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10:38:34 <foucist> crc: how about doing something like tenblock = 10x standard block  or some such?
10:39:02 <foucist> crc: like leave the block size itself alone but add onto that with another unit
10:39:18 <foucist> kiloblock megablock gigablock i dunno
10:39:21 <foucist> proably a deciblock is good
10:39:21 <foucist> :P
10:39:54 <foucist> crc: are you thinking in terms of SSD drives now?
10:39:59 <foucist> regarding the sector sizes?
11:55:21 <crc> I no longer deal directly at the hardware level, so fitting blocks to sectors is no longer necessary
11:55:56 * crc has reordered the glossary.txt in the repo to match the word order in the image; all words are covered
12:30:02 <foucist> crc: what's the current block size?
13:31:19 <crc> 512 characters; 64x8
13:32:09 <crc> I've done 32x16x2 in the past, as well as 64x16
13:46:25 <crc> I might do an 80x20 block editor
13:48:53 <crc> that would mesh with the stuff from autopsy, so I may be able to factor out some of the ui words
13:56:29 <foucist> crc: maybe 80x25.6 (i.e. the last line would only be allowed to be 48 chars long..  that would make it a nice 2048 chars :P
13:56:58 <foucist> 80x25/26 is pretty standard too for some coders
13:57:23 <foucist> altho personally i like to be at around 110 wide or so
14:00:06 <foucist> crc: probably be pretty easy to have the cursor stop at 2048th char for the built in editor?  altho i guess using external editors could mess sthings up..  no good heh
14:12:07 <crc> 80x20 gives me a couple of rows for status information, which is useful
14:12:33 <crc> no real reason to be tied to multiples of sector sizes now :)
14:18:23 <foucist> why x20 in particular?
14:18:26 <foucist> you don't like x25 ?
14:18:33 <foucist> or x24 i guess
15:41:58 <crc> again, a couple of lines for status/help text
17:15:20 <crc> perhaps allow user-selectable block size?
18:10:32 <erider> hi guys
18:11:16 <docl> hi erider 
18:11:43 <erider> hey docl did you pick a language yet
18:12:14 <docl> nope
18:13:58 <erider> docl: still on the fence huh? :) well that is understandable, there are a lot of really good languages out there the would be neat to use for you project 
18:14:13 <erider> s/you/your
18:14:47 <docl> yeah. also I got distracted.
18:17:25 <erider> docl: yeah I can understand that, life seems to be busier than before 
18:25:56 <foucist> well
18:26:07 <foucist> strongly thinking about getting the 13" macbook air
18:26:23 <foucist> i spent a good 6 hours debating it all lol
18:26:38 <foucist> researching/debating in my head etc
18:26:47 <foucist> $1400 though :(
18:27:18 <foucist> i could get the $1000 macbook, which would be awesome, but the extra value of the SSD, screen quality, and portability..  
18:27:34 <foucist> currently have a 3 year old macbook
18:27:44 <foucist> will sell it for probably $550-600
18:29:03 <foucist> higher resolution on the air, might be significant too
18:29:11 <foucist> i'm torn man.. torn
18:46:34 <crc> ok, http://gist.github.com/654790 is a modal editor with 80x20 blocks
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19:33:32 <foucist> crc: didn't you read the book i got ya?! death to modal! :P
19:34:17 <crc> foucist: I've read the book. This is (mostly) a port of older code; not a humane interface :)
19:34:19 <roarde> just remember to press esc before the burial
19:41:11 <crc> foucist: even modal, it's still a lot easier to use than the line-based editor that predates it :)
19:46:38 <foucist> yeah i was teasing :P
19:46:52 <foucist> sadly i use vim
19:47:07 <foucist> even tho vim is a horrid interface to learn
19:47:25 <foucist> it took years to really stop making modal errors all the time, and it still happens a bit
19:47:29 <roarde> I'm  thinking about porting nvi/ex
19:47:50 <roarde> I take it joe doesn't suit you, crc.
19:47:57 <foucist> roarde: how about porting ms-dos's EDIT.COM ?
19:48:10 <foucist> bright blue color, nice menu
19:48:13 <crc> roarde: still playing with it; switching editors is hard 
19:48:19 <roarde> vde would be a much better idea
19:48:29 * roarde nods at crc. yep.
19:49:03 <foucist> crc: ever try textmate?
19:49:45 <crc> foucist: no
19:50:34 <foucist> crc: it was one of the big reasons for my getting a macbook, but i never switched to it because it required the mouse too much at the time
19:50:38 <foucist> not keyboard driven enough for me
19:50:42 <foucist> probably better now
19:51:15 <roarde> The very first visit to a restaurant that I was old enough to remember, the waitress accidentally wopped me with a menu, and I wouldn't stop crying. Since, I still cry or at least sniffle when I see a menu.
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