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07:37:48 <sabren> I'm making a new programming language on the ngaro vm for a game jam that starts in 32 hours. You guys are invited. http://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/xka2w/help_weve_32h_to_create_a_programming_language/
07:38:05 <sabren> (also a new implementation of the vm in freepascal)
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10:38:05 <crc> sabren: it's been too long since I used any varient of pascal, but I'll try to answer any questions as quickly as possible
10:39:54 <sabren> @crc: thanks! :) pascal won't be the problem, but i'll probably need some help understanding how do things on the vm 
10:48:15 <crc> (incidentally, I would be very interested in a pascal implementation of the VM; I used to like Pascal back when I wrote Windows apps)
10:49:13 <sabren> i'll be happy to contribute it to the project... i'm probably going to follow your license scheme
10:50:15 <sabren> if i recal, fpc ships with sdl as part of the std lib, so i'm starting there
10:50:41 <sabren> i really want to do an assembly implementation that uses the SSE registers for the stack but I don't have time right now :)
10:52:40 <sabren> i'm about to write a hand-coded binary with a hex editor to draw a pixel... i'm hoping to just name it retroImage and run it against one of the existing implementations. Wish me luck. :)
12:41:22 <crc> any luck?
13:24:34 <sabren> not yet... i have a pixel now though.. where did the see word go? i've been using the chrome plugin.. i see now that's at v11.0
13:27:47 <crc> see is now in the autopsy application:  include examples/autopsy.rx
13:28:09 <crc> http://rx-core.org/demo would be more up to date than the chrome app/extension
13:29:19 <sabren> thanks!
14:58:38 <sabren> : redcircle 4 1 6 out ( red: send 1 to port 6 ) 250 250 20 7 6 out ( circle: send 7 to port 6 ) ;   ( totally expect this to produce a red circle, but it doesn't... )
15:13:34 <crc> 1) you need to add wait after each out
15:14:43 <crc> hmm, solid circles work, but not hollow ones
15:15:24 <crc> ahh, they don't show up well against black background
15:17:36 <crc> : backdrop 0 0 ^canvas'dimensions ^canvas'solid ^canvas'white ^canvas'box ;
15:17:36 <crc> : redcircle backdrop 4 1 6 out wait 250 250 20 7 6 out wait ;
15:22:26 <sabren> that could definitely be it :).. trying
15:25:07 <sabren> that did the trick! :)
15:29:44 <crc> good
15:30:04 <crc> I'll look into drawing on the black default backdrop
16:00:00 <sabren> the main problem was the wait i think... i'm going to make an sdl canvas, i'm just testing that my code is correct
16:00:08 <sabren> so now i'm hand 
16:01:51 <sabren> er hand-coding the numbers in retroImage.js... i can see it's pushing and popping and i set up an infinite loop.... it's taking the messages i send with out off the stack, but not the parameters
16:02:39 <sabren> https://gist.github.com/d9a7f2d0a8e92f0c531a
16:03:15 <sabren> i'm thinking the out primitive isn't working exactly like the threaded code "out"
16:05:53 <sabren> hrm... no... handleDevices() is stalling because ports[0] isn't 0... it's my own bug
16:59:24 <sabren> @crc: is the javascript implementation the only one with a canvas?
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17:09:28 <erider> hi all 
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17:12:10 <sabren> hello
17:16:54 <erider> hi sabren 
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18:04:44 <crc> sabren: vm/experimental/sdl has canvas support too
18:06:47 <sabren> @crc ... thanks, yeah.. i found it and dug through the code..will probably use it as a guide for the pascal one
18:11:55 <sabren> I gave up on getting js vm to like my code. Everything seems to work except the wait instruction never toggles the ports[ 0 ] flag. But it's cool. I got a good handle on the design from all my debugging. :) Am moving on to pascal.
18:14:37 <crc> ok
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