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10:59:17 <Mat2> hi @ all !
11:02:04 <impomatic> Hi :-)
11:03:51 <Mat2> hi impomatic !
11:06:08 <Mat2> working on some threading tests in Ada
11:07:18 <impomatic> It's a long time since I've played with Ada!
11:09:44 <Mat2> the language has all I need for vm design, process and thread support, vector and array processing, readable syntax, seperate compilation and a good compiler
11:10:20 <Mat2> + SDL wrapper
11:10:59 <Mat2> next prefered choice would be assembler
11:15:39 <Mat2> ok, the language has only a slightly less diverse syntax than PL/1 ;)
13:18:25 <Mat2> ciao
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13:58:21 <dsar> any oberon coder?
13:58:23 <dsar> :-)
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14:42:11 <harrison> very much so, i would say
14:42:20 <harrison> how oberon did you have in mind?
14:42:39 <harrison> dsar?
14:53:07 <dsar> harrison, I'm using XDS Compiler
15:02:00 <harrison> what os
15:02:18 <harrison> question mark
15:04:39 <harrison> have you looked at aos?
15:07:35 <harrison> it is active oberon, not oberon-2
15:08:16 <harrison> if you tell me dsar what os you use i will direct your attention further
15:11:47 <dsar> ehehe I already know active oberon, but I still prefer the simplicity of oberon-2 :-)
15:12:16 <dsar> by the way I'm using win7 64
15:20:47 <harrison> in that case i withdraw my previous chat and beg pardon
15:20:57 <harrison> i cqn do nothing for you
15:29:37 <dsar> do you know if there is an oberon-07 implementation?
15:30:21 <dsar> (also for aos)
15:35:42 <harrison> Oberon-07, defined by Niklaus Wirth in 2007 and revised in 2011, is based on the original version of Oberon rather than Oberon-2. The main changes are: explicit numeric conversion functions (e.g. FLOOR and FLT) must be used, the LOOP and EXIT statements have been eliminated, WHILE statements have been extended, RETURN statements can only be connected to the end of a function, imported variables and structured value parameters are read-only and
15:35:42 <harrison>  arrays can be assigned without using COPY.
15:36:03 <harrison> Wow. LOOP and EXIT have been eliminated
15:36:35 <harrison> when would someone ever use either one? well, that's probably why they were eliminated
15:36:48 <harrison> I have never used them
15:37:28 <harrison> i discovered a new active oberon keyword this year
15:38:28 <harrison> it was snuck in in 2007 
15:38:33 <harrison> GETPROCEDURE
15:38:40 <harrison> very useful too
15:39:45 <harrison> PROCEDURE VoxelFromName*(modname: Name): Voxel;
15:39:45 <harrison> 	VAR voxel: Voxel;  fackery: VoxelFackery;
15:39:45 <harrison> 	BEGIN
15:39:45 <harrison> 		IF modname[0]='N' THEN
15:39:45 <harrison> 			GETPROCEDURE(modname, "thisvox", fackery );
15:39:47 <harrison> 			IF (fackery # NIL) THEN  
15:39:49 <harrison> 				voxel := fackery();
15:39:52 <harrison> 				IF (voxel#NIL) THEN
15:39:54 <harrison> 					 voxel.code:=modname
15:39:56 <harrison> 				END
15:39:58 <harrison> 			END
15:40:00 <harrison> 		ELSE
15:40:03 <harrison> 			(* Out.String(modname) *)
15:40:05 <harrison> 		END;
15:40:07 <harrison> 		IF voxel=NIL THEN voxel:=EMPTY END;
15:40:09 <harrison> 		RETURN voxel; (* this may return EMPTY which is what we want *)
15:40:11 <harrison> END VoxelFromName;
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