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09:17:34 <docl> reading http://sixrevisions.com/web-development/how-to-create-a-blog-from-scratch-using-ruby-on-rails/
09:18:29 <docl> I think once I get a handle on MVC stuff it'll be easier to understand how Kepler works
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11:29:54 <crcx> I've started work on cgi-related stuff for retro
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17:43:57 <erider> hello
17:44:01 <crc> hi erider 
17:44:13 <erider> crc whats new 
17:44:50 <crc> I started doing some work on cgi and a replacement for rxweb, with a goal of actually writing a small app of some kind
17:45:39 <erider> small app? 
17:45:44 <erider> how small is small 
17:45:52 <crc> probably a pastebin
17:46:37 <erider> pastebin app hmm but I thought you had a pastebin on retro 
17:46:49 <crc> not one written in retro :)
17:47:09 <crc> the current pastebin is php+mysql
17:47:35 <erider> hmm what is wrong with that :) 
17:48:02 <crc> I like to use my own tools when possible
17:48:07 <crc> and I dislike mysql
17:48:59 <erider> dbases are necessary evil :) 
17:49:26 <crc> all of my recent db work has been with sqlite
17:50:22 <erider> dbases are needed, have you made a interface for retro into a dbase?
17:50:48 <crc> yes, rxsql (http://rx-core.org/dev/rxsql.fossil)
17:51:28 <crc> http://rx-core.org/dev/rxsql.fossil/wiki?name=documentation
17:51:44 <crc> pretty barebones, but functional and works ok on linux and osx
17:52:43 <erider> crc what is the performance like? 
17:53:08 <crc> I've not done any tests for that. performance is not my priority.
17:53:39 <erider> yeah I was just worrying 
17:53:49 <crc> it's definitely *not* scalable, but works for my small projects
17:54:02 <erider> I understand that 
17:54:18 <erider> I am sure you want to keep it small too 
17:54:54 <erider> I wish you matured toka /me likes the syntax more 
17:55:33 <erider> not many APIs but that is cool 
17:56:11 <erider> that is most of what you need hmm I would want and add, delete 
17:57:12 <crc> add, delete are queries
17:57:36 <erider> ah ok 
17:58:00 <crc> "delete from table ...." query
17:58:41 <erider> ah ok I wasn't sure how to use the api 
17:58:46 <crc> plus, since it's just a simple tcp/ip wrapper, it should be usable with things other than retro
17:59:47 <erider> do you need extern in the header files 
18:00:28 <crc> no
18:01:11 <erider> ok thanks 
18:01:35 <erider> C is such an interesting language hard as hell 
18:02:07 <erider> you have to implement all most everything by hand 
18:03:55 <erider> crc have you seen that book C Interfaces and Implementations
18:04:00 <crc> not really. there are plenty of libraries for c; not so many for forth varients
18:04:45 <crc> the only book I've used with C is "The C Programming Language" (K&R), second edition
18:04:49 <erider> crc I have been running into dependency issues 
18:06:14 <crc> C won't help with dependencies; you're expected to handle them on your own
18:06:23 <erider> crc http://sites.google.com/site/cinterfacesimplementations/home
18:20:55 <erider> crc looks like everyone is moving toward web apps one way or another 
18:21:57 <crc> web apps are nice, because you can evolve them continually, and get easy feedback from users
18:22:22 <crc> plus, with modern browsers, you're not tied too closely to a specific client os
18:23:13 <erider> yeah that is true 
18:51:12 <foucist> crc: have you looked at any of the nosql stuff?
18:51:35 <foucist> might be an alternative to sqlite for ya
18:51:44 <foucist> main problem with sqlite is that it can't handle high loads..
18:52:03 <crc> I don't have any applications with loads greater than sqlite can handle
18:52:23 <foucist> crc: by loads i mean visitors
18:52:41 <crc> foucist: I have nothing with significant amounts of traffic
18:52:47 <foucist> yeah
18:53:45 <crc> a couple of email based things, and some small apps we use at work. nothing fancy, and the heaviest usages are maybe 50 requests per minute
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