00:00:00 --- log: started retro/10.10.19 07:51:54 --- join: docl (~luke@97-120-247-247.ptld.qwest.net) joined #retro 08:27:41 --- quit: Quartus () 12:39:29 foucist: since you're a marketer and all, any ideas what crc should do to increase donations on retro? :) 13:15:45 docl: stream porn 13:18:07 yiyus: too obvious :P 13:18:19 * crc won't do that 13:19:18 yeah let's keep it clean and cerebral 13:20:14 maybe a banner that shows off the cool parts of retro 13:20:29 paypal would help too 13:23:09 point. is there a paypal link somewhere? I don't see one on the front page. 13:23:35 ok, it's on the fossil page 13:23:58 WePay 13:28:40 hmm. just need more people going to rx-core.org. 13:30:54 I can't do paypal 13:32:41 docl: the retroforth.org page is due for a change soon 13:36:12 ok, I've donated $1 and shared the news on twitter and facebook 13:36:27 (since I'm broke) 13:38:11 thanks. I understand about being broke; I'm often tight/close to broke these days. 13:38:33 * docl hates being so close 13:38:37 (this will hopefully be a bit better soon, since I'm getting a raise later this month) 13:39:51 donating with wepay was easy. :) 13:51:29 * crc is heading home, will return in a 1-2 hours 15:24:32 * foucist enjoys being close to broke.. but it's a bad habit 15:25:18 enjoy? well if you enjoy getting teeth extracted and the like, maybe :p 15:25:44 well to be more precise, i enjoy being extremely tight with my money AND i enjoy not working 15:25:49 ahh 15:25:56 well that I can relate to 15:25:59 resulting me being without income for long periods of time :P 15:26:15 in fact i used to work for a new job for about 3-6 months and then quit 15:26:20 and i pretty much did that once a year or whatever 15:26:28 and lived off the proceeds for the rest of the year.. 15:28:46 docl: about crc getting funding, perhaps it would be more ideal for him to setup something on a site like kickstarrter or similar, maybe figure out how to do a "summer of code" type of thing w/ sufficient funding 15:28:57 perhaps offer to code some sort of forth-based app that would be in high demand 15:29:04 a killer app for retro 15:30:09 i would love to support crc in coding something that i would personally find useful since i think he's a fast/excellent programmer 15:30:55 like perhaps something related to evolutionary computation, or a rubyish version of retro, or other things 15:31:22 so maybe other ppl would be interested in seeing certain things getting coded 15:31:26 and would donate money as well etc 15:31:53 i can definitely help out marketing wise 15:31:55 somehow 15:32:00 to raise funds 15:34:34 docl: you think you'd ever want to do a ycombinator startup? 15:34:39 move to SF for 4 months etc 15:35:03 I'd love to. 15:35:34 docl: ok, well the deadline is today 15:35:36 for the winter steram 15:35:41 let's write up an application! ;) 15:35:41 heh 15:37:10 * docl wonders what that entails 15:39:43 mostly a bunch of boring qualifiers, demonstrating evidence of hackerness and having a good cofounder and an idea that doesn't suck 16:05:45 kickstarter.com or pledgie.com good ways to raise money 17:34:57 home at last. I had to get a new keyboard :( 17:36:13 crc: ergonomic one i hope 17:36:15 :P 17:36:50 for the carpal 17:38:21 no; just a cheap one for now 17:38:52 I had a Microsoft Natural Egonomic Keyboard 4000 for the last few years; but can't afford to replace it yet :( 17:39:51 crc: http://cgi.ebay.com/MICROSOFT-USB-PS-2-NATURAL-PRO-KEYBOARD-ERGONOMIC-2-USB-/250712900119?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3a5fa74217 17:40:12 $25 bucks buy it now, plus a few bucks shipping i guess 17:40:36 that's basically what i have 17:40:48 it's better than the newer natural keyboards 17:40:56 2 usb ports instead of one 17:40:58 sturdier 17:41:24 i bought mine from ebay 3 years ago 17:41:31 and it was already slightly used 17:41:46 I can't use paypal, so ebay is out 17:42:05 how about CC 17:43:31 I used my NEK4000 for about 4 years; it's time to replace it anyway :) 17:43:39 :P 17:44:09 hmm 17:44:19 the nek4000 might be slightly more portable 17:44:38 my natural pro keyboard is pretty darn bulky 17:44:42 oh wait 17:44:50 nek4000 doesn't have a curve in it? 17:45:18 it has a curve 17:45:44 looks like my natural pro keyboard has a much more prominent curve 17:46:04 maybe i could use a nek4000 for a more portable travel kb heh 17:46:42 the nek4000 is the best keyboard I've used since switching away from a laptop 17:47:48 granted; I never used any of the earlier microsoft natural keyboards 17:48:05 you have a desktop now? 17:48:16 or just prop up the laptop ? 17:48:37 i've been using a laptop for a year now w/o using the ms natural keyboard :( 17:48:48 mostly cuz i was abraod w/o the keyboard.. 17:48:54 I use a mac mini now 17:50:59 cool 17:51:04 yeah macbook here 17:51:28 mac for the desktop; linux on the servers, and generally a netbsd install in a vmware image for the occasional use 18:07:06 --- join: erider (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/erider) joined #retro 20:27:00 --- log: started retro/10.10.19 20:27:00 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #retro 20:27:00 --- topic: 'Retro Forth | Logs @ http://bit.ly/ayTmLI | Release 10.7.2 @ http://bit.ly/acN4nc | Fossil Repo @ http://rx-core.org | Corpse Blog @ http://rx-core.org/dev/corpse | Forums @ http://forthcommunity.com | Donations @ http://bit.ly/ccQAU8 | http://retroforth.org' 20:27:00 --- topic: set by crc!~quassel@li125-93.members.linode.com on [Tue Oct 12 20:54:32 2010] 20:27:00 --- names: list (clog @crc erider docl yiyus_ yiyus +foucist probonono SimonRC @ChanServ) 20:57:49 --- join: erider_ (~chatzilla@pool-108-3-149-46.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined #retro 20:59:10 --- quit: erider (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20:59:45 --- join: erider (~chatzilla@pool-108-3-149-46.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined #retro 21:02:28 --- quit: erider_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/10.10.19