00:00:00 --- log: started retro/10.11.20 01:37:05 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 01:44:47 --- quit: ncv (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:01:15 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:01:15 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:01:44 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:01:44 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:02:13 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:02:13 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:02:42 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:02:42 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:03:11 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:03:11 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:03:39 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:03:40 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:04:09 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:04:10 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:04:38 --- join: ncv (~neceve@89.123.2.89) joined #retro 02:04:38 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:05:03 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:05:04 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:05:31 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:05:32 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:06:00 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:06:01 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:06:26 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:06:26 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:06:51 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:06:51 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:07:16 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:07:16 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:07:45 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:07:45 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:08:11 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:08:12 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:08:36 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:08:37 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:09:06 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:09:06 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:09:33 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:09:33 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:09:58 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:09:59 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:10:24 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:10:24 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:10:51 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:10:51 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:11:19 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:11:19 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:11:44 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:11:44 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:12:10 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:12:10 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:13:21 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:13:21 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:13:46 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:13:46 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:14:11 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:14:11 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:14:36 --- join: ncv (~neceve@79.114.105.154) joined #retro 02:14:37 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:15:01 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:15:01 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:15:28 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:15:28 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:15:54 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:15:55 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:16:19 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:16:19 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:16:44 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:16:44 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:17:09 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:17:10 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:17:34 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:17:34 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:17:59 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:17:59 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:18:24 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:18:24 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:18:49 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:18:49 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:19:14 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 02:19:14 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 02:19:39 --- join: ncv (~neceve@79.114.105.154) joined #retro 02:19:40 --- quit: ncv (Changing host) 02:19:41 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 05:33:34 --- quit: oPless (Quit: Leaving.) 06:01:35 --- join: oPless (~oPless@cpc14-cmbg15-2-0-cust142.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #retro 06:08:53 --- quit: oPless (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06:11:09 --- join: oPless (~oPless@cpc14-cmbg15-2-0-cust142.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #retro 09:15:12 --- quit: ncv (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09:29:31 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 09:29:32 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 09:30:00 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:03:30 --- quit: ncv (Read error: Operation timed out) 10:20:47 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:20:47 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:21:17 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:21:17 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:21:47 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:21:47 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:22:14 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:22:14 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:22:43 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:22:43 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:23:08 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:23:08 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:23:33 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:23:33 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:23:58 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:23:58 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:24:25 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:24:25 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:24:50 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:24:50 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:25:15 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:25:15 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:25:40 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:25:40 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:26:05 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:26:05 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:26:30 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:26:30 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:26:55 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:26:55 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:27:20 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:27:20 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:27:50 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:27:50 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:28:16 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:28:17 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:28:44 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:28:44 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:29:13 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:29:13 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:29:43 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:29:43 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:30:08 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:30:08 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:30:38 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:30:38 --- quit: ncv (Excess Flood) 10:31:03 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 10:33:07 ncv: for some reason you keep quitting and joining the channel 10:36:18 yes... this is the internet quality of my ISP :( I better get out, bye 10:36:44 :( 10:36:47 see ya 10:36:51 --- quit: ncv (Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090520, built on: 2010/07/07 01:16:10 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/) 10:43:07 * crc is going to try to get some programming done today. I'll be home all weekend (except for a couple of errands I need to run) to keep an eye on my wife, who is recovering after a car accident yesterday :( 10:43:59 hope she's ok! 10:44:21 she'll be ok, though's she's pretty painful 10:54:53 :( 11:24:44 I'll be leaving for an hour or more to get her some painkillers shortly. 11:25:47 ok. hope she feels better soon. 13:46:07 home again 13:49:46 --- join: foucist (~foucist@ps14150.dreamhost.com) joined #retro 13:49:46 --- mode: ChanServ set +v foucist 13:49:50 crc: how's your BNF 13:50:42 I have no BNF 13:52:41 I've not used BNF for anything serious 13:56:17 crc: i meant how's yoru understanding of BNF etc 13:56:36 would you know how to represent an ai player's actions in a BNF 13:56:46 trying to get a handle on BNF 13:56:54 no :( 13:57:10 me either 13:57:21 i'm interested in doing a bot for http://ai-contest.com/ 13:57:26 well gonna do it in ruby 13:57:32 only 7 days left to submit one 14:10:22 got bored with that 14:10:52 there's however a fast version of that very game 14:11:22 http://www.benzedrine.cx/planetwars/ 14:11:44 which helps a lot 14:16:02 thanks 14:16:45 oPless: what lang did you code in 14:20:57 C#, but it was more of a half assed Genetic Algorithm 14:21:51 anyhow, off to the gfs … we've both had a rubbish day. Though not as bad a crc+family :( 14:22:33 * oPless doesn't know but I'm the guy who ported the java retroforth to C# ;) 14:22:48 doesn't know if you know* 14:22:51 * oPless sighs 14:22:56 * crc thanks opless for this 14:23:05 * oPless hugs crc 14:23:19 oPless: i'm very intersted in GAs/EAs esp to apply to this challenge 14:23:20 I use the C# implementation most days at work for testing things 14:23:29 hope your missus recovers soon dude 14:24:00 thanks 14:24:20 oPless: right now i'm barking up the "Grammatical Evolution" tree and trying to figure out if i can use BNF to encapsulate various strategies the bot could use, and thus generate poential combos of strategies by EA 14:24:37 after looking at pushGP, I was thinking about using retroforth to faff with my GP stuff again 14:24:49 what's pushGP? 14:25:06 oh push is ap rogramming lang? 14:25:14 would you implement GP in forth? 14:25:21 it's a forth-ish stack machine used for genetic progrmming, google it ;) 14:25:30 cool 14:26:55 oPless: how was your experience with GA for your aichallenge, did it beat any bots, were you able to evolve it much? 14:28:34 well my rankings should be up there, search of opless on the ai-challenge leaderboard (but I'm not sure if that one was GA) but the benzidrene one deffo is 14:28:39 anyhow, I'm offski 14:28:41 tara 14:29:06 --- quit: oPless (Remote host closed the connection) 14:30:04 laters 17:15:39 --- join: roarde (~roarde@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined #retro 17:18:57 it's hard to get motivated today :( 17:19:23 crc: watcha need motivation for? 17:19:25 to do anything, or dev in particular? 17:19:50 foucist: working on documentation 17:19:54 take a day off, dammit :) 17:20:38 roarde: I did; last night, and most of today. granted, there was an emergency that necessitated it, but it was still a break from coding/documenting 17:20:39 I'm sure I want the docs as much as anyone, but let it slide today. 17:20:53 crc: figure out how to trick all retroforth users to write the documentation instead? ;) 17:21:09 foucist: it's already working, just slowly 17:35:05 the stable-wip tarball now has the latest bugfixes (backported from the repo), a couple of renamings (with the original names provided as aliases to ensure compatibilty), and a copy of the documentation, with some corrections to make it work with the 10.7.4 snapshot. 19:45:48 --- join: cwo_pengen_Gtuan (~TOnDiieuE@cache.aragon.es) joined #retro 19:45:49 --- part: cwo_pengen_Gtuan left #retro 22:05:27 --- quit: roarde (Quit: Leaving.) 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/10.11.20