crcx: the new retro for android works well on nexus 7. 15:13:23 could use a little more screen space :) 16:53:08 --- join: Jise (~jose@147.Red-83-33-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined #retro 16:58:27 Tangent: I have only a cheap Samsung phone with a qvga to test on currently. I hope to get a better device later this year. 17:08:23 i might try to make a native android port before too long, using the java or pascal versions. 17:09:03 i /kind/ of want to try building something up from dalvik instructions but i don't know enough about it yet. 17:17:53 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 17:20:13 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17:20:47 --- quit: Jise (Quit: BitchX-1.2-final -- just do it.) 17:37:27 tangentstorm: As I know, the internals of Dalvik are poorly documentated. However, there exist a presentation about its design somewhere in the net 17:39:27 look here: http://source.android.com/tech/dalvik/ 17:43:00 --- quit: tangentstorm (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17:44:01 --- quit: Mat2 (Quit: Verlassend) 17:57:20 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #retro 18:08:13 --- join: Mat2 (~claude@91-65-144-133-dynip.superkabel.de) joined #retro 18:09:50 and here are the pdf files I mean: http://de.slideshare.net/yeg239/android-internals-05-dalvik-vm-rev11 18:12:08 (look at the links at end of presentation) 18:12:35 oh nice 18:12:58 as written, there is not much precice docmumetation 18:13:05 ^documentation 18:16:04 there are some video talks from google's i/o conference too 18:16:12 also the source :) 18:18:20 yes of course but some important details of these dex binary-format needs investigation for example and changed are not even documentated at all as I know 18:18:29 ^changes 18:19:28 so you will probably end up study the source-code for each recent andoid version of use 18:28:00 fun ;) 18:30:38 ok, the compiler is working :) 18:33:12 I should write some documentation about the language 18:35:54 --- quit: tangentstorm (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18:36:13 --- nick: Mat2 -> Mat2-sleep 18:37:20 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:46:52 --- join: tangentstorm (~michal@108-218-151-22.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined #retro 20:24:06 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 21:44:55 --- join: karswell` (~user@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #retro 21:47:13 --- quit: karswell (Remote host closed the connection) 21:55:23 --- join: kumool (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 21:57:33 --- quit: kumul (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22:20:15 --- join: kumul (~mool@c-76-26-237-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #retro 22:22:37 --- quit: kumool (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22:35:42 --- quit: kumul (Quit: Leaving) 23:16:06 --- quit: goingretro (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:54:44 --- nick: Mat2-sleep -> Mat2 23:54:55 --- quit: Mat2 (Quit: Verlassend) 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/13.03.09