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04:10:33 <erider> morning 
04:13:07 <impomatic> Hi erider :-)
04:13:45 <erider> hi impomatic 
04:13:49 <erider> how have you been 
04:14:43 <impomatic> Fine thanks. And you?
04:17:23 <erider> pretty good 
04:19:22 <impomatic> Hmmm... no 2013 #retro IRC logs yet...
04:21:47 <erider> weird 
04:51:55 <tangentstorm> dun dun dun
04:52:09 <tangentstorm> happy new year, impomatic 
04:52:17 <erider> hi tangentstorm 
04:52:30 <tangentstorm> hey erider. sorry again for disappearing last night. did you figure anything out?
04:53:28 <erider> its dirty but yeah I got something, I am trying to make something a little cleaner now 
04:54:19 <erider> I keep getting caught on tcl's weird scope for commands 
04:56:07 <tangentstorm> that 'upvar' thing is wacky :)
04:56:47 <impomatic> Hi Tangentstorm :-)
04:56:57 <erider> yeah I have to look a the manpages for the stuff I don't know 
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06:53:21 <crc> Impomatic: 2013 logs will be visible in a couple of days
06:53:40 <impomatic> Thanks crc :-)
07:02:16 <erider> hi crc 
07:07:08 <crc> Hi erider
07:10:17 <erider> crc did you get the code off pastebin 
07:12:06 <crc> I did a couple of nights ago
07:18:00 <erider> did you get the newest version that doesn't do anything but looks nice :-( 
08:10:16 <erider> tangentstorm: ok I think I have the protocol ready 
08:12:16 <tangentstorm> :)
08:13:21 <tangentstorm> do you want to test it on the server?
08:17:24 <erider> lets do it 
08:21:10 <erider> tangentstorm: not too sure about the dump but I guess the py script is a wrap and is going to catch stdout 
08:28:29 <erider> tangentstorm: are you going to run this thing 
08:31:22 <tangentstorm> hey! sorry. on my way now.
08:31:30 <erider> all the wrestling and I only needed upvar #0 
08:32:16 <tangentstorm> :)
08:34:12 <tangentstorm> hmm. it's not going to like that.
08:34:13 <erider> that is the state of memory 
08:34:45 <erider> not sure how to implement the dumpstate then 
08:34:57 <tangentstorm> <thinking>
08:35:24 <tangentstorm> i'm making the assumption that the image size is constant based on the size of the image you load
08:35:24 <erider> in the py script it looks like stdout of the variables 
08:35:33 <erider> yes 
08:35:50 <tangentstorm> but i suppose that isn't a requirement in ngaro.
08:35:55 <erider> well yes in the old version 
08:36:42 <tangentstorm> unless crc says otherwise, i'd say the tests can safely ignore that
08:37:21 <tangentstorm> so... i'll just hack the test runner to truncate that array to the expected size
08:39:05 <erider> the py script doesn't grab stdout from the vm 
08:44:19 <tangentstorm> ?
08:44:28 <tangentstorm> what do you mean?
08:45:08 <erider> so dumpstate command dumps the list of stack, address and memory to the stdout 
08:45:24 <tangentstorm> yeah
08:45:30 <erider> memory list has 1000000 elements 
08:45:35 <tangentstorm> right
08:46:02 <tangentstorm> that's why it's going slow, but i thought the change i just made would make it ignore the changes
08:46:06 <tangentstorm> the size difference i mean
08:46:23 <tangentstorm> hmm
08:46:26 <tangentstorm> but
08:46:29 <erider> so is the ngarotest take the stdout from dumpstate is testing it 
08:46:34 <tangentstorm> yes
08:46:53 <tangentstorm> the problem is that it expects the values to be at the front
08:46:59 <erider> and testing it... 
08:47:19 <tangentstorm> yeah, see the error code there?
08:47:33 <erider> si 
08:47:35 <erider> yes 
08:47:38 <tangentstorm> the assertionerror about in the middle of the screen
08:47:57 <tangentstorm> it's expecting a 2 cell vm [1,2] and getting a big long one.
08:48:15 <tangentstorm> i didn't truncate it apparently, so that's a mistake i just made
08:48:49 <tangentstorm> but: even though your array is padded with zeros, the first two cells should still be 1,2
08:48:53 <tangentstorm> and they're not 
08:49:12 <tangentstorm> so it's not dumping correctly, or it's not writing to ram correctly
08:49:35 <erider> ok 
08:51:42 <tangentstorm> i mis-spoke. this one isn't testing the vm array but the stacks.
08:52:04 <tangentstorm> i don't think i can fix that from the tests
08:52:08 <erider> does it need to be an string or a list 
08:52:23 <erider> a string
08:52:30 <tangentstorm> you have the right format. it's parsing your output
08:53:04 <tangentstorm> i can't trim your output for the stacks like i did with the ram though
08:53:39 <tangentstorm> because there's no way to tell extra zeros on the top of the stack from the padding
08:54:36 <erider> tangentstorm: I can try to make the protocol to the new version where the stack is dynamic 
08:55:02 <tangentstorm> erider: okay. looks like you just need to cut it off at $sp
08:57:58 <tangentstorm> http://tmml.sourceforge.net/doc/tcl/lrange.html maybe?
08:59:40 <erider> what do I need to trim
09:04:31 <erider> you need to pass at least --image <and the image> 
09:08:39 <tangentstorm> yeah, the test runner's doing it 
09:09:03 <tangentstorm> the IOW one passes, (in/out/write)
09:09:06 <tangentstorm> wait
09:09:12 <tangentstorm> i mean (in/out/wait)
09:09:31 <tangentstorm> but that's weird, so it might be a bad test :)
09:10:04 <tangentstorm> it looks like the stack is coming up as all zeros
09:10:59 <tangentstorm> hmm.
09:11:01 <erider> that is weird 
09:11:17 <tangentstorm> so somehow that range thing is giving us [0] every time
09:11:31 <tangentstorm> is the stack actually a list?
09:11:47 <erider> yest 
09:11:48 <tangentstorm> i don't understand the list vs string thing in tcl
09:11:50 <erider> yes 
09:11:51 <tangentstorm> ok
09:15:58 <erider> you can use "end" as index 
09:16:39 <tangentstorm> instead of sp?
09:16:40 <erider> let in python foo[-1] == [lindex $foo end]
09:17:18 <tangentstorm> that should work in retro.tcl but it's not going to work in retro_old, is it?
09:17:37 <tangentstorm> i don't know how to do subtraction though ;D
09:18:36 <tangentstorm> interesting language :)
09:20:15 <erider> yeah
09:22:18 <tangentstorm> we could speed this up considerably by truncating the ram dump on the tcl side
09:25:54 <tangentstorm> retro_old.tcl is showing Retro but not the ok
09:26:26 <tangentstorm> i suspect it actually is a problem with the stack handling in the vm
09:27:03 <tangentstorm> was it showing the "ok" before?
09:28:36 <erider> yes
09:28:39 <tangentstorm> i don't see anything in the diff that would have broken it there
09:28:46 <erider> the old was not the nex 
09:28:48 <erider> new 
09:29:04 <tangentstorm> could be a tcl8.4 vs 8.5 issue?
09:30:12 <tangentstorm> when i ran stash, it reverted to the code you initially uploaded last night
09:30:43 <tangentstorm> you may have to try this on your machine or else i need to compile and install the newer tcl
09:31:38 <erider> I have no clue why the new version doesn't run 
09:32:00 <tangentstorm> well, the old one doesn't run either on this machine :)
09:32:37 <erider> true but at least I get some errors to look for 
09:32:59 <tangentstorm> i mean the "ok" prompt not coming up
09:34:33 <tangentstorm> i have no ideas here.
09:35:03 <tangentstorm> do you want me to push the changes to github so you can download them locally?
09:35:44 <erider> yes 
09:35:49 <tangentstorm> ok
09:36:10 <erider> thanks 
09:38:23 <erider> tangentstorm: I will have crc take a look as well, the more the merrier 
09:41:44 <erider> The code I would like to test is the new version 
09:41:48 <tangentstorm> i don't know why i'm doing this all carefully... the learnprogramming git repo is going to get wiped out next time i sync
09:42:01 <tangentstorm> i'll just push all of it 
09:46:24 <tangentstorm> argh.. pain in the butt to upload to that repo
09:46:43 <tangentstorm> i need to make a fake user or something for this account
09:53:07 <erider> tangentstorm: I am add the protocol to the new version 
09:53:57 <tangentstorm> ok
09:54:23 <tangentstorm> i'm going to go create a fake lpmc-pair user at github so i can do push this
09:54:51 <erider> did you push it 
09:55:12 <tangentstorm> no i'm having all kinds of permission problems
09:55:27 <tangentstorm> oh wait hang on. that's why it's under the web
09:55:31 <tangentstorm> the web is world readable
09:55:31 <erider> oh 
09:55:36 <tangentstorm> the web dir. one sec.
10:00:41 <tangentstorm> grr... it was giving me an error but it actually did go through to github already https://github.com/LearnProgramming/retro-language/commits/tcl
10:00:46 <erider> something is off 
10:03:16 <tangentstorm> ?
10:03:22 <erider> fatal: https://github.com/LearnProgramming/retro-language/commits/tcl/info/refs not found: did you run git update-serfatal: https://github.com/LearnProgramming/retro-language/commits/tcl/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?ver-info on the server?
10:03:51 <tangentstorm> maybe it didn't go through
10:04:49 <erider> something is off with the ngaro 
10:05:03 <erider> I am going to try to write it 
10:05:03 <tangentstorm> wait.. the link i gave was a web page, not a git link. try : git://github.com/LearnProgramming/retro-language.git
10:05:14 <erider> rewrite it 
10:05:39 <tangentstorm> git clone that, then git checkout tcl
10:06:34 <tangentstorm> afk
10:07:07 <erider> ok that is good 
10:07:53 <erider> me too (afk) 
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18:47:30 <erider> good night all 
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